YATT "No politician..has been treated worse or more unfairly"

[Homerboy]

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

lol, the fox 'news' team is now touting the 'witch hunt' diatribe for drumpfy.
poor, poor persecuted drumpfy. nobody understands or appreciates his genius.

 

[zinfamous]

There's a real argument that Nero was better than he was portrayed as in part because he was actually somewhat populist and pissed off the elites who wound up writing the histories/having them written for them. So better than Trump in at least one significant way.

There was a cool little doc I watched recently on Caligula, that explained much of his supposed insanity in the same way. The famous story of him marching the Roman army to the sea and telling them to "Attack the sea" was actually more practical in reality. IIRC, this was his campaign to invade "Brittany" or the Celts or whatever the British Isles were called at the time. When the reality sunk in that they army didn't have the supplies and means to cross the channel and mount a successful invasion, Caligula would have had to retreat. ...the problem here is that apparently, in Roman law, no commander could order a non-engagement retreat without ordering the sacrifice of half their troops. or something like that--it's super crazy, but well, that's how things worked by then.

By ordering his army to attack the sea, they were officially engaged in battle, and Caligula could then return without the legal requirement to order suicide on half of his men. Then, this could be early Caligula as well, and one of the reasons that he was thoroughly loved by his soldiers and by the people, well before he went legit batshit nutso.

 

[sandorski]

There was a cool little doc I watched recently on Caligula, that explained much of his supposed insanity in the same way. The famous story of him marching the Roman army to the sea and telling them to "Attack the sea" was actually more practical in reality. IIRC, this was his campaign to invade "Brittany" or the Celts or whatever the British Isles were called at the time. When the reality sunk in that they army didn't have the supplies and means to cross the channel and mount a successful invasion, Caligula would have had to retreat. ...the problem here is that apparently, in Roman law, no commander could order a non-engagement retreat without ordering the sacrifice of half their troops. or something like that--it's super crazy, but well, that's how things worked by then.

By ordering his army to attack the sea, they were officially engaged in battle, and Caligula could then return without the legal requirement to order suicide on half of his men. Then, this could be early Caligula as well, and one of the reasons that he was thoroughly loved by his soldiers and by the people, well before he went legit batshit nutso.

Sounds like a 3 Strikes law. No Retreat unless half your men are killed. So whenever you want to retreat, the accountant has to determine how many need to die before you can make the call.

 

[hal2kilo]

Yep. It's a fact. It's been 8 yrs of questioning his citizenship status and whether or not he's a terrorist plant. Right on top of reality as usual Donny.

Plus having a declaration from the opposition party at the start that stated that it would not work with him at all. Never done in the history of presidents.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Sounds like a 3 Strikes law. No Retreat unless half your men are killed. So whenever you want to retreat, the accountant has to determine how many need to die before you can make the call.

Risk management screwing up people's lives since Roman times.

 

[IronWing]

Plus having a declaration from the opposition party at the start that stated that it would not work with him at all. Never done in the history of presidents.

There was that secession from the Union thing. Pretty much the same idea, conservatives pissed that they weren't in power anymore stomped off in a huff.

 

[Victorian Gray]

This guy might have had it just a wee bit worse

 

[Glaring_Mistake]

There was a cool little doc I watched recently on Caligula, that explained much of his supposed insanity in the same way. The famous story of him marching the Roman army to the sea and telling them to "Attack the sea" was actually more practical in reality. IIRC, this was his campaign to invade "Brittany" or the Celts or whatever the British Isles were called at the time. When the reality sunk in that they army didn't have the supplies and means to cross the channel and mount a successful invasion, Caligula would have had to retreat. ...the problem here is that apparently, in Roman law, no commander could order a non-engagement retreat without ordering the sacrifice of half their troops. or something like that--it's super crazy, but well, that's how things worked by then.

By ordering his army to attack the sea, they were officially engaged in battle, and Caligula could then return without the legal requirement to order suicide on half of his men. Then, this could be early Caligula as well, and one of the reasons that he was thoroughly loved by his soldiers and by the people, well before he went legit batshit nutso.

Not sure if that was the case here but might it have been decimation?
That would mean that 10% of the troops would have been executed and not 50%.
At least I feel it more logical to not want to lose that many troops if they were expected to fight again soon after that but then I have never written any ancient Roman laws so it might have made perfect sense.

 

[DarthKyrie]

This guy might have had it just a wee bit worse

Hey, that's my family, and they deserved it.

 

[jackstar7]

George W Bush is sleeping better these days, but still anxious to be forgotten.

Called it: https://twitter.com/thehill/status/865398135002087425