zebano

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Preliminaries
I am 5'10" 190lbs, some muscle, but mainly fat. Slightly high Cholesterol (205) and Blood Pressure (122/81) have convinced me that even if I don't want to look good, long term health means I need to exercise and eat decently....


I have started and stopped a couple of times (my fault), but I just created a spreadsheet and having that daily list of chores on the fridge include "Running for 30 min" really seems to help.

The Actual Question...
I run four days a week (MTWF) for half an hour. Most days I just try and push myself a little, no HIT, but after loosening up I try and up the tempo a little (I'm shooting for 7 min miles for 5 miles - arbitrary goal). Afterwords I strech, do 50 push ups and 100 sit ups. As I start running faster, I am regularily throwing up when I finish my run. In high school when I ran Cross Country (5k) this would always happen at the end of a race as I entered the chute. Is this a something I need to be concerned about? Should I back the tempo down until I am in better shape, or should I just go see a doctor.


Cliffs
I started running. I throw up at the end of my runs about 2 of my 4 weekly runs.
 

KB

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It could be something severe and of course your doctor can tell you better than AT can. I haven't ever thrown up from running, but it does happen to occasionally to even the most fit runners.

Do you eat alot before running? Don't.
Do you drink plenty of water 1 hour before running? DO
Are you pushing yourself too hard? Don't, ease into it.
 

blackdogdeek

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i'm no doctor but i'm pretty sure vomiting is one of those bodily warning signs that indicate you are doing something you shouldn't.

i'd slow the pace down and build it more gradually. if you're looking to lose weight, get a heart rate monitor and keep your heart rate in the fat-burning zone (you'll have to google what that percentage of your max is).
 

dxkj

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I ran a ton as a kid, only threw up once after doing like 15 or 20 suicides in a row.
 

zebano

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Originally posted by: KB
It could be something severe and of course your doctor can tell you better than AT can. I haven't ever thrown up from running, but it does happen to occasionally to even the most fit runners.

Do you eat alot before running? Don't.
Do you drink plenty of water 1 hour before running? DO
Are you pushing yourself too hard? Don't, ease into it.

Probably pushing too hard. I get up in the morning drink half a glass of water, eat half a banana and run. Guess I may have to chat with the doctor, bleh.
 

BobDaMenkey

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You're probably dehyrated if that's all you drink for water in a day. When I was into biking if I didn't drink enough water before I set out I'd puke my guts out about halfway through my 10 mile ride.
 

zebano

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Originally posted by: BobDaMenkey
You're probably dehyrated if that's all you drink for water in a day. When I was into biking if I didn't drink enough water before I set out I'd puke my guts out about halfway through my 10 mile ride.

Thats not all I drink in a day, thats what I drink right before I run (so I amy be dehydrated at that point). During my work day, I have a 16oz cup which I fill with water and empty about 4 times.
 

brandonb

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Zebano, sounds like you are overworking yourself. Reduce activity. Its consistancy thats important not the amount of activity.

Let me explain why,

I've lost 30 pounds in the last 4 months... Here's the secret to my success which I will explain why it works below.

1) Eliminate High Fructose Corn Syrup. Soda, Juice, etc.
2) Eliminate Trans Fats. Certain Chips, Fried Food from Fast Food joints.
3) Exercise lightly. This means, buy some dumbbells (adjustable, don't start heavy off the bat, start light and when it stops feeling like a challenge, add more weight) do a few different routines just a few times a week. Then do jumping jacks or run in place until you get tired (then stop dont force yourself to continue)...
4) Avoid snacking during the day. Eat at most 3 times per day. Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner.

It will take about a month or two before things start to kick in. There is a hormone in the body called Leptin which regulates metabolism. Typically your body listens to Leptin. It gets released to let you know when you are full (after you eat)... If you snack all the time, and use no energy, Leptin is always in your bloodstream telling your body that its full. But after awhile, your body gets used to that level of Leptin, and it ends up "the boy who cried wolf." So your body stops listening to Leptin. So now you feel hungry and low energy all the time, because the low energy is a way your body tells you to eat more food (but you aren't lacking food) Because you are low energy, you stop exercising, and you start eating more because you are low energy and snack. This ruins your metabolism. It makes Leptin "resistance" worse... This is why you always see heavy people snacking all the time, and when they do that, they are making it harder on themselves.

