YAPOID (yet another promise of Israel's destruction)

[Duwelon]

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S...2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Saw this today, from the supreme leader's own mouth.

Khamenei, who has the final say on all state matters, called Hamas's prime minister in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, a "mujahed", or holy warrior, saying "the Iranian nation will never let you be alone."

Khamenei said Israel "has weakened day by day ... Today, officials of the Zionist regime acknowledge that they are moving towards weakness, destruction and defeat," according to state television.

"Definitely, the world of Islam will see that day and hope the existing generation of the Palestinian people will watch the day Palestine is at the disposal of the Palestinian people, in the hands of the landlords," he said at prayers marking the Islamic Eid al-Fitr holiday that ends the holy month of Ramadan.

Anyone still think it's good for Iran to get nukes, in the name of world peace?

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S...2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Saw this today, from the supreme leader's own mouth.

Khamenei, who has the final say on all state matters, called Hamas's prime minister in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, a "mujahed", or holy warrior, saying "the Iranian nation will never let you be alone."

Khamenei said Israel "has weakened day by day ... Today, officials of the Zionist regime acknowledge that they are moving towards weakness, destruction and defeat," according to state television.

"Definitely, the world of Islam will see that day and hope the existing generation of the Palestinian people will watch the day Palestine is at the disposal of the Palestinian people, in the hands of the landlords," he said at prayers marking the Islamic Eid al-Fitr holiday that ends the holy month of Ramadan.

Anyone still think it's good for Iran to get nukes, in the name of world peace?

Glad I'm not an Israeli.

 

[bamacre]

If sending $3 billion a year to Israel isn't solving the problem, I say let's just make it six.

 

[Lemon law]

Well lets see, Israel's military hegemony has resulted in Israel being to ignore justice and reality for 60 years now. And this has done zero to advance the cause of peace for 60 years.

Now that Hamas is the democratically elected leadership of Gaza, we should ignore democracy? And continue to subsidize Israel so they will never have to go to the negotiating table and get real. And put the interests of 6 million ahead of its neighbors of 200 million? Yes sirree, Israel stole that land fair and square, and subsidize might makes right. Now lets all Palestinians forever eat sand, we cannot possibly allow any fair play for Palestinians. Or to allow the Iranians to develop electrical energy using nuclear reactors.

 

[Atheus]

So why am I supposed to think Ahminajihad speaks for Iran? As in, I assume, the Iranian people as a whole? that was the point of your post, was it not?

The linked article only mentions the man once, saying he agrees with Khamenei - well of course he does, they're both fucking militants.

Originally posted by: Duwelon
Anyone still think it's good for Iran to get nukes, in the name of world peace?

Please show me where anyone ever said that. Please.

/edit: found this:

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has issued a fatwa saying the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons was forbidden under Islam. The fatwa was cited in an official statement by the Iranian government at an August 2005 meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in Vienna.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S...2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Saw this today, from the supreme leader's own mouth.

Khamenei, who has the final say on all state matters, called Hamas's prime minister in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, a "mujahed", or holy warrior, saying "the Iranian nation will never let you be alone."

Khamenei said Israel "has weakened day by day ... Today, officials of the Zionist regime acknowledge that they are moving towards weakness, destruction and defeat," according to state television.

"Definitely, the world of Islam will see that day and hope the existing generation of the Palestinian people will watch the day Palestine is at the disposal of the Palestinian people, in the hands of the landlords," he said at prayers marking the Islamic Eid al-Fitr holiday that ends the holy month of Ramadan.

Anyone still think it's good for Iran to get nukes, in the name of world peace?

So basically Khamenei said that he supports Hamas, which we have always known about. Furthermore Hamas actually gets the majority of its funding from Saudi Arabia, but I digress. Secondly he mentioned how Israel is Iran's enemy, and that they hope Israel is defeated. Not exactly news, and the view shared by quite a few other Middle Eastern Countries. Finally he said he wants Palestine back to the Palestinians, the same view of the majority of Middle Eastern countries.

So pretty much the supreme leader of Iran stated support for policies that the vast majority of the ME also states support for. He didn't say any of the crazy stuff that Ahmadinejad says, etc.

So, what was your point?

 

[Sinsear]

The religion of peace

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Duwelon
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S...2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Saw this today, from the supreme leader's own mouth.

Khamenei, who has the final say on all state matters, called Hamas's prime minister in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, a "mujahed", or holy warrior, saying "the Iranian nation will never let you be alone."

Khamenei said Israel "has weakened day by day ... Today, officials of the Zionist regime acknowledge that they are moving towards weakness, destruction and defeat," according to state television.

"Definitely, the world of Islam will see that day and hope the existing generation of the Palestinian people will watch the day Palestine is at the disposal of the Palestinian people, in the hands of the landlords," he said at prayers marking the Islamic Eid al-Fitr holiday that ends the holy month of Ramadan.

