YAPT: Anybody here play LIMIT poker?
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I actually find limit poker harder to make money at than no-limit since you can't capitalize on really prime situations as much.
Limit poker = play the cards
No limit = play the people
Be prepared to have people suck out on you pretty regularly. Straights/flushes on the river are common. In early position, I will check raise with a strong hand. In late position, I will raise any bet with a strong hand. If a scare card falls, be ready to drop your hand. Learn pot odds and implied odds, and know how to figure them fast. Just remember, although you may lose some hands, if you play strong hands, and catch a few cards on the boards now and then, you can make money.
No limit = play the people
Be prepared to have people suck out on you pretty regularly. Straights/flushes on the river are common. In early position, I will check raise with a strong hand. In late position, I will raise any bet with a strong hand. If a scare card falls, be ready to drop your hand. Learn pot odds and implied odds, and know how to figure them fast. Just remember, although you may lose some hands, if you play strong hands, and catch a few cards on the boards now and then, you can make money.
http://partypoker.com/ Is by far the biggest, and having the most players is pretty important. They have good deposit bonuses too, put in "PPOKER20" when you sign up for a 20% bonus for example. Then they'll send you reload bonus offers by email.
http://www.paradisepoker.com/ Is also good. I played there for a long time and prefer the format but they've been losing a lot of players to Party Poker, gotta go where the players are.
http://www.paradisepoker.com/ Is also good. I played there for a long time and prefer the format but they've been losing a lot of players to Party Poker, gotta go where the players are.
And yeah, NL at the casinos is no place to play till you get a lot of experience. I worked in a poker room for nearly ten years and the NL games consist mainly of a very small group of regulars taking out the inexperienced (relatively) players.
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Party Poker has plenty of tournaments, but I don't know about play money. They do have play money live games though.
Most of the poker sites have some really cheap real money tourneys, like $1-$5, and the play money ones are going the way of the dinosaurs. They don't like 1000 freeloaders eating up their bandwith.
AIM me if you need information on limit play. I'm not the greatest in the world, but I'm a winning player at .5/1 through 2/4 (I've yet to play 3-6), and would be glad to offer help if I can.
Rob
Rob
But that's what happens in limit poker. I wouldn't call calling down a raiser with a nut flush draw a suckout when you have the odds (and implied odds) to call, which is usually the case, especially when small stakes limit poker often has a few other calling as well.
A suckout would be calling pot sized raises on both the flop and turn and cracking your top pair top kicker w/ a non-nut flush draw (or possibly even the nut flush draw). That?s the beauty of Pot/NL. It enables you to make the card chasers pay a whole lot sooner.
I have no idea what the draw of limit poker is. It's all luck IMO. Yes, there are some strategies, but mostly you're going to win or lose based SOLELY on the cards. There is very little bluffing because you can't make people pay for it.
Where did you get your stats? Pokerstars is one of the largest and most respected as far as being fairly run. Pokerstars has there own tournament within the WPT and has sent the last 2 winners of the WSOP.
Nope. No doubt luck is a huge factor but everybody has the same amount of luck over a long enough time-frame. With regard to limit poker, they say a sensible time frame is 10K hands or so. If you play only premium hands (seeing < 30% of the flops including BB and SB) in low-limit poker, you should be profitable. The sole reason most people lose at this level is b/c they play crap hands. Luck isn't a factor in the long-run.
This is generally true in low-limit but it is not a given. You certainly don't need to bluff to be profitable.
read the newest 2+2 - small stakes hold'em by skansky, malmuth, and miller - accepted as the best SS SL book in most circles--Lee Jones' Winning Low Limit Poker is a good beginner's book, too.
I like limit because it's more about math. Even though upper level NL contains a lot of math when you guess other people's hands and bet just the right amount to make it wrong for them to call, I'd rather stick with SL. Like to grind out my wins
I like limit because it's more about math. Even though upper level NL contains a lot of math when you guess other people's hands and bet just the right amount to make it wrong for them to call, I'd rather stick with SL. Like to grind out my wins
Originally posted by: KnickNut3
read the newest 2+2 - small stakes hold'em by skansky, malmuth, and miller - accepted as the best SS SL book in most circles--Lee Jones' Winning Low Limit Poker is a good beginner's book, too.
I like limit because it's more about math. Even though upper level NL contains a lot of math when you guess other people's hands and bet just the right amount to make it wrong for them to call, I'd rather stick with SL. Like to grind out my wins
if you really like math, play pot limit omaha 8 hi/lo.
Originally posted by: KnickNut3
read the newest 2+2 - small stakes hold'em by skansky, malmuth, and miller - accepted as the best SS SL book in most circles--Lee Jones' Winning Low Limit Poker is a good beginner's book, too.
I like limit because it's more about math. Even though upper level NL contains a lot of math when you guess other people's hands and bet just the right amount to make it wrong for them to call, I'd rather stick with SL. Like to grind out my wins
I'll second Lee Jones' Winning Low Limit Poker book. Great book for those looking to play smaller tables. By choosing smaller tables, you are putting yourself into a different game. Not quite as exciting if you are looking to maximize your winning strategy. Lots of folding waiting to take down a couple pots an hour.
Originally posted by: royaldank
Originally posted by: KnickNut3
read the newest 2+2 - small stakes hold'em by skansky, malmuth, and miller - accepted as the best SS SL book in most circles--Lee Jones' Winning Low Limit Poker is a good beginner's book, too.
I like limit because it's more about math. Even though upper level NL contains a lot of math when you guess other people's hands and bet just the right amount to make it wrong for them to call, I'd rather stick with SL. Like to grind out my wins
I'll second Lee Jones' Winning Low Limit Poker book. Great book for those looking to play smaller tables. By choosing smaller tables, you are putting yourself into a different game. Not quite as exciting if you are looking to maximize your winning strategy. Lots of folding waiting to take down a couple pots an hour.
Actually, in smaller tables (if you mean smaller, in terms of how many people are seated at the table), you should be playing more pots, more aggressively. You can afford to wait more and have better hand selection at larger tables, when the blinds aren't coming around as often, and you've got larger multiway pots more often.
Whoever recommended SSH is right, but I don't want too many people reading that book. It'll kill my winrate.
Rob
I like pokerroom.com. Very easy to pick a table (limit or no-limit) and you don't have to install anything on your computer if you don't want to.
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