Yeah, about that federal money to save teachers from being fired....

[glenn1]

So basically the gnashing of teeth and rending of garment over having to fire teachers is a sham. The states got their bailoutbucks and are socking it away. Of course, when businesses do the same, politicians blame them for doing so instead of hiring people. Just one more proof that this isn't about teachers getting fired, it's solely about cutting services the citizens actually value instead of the waste in order to justify the tax increases the politicians and bureaucratic complex want.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/18/business/economy/18teachers.html?_r=1&hp

<snip>
As schools handed out pink slips to teachers this spring, states made a beeline to Washington to plead for money for their ravaged education budgets. But now that the federal government has come through with $10 billion, some of the nation’s biggest school districts are balking at using their share of the money to hire teachers right away.

With the economic outlook weakening, they argue that big deficits are looming for the next academic year and that they need to preserve the funds to prevent future layoffs. Los Angeles, for example, is projecting a $280 million budget shortfall next year that could threaten more jobs.

***

Also, take in this beauty from the article:

"The education measure requires states to distribute the money for the current school year, but allows school districts to spend it as late as September 2012."

How very convenient that this is so close to an election....

 

[PeshakJang]

Remember, Obama has created OR saved over a trillion jobs since taking office. Billions of people would be fired if this money wasn't granted. That's as good as creating billions of jobs.

We'll be at negative unemployment in no time. God Bless that man.

 

[bfdd]

lolololololololololololol

 

[Red Dawn]

All I know is that the Medicaid money going to MA is probably going to save my wifes job. She works for a non profit Health Alliance that was promised this money and spent it based on that promise.

The money is better spent on domestic issues than reeking bullshit like Israel, Pakistan, Iraq or Afghanistan.

 

[theeedude]

It' says right in the article:

With the economic outlook weakening, they argue that big deficits are looming for the next academic year and that they need to preserve the funds to prevent future layoffs.

Sham not found.

 

[Hacp]

Don't worry. That 26 billion will create or save 26 thousand jobs! One million per job. Money well spent.

 

[Red Dawn]

Don't worry. That 26 billion will create or save 26 thousand jobs! One million per job. Money well spent.

It might keep your weak ass in school.

 

[rudder]

It' says right in the article:

With the economic outlook weakening, they argue that big deficits are looming for the next academic year and that they need to preserve the funds to prevent future layoffs.

Sham not found.

god forbid they reduce their budget so they do not need to use money that our children will be paying on. It is not free money.

 

[BoberFett]

senseamp, haven't you made yourself look stupid enough for one day?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

senseamp, haven't you made yourself look stupid enough for one day?

He meets that quota every day.

 

[theeedude]

senseamp, haven't you made yourself look stupid enough for one day?

Personal attack with no substance? Must be BoberFett.

 

[glenn1]

It' says right in the article:



Sham not found.

So your logic is that to avoid layoffs they have to avoid spending the money alloted specifically to avoid this from happening? When there's a fire, do you let the house burn down rather than setting off the alarm in order to preserve the "in emergency, break here" glass for a future occasion?

 

[BoberFett]

Personal attack with no substance? Must be BoberFett.

The smell of dog shit emanating from his mouth? Must be senseamp.

In this VERY FORUM liberals blame Republicans and call them obstructionists who aren't hiring simply because they're evil and want to destroy the middle class. Now that school districts are hoarding money, it's the smart move?

Now I'm no fan of Republicans, they fucked us right good under Bush, but if Democrats are truly the only other option, we're done for. You retarded bunch of monkeys couldn't find your asses with both hands and directions.

 

[MotF Bane]

So your logic is that to avoid layoffs they have to avoid spending the money alloted specifically to avoid this from happening? When there's a fire, do you let the house burn down rather than setting off the alarm in order to preserve the "in emergency, break here" glass for a future occasion?

Apparently, yes he does.

 

[Darwin333]

So your logic is that to avoid layoffs they have to avoid spending the money alloted specifically to avoid this from happening? When there's a fire, do you let the house burn down rather than setting off the alarm in order to preserve the "in emergency, break here" glass for a future occasion?

Oh the irony.

