YAStarTrekT: What's the point of having the transporter room/pad?

[her209]

Its obvious that its not needed since the operator can transport people from one location to another where there is no pad. A great example is when someone gets injured and needs to be transported directly to sick bay.

Which brings up another question. When you get transported, do you end up in the previous position/posture or can you be "reconstructed" in a different position/posture, e.g. you were standing up and you get reconstructed by the transporter to be in a lying position?

 

[child of wonder]

Good question. I've wondered this myself.

Also, why even use turbolifts? Get showered, eat, ready for duty, beam directly to the bridge.

 

[Cattlegod]

IIRC they exist to hold a stronger signal to overcome interference if you transport directly to/from the pad.

 

[pmv]

Good question. I've wondered this myself.

Also, why even use turbolifts? Get showered, eat, ready for duty, beam directly to the bridge.

Come to that, why isn't everyone in the ST universe clinically obese?

Look at how people now drive everywhere they possibly can. If they invented a transporter, people would beam everywhere, including from the couch to the kitchen or the bathroom. The Enterprise would be crewed by a team of 300lb gelatanous blobs, barely able to support their own weight.

 

[Fritzo]

Come to that, why isn't everyone in the ST universe clinically obese?

Look at how people now drive everywhere they possibly can. If they invented a transporter, people would beam everywhere, including from the couch to the kitchen or the bathroom. The Enterprise would be crewed by a team of 300lb gelatanous blobs, barely able to support their own weight.

I think they stopped using trans-fats.

 

[zerocool84]

I think they stopped using trans-fats.

After the Franchise Wars in which Taco Bell won

 

[child of wonder]

Come to that, why isn't everyone in the ST universe clinically obese?

Look at how people now drive everywhere they possibly can. If they invented a transporter, people would beam everywhere, including from the couch to the kitchen or the bathroom. The Enterprise would be crewed by a team of 300lb gelatanous blobs, barely able to support their own weight.

Nah... you just don't materialize the fat every time you beam! Everyone would be 1% body fat!

 

[SlitheryDee]

I always assumed that it was more efficient to transport from the pad.

I think they are able to remove and/or deactivate weapons mid-transport. The transporters have also been used to alter genetics mid-transport. I would think it would be trivial and sometimes ncessary to alter a person's body positioning to avoid injury upon materializing given what the transporter has been shown to be capable of.

 

[ForumMaster]

it supposedly takes double the energy to do a "site-to-site" transport then a transporter room to site transport.

so they don't do it all the time in order to conserve energy.

 

[amdhunter]

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

As someone else said, it's probably more efficient/can get better signal/easier to compute when done pad->pad or pad->random location.

The whole thing seems silly to me. What's stopping them from just making a bunch of the same person? Or if someone dies just recreate a new one from when they were healthy.

 

[waggy]

though if you say break a leg/arm back whatever. couldnt the beam just put you back how you were?

 

[Train]

I always asumed it took more power to beam somewhere other than the pad.

And probably why they dont just beam all over the ship... converting a person from matter to energy and back again wirelessly probably takes a few gigawatts. Don't need to be doing that a few thousand times per day all over the ship.

 

[Jeff7]

Another plot hole issue: The transporter can beam people through matter, right through the hull of a starship. That would seem to make it extremely useful as a weapon. Pierce a hole in an enemy ship's shields and beam out the bridge crew and never rematerialize them. Or beam out a chunk of their shield generator. A transporter could severely cripple another ship. Even if there's no "lock" on a target - ok, fine. Just fire it up and start beaming out random swaths of whatever you can get.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I always asumed it took more power to beam somewhere other than the pad.

And probably why they dont just beam all over the ship... converting a person from matter to energy and back again wirelessly probably takes a few gigawatts. Don't need to be doing that a few thousand times per day all over the ship.

You've got a power source capable of Warp 10 while maintaining shields, weapons, life support, holodecks, replicators, computers, communications, artificial gravity and sexbots (assuming on that last one) and transporting to a the bridge rather than a pad is going to cause a brown-out? Nope, not buying it.

