Yankees talking to YET ANOTHER all-star player.

[Fausto]

Gary Sheffield. :|

Here's hoping they fail to win the World Series.....again......despite their absurd payroll.

 

[minendo]

BFD. If they sign the player, good for them. Don't be pissed because Atlanta may lose their $11 million man.

 

[Argo]

I hope they don't get him. The only reason he was great this year was because it was his contract year. Plus he's 37 years old. Yankees should really keep their team intact, resign Pettitte and maybe sign another good pitcher.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: minendo
BFD. If they sign the player, good for them. Don't be pissed because Atlanta may lose their $11 million man.

I'm sorry. I'm pretty much a pathological Yankee-Hater?, so you'll have to forgive me.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Sheffield is a clubhouse cancer. You should be happy the Yankees are going after him.

 

[gistech1978]

Originally posted by: Argo
I hope they don't get him. The only reason he was great this year was because it was his contract year. Plus he's 37 years old. Yankees should really keep their team intact, resign Pettitte and maybe sign another good pitcher.

no
he was great this year because he worked out with barry bonds in the offseason.

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: gistech1978

Originally posted by: Argo
I hope they don't get him. The only reason he was great this year was because it was his contract year. Plus he's 37 years old. Yankees should really keep their team intact, resign Pettitte and maybe sign another good pitcher.

no
he was great this year because he worked out with barry bonds in the offseason.

I'm finding that hard to buy. Way too many players all of a sudden become all-stars in their control years, and then start dogging it once they sign multi-year contracts. Just look around the league for examples.

 

[cliftonite]

Whatever they do I hope they dont trade Nick Johnson or Alfonso Soriano for Curt Schilling or anyone over 30 :|

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Sheffield is a clubhouse cancer. You should be happy the Yankees are going after him.

He may have been in LA, but he's been great here in Atlanta unless the Braves are REALLY good at keeping secrets. I've heard nothing of him causing trouble within the organization.

Honestly, it must be something in the Dodgers as Brian Jordan was Mister Clubhouse Bandleader here and has been a total PITA since he went to LA.

 

[TheAudit]

If the price is right, why not? He had a great year (contract year) and they can use an outfielder. As long as the contract he gets isn't for more than 3 years than they could do a heck of a lot worse.

Me, personally, I'd rather spend the money on pitching.

 

[Double Trouble]

Baseball is broken. When one team can afford to pay $189 million in payroll per year while others make do with a $40 or $50 million payroll, there's obviously going to be a great disparity in talent across the league. I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they do (just spend more money and get the best players), but the bottom line is that the sport as it is now is broken and I for one have lost all interest.

Perhaps at some point the league will realize that (like the NFL and NBA), they can make the league much stronger by creating a level playing field and forcing all teams to field competitive teams.

That said, the Yankees would be stupid to get Shef, I think he's just trouble in the locker room and will not help them win it all.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: tagej
Baseball is broken. When one team can afford to pay $189 million in payroll per year while others make do with a $40 or $50 million payroll, there's obviously going to be a great disparity in talent across the league. I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they do (just spend more money and get the best players), but the bottom line is that the sport as it is now is broken and I for one have lost all interest.

Perhaps at some point the league will realize that (like the NFL and NBA), they can make the league much stronger by creating a level playing field and forcing all teams to field competitive teams.

That said, the Yankees would be stupid to get Shef, I think he's just trouble in the locker room and will not help them win it all.

The problem with making a level playing field is determining the cutoff. Some teams would be able to make the cutoff while others could not make the payment level depending on what payment cutoff is set.

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: tagej
Baseball is broken. When one team can afford to pay $189 million in payroll per year while others make do with a $40 or $50 million payroll, there's obviously going to be a great disparity in talent across the league. I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they do (just spend more money and get the best players), but the bottom line is that the sport as it is now is broken and I for one have lost all interest.

Perhaps at some point the league will realize that (like the NFL and NBA), they can make the league much stronger by creating a level playing field and forcing all teams to field competitive teams.

That said, the Yankees would be stupid to get Shef, I think he's just trouble in the locker room and will not help them win it all.