Righties bitching because the "free money" wasn't spent fast enough even though it was a good business decision (based completely from the OP, I don't have enough interest to do my own homework on the issue)

Lefties said they needed the money RIGHT NOW to avoid layoffs (good business decisions be damned) but are now defending..... good business decisions.

This is actually comical at this point "You shouldn't borrow/spend the money damnit!!!! oh wait, you didn't spend the money damnit, you guys SUCK!!!!" "We need to borrow/spend the money damnit!!! oh wait, we have a good reason not to spend the borrowed money that we needed back then damnit, you guys SUCK!!!

Seriously?

 

[theeedude]

The smell of dog shit emanating from his mouth? Must be senseamp.

In this VERY FORUM liberals blame Republicans and call them obstructionists who aren't hiring simply because they're evil and want to destroy the middle class. Now that school districts are hoarding money, it's the smart move?

Now I'm no fan of Republicans, they fucked us right good under Bush, but if Democrats are truly the only other option, we're done for. You retarded bunch of monkeys couldn't find your asses with both hands and directions.

So you start with a lame personal attack, then try another lame personal attack plus a lame argument and expect to be taken seriously?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

And while the Republicans and Democrats publicly spar, when they're off the clock, they hit the bars together and laugh at the American public for being dumb enough to think that they are actually different from one another.

 

[theeedude]

So your logic is that to avoid layoffs they have to avoid spending the money alloted specifically to avoid this from happening? When there's a fire, do you let the house burn down rather than setting off the alarm in order to preserve the "in emergency, break here" glass for a future occasion?

They are avoiding layoffs, they are just reluctant to hire more people based on one time federal money. Seems like a smart thing to do.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

So you start with a lame personal attack, then try another lame personal attack plus a lame argument and expect to be taken seriously?

Yeah, I hate when people make lame personal attacks. Like this one, for example:

Cus you gave him AIDS?

Doh!

 

[MotF Bane]

Yeah, I hate when people make lame personal attacks. Like this one, for example:



Doh!

Nice.

 

[Darwin333]

The smell of dog shit emanating from his mouth? Must be senseamp.

In this VERY FORUM liberals blame Republicans and call them obstructionists who aren't hiring simply because they're evil and want to destroy the middle class. Now that school districts are hoarding money, it's the smart move?

Now I'm no fan of Republicans, they fucked us right good under Bush, but if Democrats are truly the only other option, we're done for. You retarded bunch of monkeys couldn't find your asses with both hands and directions.

Bah, they are in it together. Our politics is like a big fuckin season of "American Idol" to keep us focused on dumb shit like this. Funny how the banksters still get to commit fraud, some of which has been recently legalized (but fraud is still fucking fraud and most of the shit they did was the illegal type), under both Republican AND Democrat rule in the last decade isn't it?

Could someone please explain to me how the banksters went from being flat ass bankrupt and needing damn near a trillion dollars cash and untold trillions in US guarantees on the fucked up paper THEY purchased and sold to making record profits in such a short period of time...... and the only thing our elected officials did was pay lip service?

Ya gotta appreciate the strategy though, its brilliant. Here we are arguing about a few billion while we they fuck us out of trillions and for the sole reason of "we want our side to win" we buy the bullshit they are selling.

<Craig should be along shortly with a very long post about why the 6 progressives in Congress will save us all if we could just convince the rest of the country to vote in nothing but progressives. Even if I though he was right, I think Ron Paul has a better shot of becoming president than the progressives gaining a majority in their own party>

 

[theeedude]

Yeah, I hate when people make lame personal attacks. Like this one, for example:
Doh!

That was after YOU derailed that thread by bringing lettuce prices into a healthcare discussion.

 

[Red Dawn]

The smell of dog shit emanating from his mouth? Must be senseamp.

I don't know pudge, all you can do is criticize others without offering any solutions. Not saying your criticisms aren't warranted, but when that's all you have ... you might as well just not bother.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

That was after YOU derailed that thread by bringing lettuce prices into a healthcare discussion.

I didn't derail it, I merely suggested that you should stick to that talking point. :awe:

 

[MotF Bane]

That was after YOU derailed that thread by bringing lettuce prices into a healthcare discussion.

What's this about lettuce prices? How you're happy with illegal immigrants being treated almost as slave labor?