Anyone still think it's good for Iran to get nukes, in the name of world peace?

Glad I'm not an Israeli.

If the Israelis weren't defeated in the Yom Kippur War*, they sure as heck won't be beaten now. In a conventional war, I don't think they're beatable. I sure as heck wouldn't want to try, given their track record.

And yes, nuclear war is not "conventional" per se, but it doesn't make sense to use nukes on what is considered by Muslims to be Holy Ground. Sure, they'd be ridding it of the Jews, but they'd also be rendering it a wasteland for the next few centuries.

* Just to put it into perspective, the Israelis were outnumbered over 2:1 personnel wise, 3:1 in tanks, and 2:1 in airpower and they still won decisively. They know defense.

 

[theflyingpig]

I hope they attack Israel. Then there will be all-out war.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig
I hope they attack Israel. Then there will be all-out war.

Oh Happy Day!!!


Idiot.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Well lets see, Israel's military hegemony has resulted in Israel being to ignore justice and reality for 60 years now. And this has done zero to advance the cause of peace for 60 years.

Now that Hamas is the democratically elected leadership of Gaza, we should ignore democracy? And continue to subsidize Israel so they will never have to go to the negotiating table and get real. And put the interests of 6 million ahead of its neighbors of 200 million? Yes sirree, Israel stole that land fair and square, and subsidize might makes right. Now lets all Palestinians forever eat sand, we cannot possibly allow any fair play for Palestinians. Or to allow the Iranians to develop electrical energy using nuclear reactors.

what fucking universe have you been living in?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Sinsear
The religion of pieces, blown into

fixed

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S...2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Saw this today, from the supreme leader's own mouth.

Khamenei, who has the final say on all state matters, called Hamas's prime minister in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, a "mujahed", or holy warrior, saying "the Iranian nation will never let you be alone."

Khamenei said Israel "has weakened day by day ... Today, officials of the Zionist regime acknowledge that they are moving towards weakness, destruction and defeat," according to state television.

"Definitely, the world of Islam will see that day and hope the existing generation of the Palestinian people will watch the day Palestine is at the disposal of the Palestinian people, in the hands of the landlords," he said at prayers marking the Islamic Eid al-Fitr holiday that ends the holy month of Ramadan.

Anyone still think it's good for Iran to get nukes, in the name of world peace?

Get back to me about 'peace' after Iran overthrows out democracy, installs a tyrant and secret police for 25 years, then encourages a country to invade us for a decade-long war with millions of American casualties. Have their warship shoot down our civilian airliner killing hundreds while off our coast defending the invader for good measure. When we are overthrowing their dictator, we'll hold their embassy hostage to make sure he isn't put back in power for a year and a half then release them. Then we can call it even and talk.

 

[Duwelon]

Originally posted by: XMan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Duwelon
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S...2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Saw this today, from the supreme leader's own mouth.

Khamenei, who has the final say on all state matters, called Hamas's prime minister in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, a "mujahed", or holy warrior, saying "the Iranian nation will never let you be alone."

Khamenei said Israel "has weakened day by day ... Today, officials of the Zionist regime acknowledge that they are moving towards weakness, destruction and defeat," according to state television.

"Definitely, the world of Islam will see that day and hope the existing generation of the Palestinian people will watch the day Palestine is at the disposal of the Palestinian people, in the hands of the landlords," he said at prayers marking the Islamic Eid al-Fitr holiday that ends the holy month of Ramadan.

Anyone still think it's good for Iran to get nukes, in the name of world peace?

Glad I'm not an Israeli.

If the Israelis weren't defeated in the Yom Kippur War*, they sure as heck won't be beaten now. In a conventional war, I don't think they're beatable. I sure as heck wouldn't want to try, given their track record.

And yes, nuclear war is not "conventional" per se, but it doesn't make sense to use nukes on what is considered by Muslims to be Holy Ground. Sure, they'd be ridding it of the Jews, but they'd also be rendering it a wasteland for the next few centuries.

* Just to put it into perspective, the Israelis were outnumbered over 2:1 personnel wise, 3:1 in tanks, and 2:1 in airpower and they still won decisively. They know defense.

I'm not worried about Iran nuking Israel either. The real danger is that unless the US and Europe turn their backs on Israel completely, they risk having a nuke smuggled into their land and set off until nobody is left that wants to defend Israel.

 

[Moonbeam]

Halloween must be coming. The ghouls are out.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig
I hope they attack Israel. Then there will be all-out war.

I smell troll.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Sinsear
The religion of peace

They say that about Christianity too.


edit:

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: theflyingpig
I hope they attack Israel. Then there will be all-out war.

I smell troll.

No more so that the OP's blatant troll really, unless someone can point out an example of anyone here thinking it's good for Iran to get nukes in the name of world peace, much less still thinking that.