The problem with making a level playing field is determining the cutoff. Some teams would be able to make the cutoff while others could not make the payment level depending on what payment cutoff is set.

 

[TheAudit]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: tagej
Baseball is broken. When one team can afford to pay $189 million in payroll per year while others make do with a $40 or $50 million payroll, there's obviously going to be a great disparity in talent across the league. I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they do (just spend more money and get the best players), but the bottom line is that the sport as it is now is broken and I for one have lost all interest.

Perhaps at some point the league will realize that (like the NFL and NBA), they can make the league much stronger by creating a level playing field and forcing all teams to field competitive teams.

That said, the Yankees would be stupid to get Shef, I think he's just trouble in the locker room and will not help them win it all.

The problem with making a level playing field is determining the cutoff. Some teams would be able to make the cutoff while others could not make the payment level depending on what payment cutoff is set.

Obviously some teams spend a lot more than others. Some teams are not capable of spending more but there are a lot of teams on unrealistic budgets. They could spend more if they bothered to.

Only the NFL has a hard cap. The cap in the NBA doesn't mean much at all, some teams spend WAY more than others.

 

[Argo]

Originally posted by: tagej
Baseball is broken. When one team can afford to pay $189 million in payroll per year while others make do with a $40 or $50 million payroll, there's obviously going to be a great disparity in talent across the league. I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they do (just spend more money and get the best players), but the bottom line is that the sport as it is now is broken and I for one have lost all interest.

Perhaps at some point the league will realize that (like the NFL and NBA), they can make the league much stronger by creating a level playing field and forcing all teams to field competitive teams.

That said, the Yankees would be stupid to get Shef, I think he's just trouble in the locker room and will not help them win it all.

Teams like Brewers, Expos would never be successful, simply because their owners are not interested in being successful. Unlike NFL a lot of owners see their baseball teams as a source of income, and could care less how well they do. Until this changes, there will be no parity in baseball.

 

[Lvis]

Originally posted by: tagej
Baseball is broken. When one team can afford to pay $189 million in payroll per year while others make do with a $40 or $50 million payroll, there's obviously going to be a great disparity in talent across the league. I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they do (just spend more money and get the best players), but the bottom line is that the sport as it is now is broken and I for one have lost all interest.

Perhaps at some point the league will realize that (like the NFL and NBA), they can make the league much stronger by creating a level playing field and forcing all teams to field competitive teams.

That said, the Yankees would be stupid to get Shef, I think he's just trouble in the locker room and will not help them win it all.

New York needs another MLB team. Both NY teams now have it too good. Another team would help level the financial playing field.

 

[TheAudit]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: tagej
Baseball is broken. When one team can afford to pay $189 million in payroll per year while others make do with a $40 or $50 million payroll, there's obviously going to be a great disparity in talent across the league. I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they do (just spend more money and get the best players), but the bottom line is that the sport as it is now is broken and I for one have lost all interest.

Perhaps at some point the league will realize that (like the NFL and NBA), they can make the league much stronger by creating a level playing field and forcing all teams to field competitive teams.

That said, the Yankees would be stupid to get Shef, I think he's just trouble in the locker room and will not help them win it all.

Teams like Brewers, Expos would never be successful, simply because their owners are not interested in being successful. Unlike NFL a lot of owners see their baseball teams as a source of income, and could care less how well they do. Until this changes, there will be no parity in baseball.

Exactly.

 

[isasir]

I'm pretty sure that I read that the Yankees made about $50 million in profits last year, and I'm sure, even with the $180million payroll this year, they still made a nice profit. Does anyone have any actual figures tho'? It wouldn't surprise me if the Yankees could have a $200 million payroll, and still make a nice profit, just cuz well, they're the Yankees.

 

[konichiwa]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: tagej
Baseball is broken. When one team can afford to pay $189 million in payroll per year while others make do with a $40 or $50 million payroll, there's obviously going to be a great disparity in talent across the league. I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they do (just spend more money and get the best players), but the bottom line is that the sport as it is now is broken and I for one have lost all interest.

Perhaps at some point the league will realize that (like the NFL and NBA), they can make the league much stronger by creating a level playing field and forcing all teams to field competitive teams.

