YANWL thread: Denial of bail for Julian Assange

[Blackjack200]

I didn't see this discussed anywhere.

Britain denied bail for Assange, saying he was a flight risk because of his "itinerant schedule"

WTF? He turned himself in the same day the warrent for his arrest was issued.

Is this just an obvious case of GB pandering to the US's wishes?

if you really need a link: news.google.com

 

[OBLAMA2009]

im sick of hearing about him being a threat to security. when an gov official uses the words "national security" he or she really means government security. the government keeps secrets not because it's deathly afraid of iran, north korea, russia,china, the taliban, al qaeda, etc...the reason is because it is deathly afraid of the american people. few secrets the govt holds are not already known to foreign nations who have spies too. the secrets are kept primarily from the people so we remain ignorant and the govt can continue to lie to us. assange has perfomed a very valuable public service. i hope he keeps up the good work. we need more information, not less

 

[yllus]

Is this just an obvious case of GB pandering to the US's wishes?

Gee, it's hard to tell. (The below really doesn't prove anything, but it makes for amusing reading.)

WikiLeaks cables: Conservatives promised to run 'pro-American regime'

Conservative party politicians lined up before the general election to promise that they would run a "pro-American regime" and buy more arms from the US if they came to power this year, the leaked American embassy cables show.

promise that they would run a "pro-American regime" and buy more arms from the US if they came to power this year, the leaked American embassy cables show.

Despite British leaders' supportive stance, the dispatches also reveal – in what some will see as humiliating detail – how US diplomats in London are amused by what they call Britain's "paranoid" fears about the so-called special relationship.

One said the anxious British attitude "would often be humorous if it were not so corrosive" and that it was tempting to take advantage of this neurosis to "make London more willing to respond favourably when pressed for assistance". The UK was said to offer "unparalleled" help in promoting America's aims.

The incoming Conservatives appear to have made some wide-ranging offers of political co-operation with the US. The cables detail a series of private meetings with Tory frontbenchers, many of whom are now in the cabinet.

Liam Fox, now the defence secretary, promised to buy American military equipment, while the current foreign secretary, William Hague, offered the ambassador a "pro-American" government. Hague also said the entire Conservative leadership were, like him, "staunchly Atlanticist" and "children of Thatcher".

 

[Pulsar]

Gee, it's hard to tell. (The below really doesn't prove anything, but it makes for amusing reading.)

WikiLeaks cables: Conservatives promised to run 'pro-American regime'

So where is the wrongdoing that made it necessary to release this information?

Did we not already know certain government elements were more likely to side with the US?

Did we not already know that the population of GB elected those politicians?

404 - Outrage not found. Unless of course you disagree with their political positions from the start. That has NOTHING to do with the leaks.

Nothing I've seen so far has been a harsh indictment of the US. It's certainly embarassing to have confidential evaluations of high level dignetaries put out in the open. It's be like someone recording the conversation with your coworker calling your secretary a fat cow and having them play it back in a meeting. Having it played back doesn't make it untrue.....

 

[Infohawk]

So where is the wrongdoing that made it necessary to release this information?

Did we not already know certain government elements were more likely to side with the US?

Did we not already know that the population of GB elected those politicians?

404 - Outrage not found. Unless of course you disagree with their political positions from the start. That has NOTHING to do with the leaks.

Nothing I've seen so far has been a harsh indictment of the US. It's certainly embarassing to have confidential evaluations of high level dignetaries put out in the open. It's be like someone recording the conversation with your coworker calling your secretary a fat cow and having them play it back in a meeting. Having it played back doesn't make it untrue.....

I agree completely.

 

[Imp]

I finally bothered to read up on this. Apparently, the case got filed cause he fucked 2 Swedes and may have given them STDs. Since the two couldn't get a hold of him to tell him about the STDs, one called the cops. So, here we are...


Couldn't give two shits about him. Case is bullshit though.

 

[Infohawk]

I finally bothered to read up on this. Apparently, the case got filed cause he fucked 2 Swedes and may have given them STDs.

It's amazing how many different stories are circulating about this.

 

[yllus]

So where is the wrongdoing that made it necessary to release this information?

Did we not already know certain government elements were more likely to side with the US?

Did we not already know that the population of GB elected those politicians?

404 - Outrage not found. Unless of course you disagree with their political positions from the start. That has NOTHING to do with the leaks.

Nothing I've seen so far has been a harsh indictment of the US. It's certainly embarassing to have confidential evaluations of high level dignetaries put out in the open. It's be like someone recording the conversation with your coworker calling your secretary a fat cow and having them play it back in a meeting. Having it played back doesn't make it untrue.....

I generally don't care, as I hold citizenship in neither country. I thought that was obvious. Is text contained in parentheses invisible to you?

That said, I imagine that citizens of Great Britain might want to know what promises their leaders have made to a foreign nation, especially those that concern spending in the multiple billions of dollars.

 

[Infohawk]

That said, I imagine that citizens of Great Britain might want to know what promises their leaders have made to a foreign nation, especially those that concern spending in the multiple billions of dollars.

Do you think there should be any secrets in international relations? Maybe politicians shouldn't be able to confide in their lawyers or wives either... After all, they might say something we want to know.

 

[Fern]

I didn't see this discussed anywhere.

Britain denied bail for Assange, saying he was a flight risk because of his "itinerant schedule"

WTF? He turned himself in the same day the warrent for his arrest was issued.

Is this just an obvious case of GB pandering to the US's wishes?

if you really need a link: news.google.com

I don't see anything abnormal about the refusal of bail.

The guy moves around, and is hard to find. I don't see where he has any real ties to England.

I heard when asked his address by the court he gave them a PO Box #.

WTH does he expect?

Fern

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I don't see anything abnormal about the refusal of bail.

The guy moves around, and is hard to find. I don't see where he has any real ties to England.

I heard when asked his address by the court he gave them a PO Box #.

WTH does he expect?

Fern

I don't know what the usual procedure is in these cases, but Assange wants to get out of GB as fast as he can. Sit in jail and go to Sweden and deal with it and stay there after or any nation where US influence isn't as great.

 

[yllus]

Do you think there should be any secrets in international relations? Maybe politicians shouldn't be able to confide in their lawyers or wives either... After all, they might say something we want to know.

Sure there should be secrets. But it's usually nice to find out what politicians really think.