 

[Braznor]

See, Star Trek innocents.

A restoration of a crew member using the transport tech will only recreate the man/woman uptill the time the backup was created. Anything after that will not be recreated.

So any crewmember raised from the dead using the transporter will not be the crew member who died because of the circumstances of the episode.

So a transporter replication is just a snapshot of the past state of the crewmember and not the snapshot of the person who died. Who knows what psychological pressure that particular crewman suffered before he died.

Its a great difference. There will be a great deviation from the person you recreate from the transporter logs from the red shirt person who died on a mission.

 

[her209]

Another plot hole issue: The transporter can beam people through matter, right through the hull of a starship. That would seem to make it extremely useful as a weapon. Pierce a hole in an enemy ship's shields and beam out the bridge crew and never rematerialize them. Or beam out a chunk of their shield generator. A transporter could severely cripple another ship. Even if there's no "lock" on a target - ok, fine. Just fire it up and start beaming out random swaths of whatever you can get.

Yeah, I never understood why it wasn't weaponized.

 

[waggy]

Yeah, I never understood why it wasn't weaponized.

no d oubt. how about you transport a bomb into a ship instead a person?

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Another plot hole issue: The transporter can beam people through matter, right through the hull of a starship. That would seem to make it extremely useful as a weapon. Pierce a hole in an enemy ship's shields and beam out the bridge crew and never rematerialize them. Or beam out a chunk of their shield generator. A transporter could severely cripple another ship. Even if there's no "lock" on a target - ok, fine. Just fire it up and start beaming out random swaths of whatever you can get.

I could imagine key components would be hardened against being transported, but yea that still leaves people which since they semi-regularly do teleportations to random parts of ships are clearly not protected.

 

[her209]

I always assumed that it was more efficient to transport from the pad.

I think they are able to remove and/or deactivate weapons mid-transport. The transporters have also been used to alter genetics mid-transport. I would think it would be trivial and sometimes ncessary to alter a person's body positioning to avoid injury upon materializing given what the transporter has been shown to be capable of.

I was thinking more in line with pulling some office pranks with the transported. For example, rematerializing them in awkward positions/situations.

 

[SlitheryDee]

no d oubt. how about you transport a bomb into a ship instead a person?

They did that in several episodes. Usually the ship's shields will prevent any unauthorized transports, but sometimes they are able to engineer a shield malfunction and transport a photon torpedo or something directly into an enemy ship.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

A site-to-site transport requires buffering through the transporter room. "beam directly to sick-bay" is actual "beam to the transporter room and then, without letting any time go by, re-beam to the sick-bay"

Now, a personal site-to-site transporter... that's future tech that was highly limited in availability.

Come to that, why isn't everyone in the ST universe clinically obese?

Look at how people now drive everywhere they possibly can. If they invented a transporter, people would beam everywhere, including from the couch to the kitchen or the bathroom. The Enterprise would be crewed by a team of 300lb gelatanous blobs, barely able to support their own weight.

Because the replicators adjust the nutritional makeup of the food to maximize your personal health. Troy once got "real" ice-cream because she didn't like how the replicator kept giving her calorically less dense ice-cream.

Another plot hole issue: The transporter can beam people through matter, right through the hull of a starship. That would seem to make it extremely useful as a weapon.

It was used as a weapon on numerous occasions.

But, as is also established often, you can't transport anything through a shield.


Jesus people, I watched these shows when they firs aired. Get with the program and start remembering everything. 'cmon!

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Good question. I've wondered this myself.

Also, why even use turbolifts? Get showered, eat, ready for duty, beam directly to the bridge.

Why have to get showered? Can't they just beam me and get rid of my dingleberries in the process?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Why have to get showered? Can't they just beam me and get rid of my dingleberries in the process?

Again, no.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Again, no.

If they can modify genes mid-transport pretty sure they could get rid of dirt.