 

[jpeyton]

JPost?

AHAHAHAHAHA :laugh:

Pro-Israeli mouthpieces don't count.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Duwelon
I'm not worried about Iran nuking Israel either. The real danger is that unless the US and Europe turn their backs on Israel completely, they risk having a nuke smuggled into their land and set off until nobody is left that wants to defend Israel.

I don't see any reason to go as far as to completely turn our backs on Israel, backing a just peace agreement based on international law would likely be enough to do the trick.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: XMan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Duwelon
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S...2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Saw this today, from the supreme leader's own mouth.

Khamenei, who has the final say on all state matters, called Hamas's prime minister in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, a "mujahed", or holy warrior, saying "the Iranian nation will never let you be alone."

Khamenei said Israel "has weakened day by day ... Today, officials of the Zionist regime acknowledge that they are moving towards weakness, destruction and defeat," according to state television.

"Definitely, the world of Islam will see that day and hope the existing generation of the Palestinian people will watch the day Palestine is at the disposal of the Palestinian people, in the hands of the landlords," he said at prayers marking the Islamic Eid al-Fitr holiday that ends the holy month of Ramadan.

Anyone still think it's good for Iran to get nukes, in the name of world peace?

Glad I'm not an Israeli.

If the Israelis weren't defeated in the Yom Kippur War*, they sure as heck won't be beaten now. In a conventional war, I don't think they're beatable. I sure as heck wouldn't want to try, given their track record.

And yes, nuclear war is not "conventional" per se, but it doesn't make sense to use nukes on what is considered by Muslims to be Holy Ground. Sure, they'd be ridding it of the Jews, but they'd also be rendering it a wasteland for the next few centuries.

* Just to put it into perspective, the Israelis were outnumbered over 2:1 personnel wise, 3:1 in tanks, and 2:1 in airpower and they still won decisively. They know defense.

That's nice. I'm still glad I'm not an Israeli.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Duwelon
I'm not worried about Iran nuking Israel either. The real danger is that unless the US and Europe turn their backs on Israel completely, they risk having a nuke smuggled into their land and set off until nobody is left that wants to defend Israel.

I don't see any reason to go as far as to completely turn our backs on Israel, backing a just peace agreement based on international law would likely be enough to do the trick.

Every one wants peace on THEIR terms and neither trusts the other to actually honor any agreement.

And there are troublemakers on both sides that are determined to ensure that trouble will exists; providing excuses for those that were naysayers

 

[Tab]

Christ, it's nothing but a bunch hot air and they're laughing over everyone getting their panties in a wad.

 

[brandonb]

Israeli newspaper say Iran wants to blow them up and kill them.
United States newspapers (owned by Israelis) say Iran wants to blow up Israel and the USA.
United States gives $4 billion in aid to Israel for said Iran "problem".

Yet I'm not seeing much action on either side, except Israel keeps getting funding.

Seems to be working great!

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: XMan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Duwelon
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/S...2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Saw this today, from the supreme leader's own mouth.

Khamenei, who has the final say on all state matters, called Hamas's prime minister in Gaza, Ismail Haniyeh, a "mujahed", or holy warrior, saying "the Iranian nation will never let you be alone."

Khamenei said Israel "has weakened day by day ... Today, officials of the Zionist regime acknowledge that they are moving towards weakness, destruction and defeat," according to state television.

"Definitely, the world of Islam will see that day and hope the existing generation of the Palestinian people will watch the day Palestine is at the disposal of the Palestinian people, in the hands of the landlords," he said at prayers marking the Islamic Eid al-Fitr holiday that ends the holy month of Ramadan.

Anyone still think it's good for Iran to get nukes, in the name of world peace?

Glad I'm not an Israeli.

If the Israelis weren't defeated in the Yom Kippur War*, they sure as heck won't be beaten now. In a conventional war, I don't think they're beatable. I sure as heck wouldn't want to try, given their track record.

And yes, nuclear war is not "conventional" per se, but it doesn't make sense to use nukes on what is considered by Muslims to be Holy Ground. Sure, they'd be ridding it of the Jews, but they'd also be rendering it a wasteland for the next few centuries.

* Just to put it into perspective, the Israelis were outnumbered over 2:1 personnel wise, 3:1 in tanks, and 2:1 in airpower and they still won decisively. They know defense.

That's nice. I'm still glad I'm not an Israeli.

You do have to admire whatever the quality is that propels 3 million people or so to piss off a billion and a half. But then I too would rather be a bit meeker and live somewhere else. Long ranged the prospects don't look too good to me. To survive it would seem you'd have to life in a state of ginned up hate and terror.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
JPost?

AHAHAHAHAHA :laugh:

Pro-Israeli mouthpieces don't count.

So are you saying the Persian government doesnt want the destruction of Isreal?