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NuclearNed

NuclearNed

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Last night was my night to work my back and lats.

It doesn't seem to matter what exercise I do, how much weight I lift, or how many sets I do, I can't seem to get to my lats. They are never even slightly sore the next day. I guess I'm seeing progress in that I can lift more now that I could a year and a half ago, but I just like to feel a little worn out the next day.

Is this normal?
 
What excercises are you doing?

And whatever excercise you're doing, pull your shoulders back and stick your chest out when you're pulling the weight towards your chest - that emphasizes the lats without putting too much shoulders/other body parts into it.

Also - different excercises hit different parts of your lats - certain ones affect the V-taper, overall thickness, etc.
 
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
What excercises are you doing?

And whatever excercise you're doing, pull your shoulders back and stick your chest out when you're pulling the weight towards your chest - that emphasizes the lats without putting too much shoulders/other body parts into it.

Also - different excercises hit different parts of your lats - certain ones affect the V-taper, overall thickness, etc.
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I don't know the name of this one, so I'll describe it (its a type of upright row - according to a book I have it generates the most electrical activity in lats of any known exercise):
You stand at a smith machine with the weighted bar at your ankles. You stand with knees bent, body bent at the waist, with the back arched and the chest sticking out. You pull the bar up underhanded to the lower edge of your rib cage, rinse and repeat.

Also, I do lat pulldowns and different varieties of seated rows.


Lately I've really tried to heed your advice and keep my chest out. Also, I've really been concentrating on using my lats instead of my arms to pull the weight.

Still - nothing.
 
first of all, get off the smith machine and use free weights, thats a problem right there 🙂

also there are these things, i don't know what they are called though. you lie down 90 degrees on a weight bench, so that you put your back on it so you make a T shape w/the bench, and your head is slightly hanging over the bench. take a dumbell and put it right up infront of you, kind of like you aer holding it like you are about to benchpress 1 dumbell with both hands. then lower the dumbell over your head, behind your head, and get a good stretch, then kind of "roll" it back over your chest to the orignial position.

if you do that correctly, you can REALLY feel it in your lats. it's the best lat building exercise i've done. I also started doing the hamer strength rows w/the close grip. that is really starting to feel good and I'm going up in weight.

I am not sure of that other exercise i mentioned, so hopeflly someone else knows the name of it or can explain it better. it does wonders for your lats.
 
Originally posted by: purbeast0
first of all, get off the smith machine and use free weights, thats a problem right there 🙂

also there are these things, i don't know what they are called though. you lie down 90 degrees on a weight bench, so that you put your back on it so you make a T shape w/the bench, and your head is slightly hanging over the bench. take a dumbell and put it right up infront of you, kind of like you aer holding it like you are about to benchpress 1 dumbell with both hands. then lower the dumbell over your head, behind your head, and get a good stretch, then kind of "roll" it back over your chest to the orignial position.

if you do that correctly, you can REALLY feel it in your lats. it's the best lat building exercise i've done. I also started doing the hamer strength rows w/the close grip. that is really starting to feel good and I'm going up in weight.

I am not sure of that other exercise i mentioned, so hopeflly someone else knows the name of it or can explain it better. it does wonders for your lats.
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That sounds like a pullover, which I was doing until recently.

 
Soreness is not an indicator of how well you are working out. After a year or so of lifting (not a lot of experience, I know...) I found that certain body parts would feel more sore than others after lifting, but that there was no real correlation between how sore I felt and any gains I was achieving. If you are experiencing muscle growth and able to lift more over time, then you're doing what you set out to achieve.
 
remember on back to accentuate the eccentric contraction, esp on weighted pullups, cable exercies etc.

contract on a two count motion/exhale
eccentric contraction(release) three count

dont worry about them being sore...you are working them.. you just use them in daily activities. YOu should be stretching anyways during your cool down..

want to really show your contast wth the cobra look, work on your serratus anterior muscles

JC
 
deadlift. lots. Stiff legged, bent knee, sumo, dont' really matter. You'll work your legs too, but you won't have to ever say 'my lats aren't sore the next day' ever again.
Also try DB rows and BB rows....T-Bar rows if you have a machine for that,
 
Lats rarely get sore if you workout with any regularity. Why? Because they are worked to some extent with nearly every compound upper body exercice. From seated rows to bench presses, the lats are employed.

Also, if you have a regular routine, soreness should be slight, if not rare. Only newbies get really sore (with the exception of legs).
 
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
deadlift. lots. Stiff legged, bent knee, sumo, dont' really matter. You'll work your legs too, but you won't have to ever say 'my lats aren't sore the next day' ever again.
Also try DB rows and BB rows....T-Bar rows if you have a machine for that,
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Please explain how deadlifts work the lats to any great extent.

Legs, lower back... and possibly shoulders if you do them wrong and shrug on the up end, yes. Lats? How?
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
deadlift. lots. Stiff legged, bent knee, sumo, dont' really matter. You'll work your legs too, but you won't have to ever say 'my lats aren't sore the next day' ever again.
Also try DB rows and BB rows....T-Bar rows if you have a machine for that,
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Please explain how deadlifts work the lats to any great extent.

Legs, lower back... and possibly shoulders if you do them wrong and shrug on the up end, yes. Lats? How?
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Exactly what I was thinking - deadlifts are a lower back and hamstring exercise. If your lats are sore after a deadlift, I'm betting you are going too deep and allowing your back to bend forward under the weight. If so, you are in extreme danger of injuring yourself.
 
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