So my diet isn't to really exercise, or stop eating... Just doing 1 of those things I list above will help, but most important is #4... If you do that you get Leptin back into check and you will lose your weight even if you do nothing else. Doing #3 helps Leptin as you start to burn energy in your blood stream and when you exercise your Leptin will decrease as your body won't be "full" all the time, and your body will start to get over the "boy who cried wolf" syndrome. Doing #2 is just smart, because trans fat stick in your muscles and make #3 very hard to do... Doing #1 is just smart, because it crystalizes the nerve endings and making you feel run down all the time.

 

jman19

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Eh, I'd often get to point where I felt like I wanted to puke when I played hockey as a teenager. I think Arnold once said he would throw up all the time when he worked out :p
 

zebano

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Originally posted by: brandonb
Zebano, sounds like you are overworking yourself. Reduce activity. Its consistancy thats important not the amount of activity.

Let me explain why,

I've lost 30 pounds in the last 4 months... Here's the secret to my success which I will explain why it works below.

1) Eliminate High Fructose Corn Syrup. Soda, Juice, etc.
2) Eliminate Trans Fats. Certain Chips, Fried Food from Fast Food joints.
3) Exercise lightly. This means, buy some dumbbells (adjustable, don't start heavy off the bat, start light and when it stops feeling like a challenge, add more weight) do a few different routines just a few times a week. Then do jumping jacks or run in place until you get tired (then stop dont force yourself to continue)...
4) Avoid snacking during the day. Eat at most 3 times per day. Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner.

It will take about a month or two before things start to kick in. There is a hormone in the body called Leptin which regulates metabolism. Typically your body listens to Leptin. It gets released to let you know when you are full (after you eat)... If you snack all the time, and use no energy, Leptin is always in your bloodstream telling your body that its full. But after awhile, your body gets used to that level of Leptin, and it ends up "the boy who cried wolf." So your body stops listening to Leptin. So now you feel hungry and low energy all the time, because the low energy is a way your body tells you to eat more food (but you aren't lacking food) Because you are low energy, you stop exercising, and you start eating more because you are low energy and snack. This ruins your metabolism. It makes Leptin "resistance" worse... This is why you always see heavy people snacking all the time, and when they do that, they are making it harder on themselves.

So my diet isn't to really exercise, or stop eating... Just doing 1 of those things I list above will help, but most important is #4... If you do that you get Leptin back into check and you will lose your weight even if you do nothing else. Doing #3 helps Leptin as you start to burn energy in your blood stream and when you exercise your Leptin will decrease as your body won't be "full" all the time, and your body will start to get over the "boy who cried wolf" syndrome. Doing #2 is just smart, because trans fat stick in your muscles and make #3 very hard to do... Doing #1 is just smart, because it crystalizes the nerve endings and making you feel run down all the time.


Thanks for the info. I've never heard of Leptin before. I will have to read more about that.

#1 - This really works. About 1.5 years ago, I was 230 lbs, and by doing only this, I dropped to my current weight of 190. I actually got to 175 when I worked on my diet and bicycle commuting, but I stopped both of those and the weight came back. I recently started back in on the pop again. I was craving it one day and gave in, the next thing I knew I was drinking 3 sprites a day at work. I'm going cold turkey because it's easier for me than moderation.

#2 - Thats common sense, I may try to work that in once I am succesful with #1.

#3 - I'm not a fan of weights, and I love the outdoors, even when it's cold. I will probably get my lights working and start bike commuting again. Running is nice because it is sooo effecient.


#4 - Arrrgh snacks are my personal foil. I absoutely love and crave salty foods. I'm trying to take things one at a time and after 3 weeks of success, I figure it's basically a habit. My goal here is to first shift from the terrible stuff (doritos, oreos etc.) to nuts and rasins, and then to limit snacks so that I eat 5x/day. I don't like being hungry between meals, so I eat often, but they are smaller portions.

I personally have one more suggestion that worked for me in my previous weight loss campaign (see above)...
Eat your fruits and veggies before the rest of the meal. If you sit down with grilled chicken and rice (lets be realistic here, a steak). Eat an apple or a couple of carrots first.


Honestly I think I have some good ideas, it's maintaining those habits day after day that is hard for me. Thats why I finally started with the kitchen fridge checklist. It won't work for everyone, but I stay organized by making lists of all my tasks at work, and it seems to be working at home now. Can anyone explain the psychology of why putting that little checkmark in to say I accomplished something is s fulfilling? odd...

 

brandonb

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When Leptin gets back to normal you won't crave snacks. The fact that you want to snack is a good indicator that your Leptin levels are constantly high and your body is ignoring the hormone.