That said, the Yankees would be stupid to get Shef, I think he's just trouble in the locker room and will not help them win it all.

The problem with making a level playing field is determining the cutoff. Some teams would be able to make the cutoff while others could not make the payment level depending on what payment cutoff is set.

Not to mention some of the best teams have the smallest payrolls (A's, Marlins jump to mind). The salary cap idea is a good one but the hypothesis that teams with more $$ will always do better is just wrong.

 

[SludgeFactory]

Sheffield is too old. Whoever signs him is going to pay too much.

Although if he's still trying to negotiate this deal on his own to save the money, somebody may get him at a discount price.

 

[TheAudit]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: tagej
Baseball is broken. When one team can afford to pay $189 million in payroll per year while others make do with a $40 or $50 million payroll, there's obviously going to be a great disparity in talent across the league. I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they do (just spend more money and get the best players), but the bottom line is that the sport as it is now is broken and I for one have lost all interest.

Perhaps at some point the league will realize that (like the NFL and NBA), they can make the league much stronger by creating a level playing field and forcing all teams to field competitive teams.

That said, the Yankees would be stupid to get Shef, I think he's just trouble in the locker room and will not help them win it all.

The problem with making a level playing field is determining the cutoff. Some teams would be able to make the cutoff while others could not make the payment level depending on what payment cutoff is set.

Not to mention some of the best teams have the smallest payrolls (A's, Marlins jump to mind). The salary cap idea is a good one but the hypothesis that teams with more $$ will always do better is just wrong.

True.
The last two World Series winners had low payrolls.
But money does make it easier to compete. It's easier to plug guys in with a flexible payroll.
BUT
a lot of teams spend money and have nothing to show for it. The NY Mets started the season with the 2nd highest payroll in baseball and for the second straight season finished in last place. They couldn't have done worse if they tried, they have no farm system and next year is going to be just as barren.

Spending money is always good but how you spend, on whom you spend it, making the right decisions is more important.


At least baseball is still going strong, hockey is coming down to a lockout at the end of the season.

 

[m2kewl]

Originally posted by: cliftonite
Whatever they do I hope they dont trade Nick Johnson or Alfonso Soriano for Curt Schilling or anyone over 30 :|

yeah, schilling is going to be a free agent anyway after next season. that would be a dumbass move by cashman or king george.

 

[FoBoT]

no!! gary! don't do it! :Q

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: tagej
Baseball is broken. When one team can afford to pay $189 million in payroll per year while others make do with a $40 or $50 million payroll, there's obviously going to be a great disparity in talent across the league. I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they do (just spend more money and get the best players), but the bottom line is that the sport as it is now is broken and I for one have lost all interest.

Perhaps at some point the league will realize that (like the NFL and NBA), they can make the league much stronger by creating a level playing field and forcing all teams to field competitive teams.

That said, the Yankees would be stupid to get Shef, I think he's just trouble in the locker room and will not help them win it all.

Teams like Brewers, Expos would never be successful, simply because their owners are not interested in being successful. Unlike NFL a lot of owners see their baseball teams as a source of income, and could care less how well they do. Until this changes, there will be no parity in baseball.

It's more than just that. If they even became successful for three seasons, they would never be able to retain their own players. Even if they put in a $100 million payroll for 5 straight years - at incredible loss for the owner - do you really think that would significantly increase their base market for their team enough to even sustain a big budget? The only reason teams like the Yankees, Mets, etc. have large payrolls is b/c of they make tons off of their local media contracts. I don't think a small market team will be able to magically turn their city/area into a large market area.

Wilpon, Steinbrenner, etc. are not only spending money, but they're not losing any money either. It's a little strange, IMO, to say that David Glass should personally lose $50 million a year just because his team is in a small market.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: konichiwa

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: tagej
Baseball is broken. When one team can afford to pay $189 million in payroll per year while others make do with a $40 or $50 million payroll, there's obviously going to be a great disparity in talent across the league. I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they do (just spend more money and get the best players), but the bottom line is that the sport as it is now is broken and I for one have lost all interest.

Perhaps at some point the league will realize that (like the NFL and NBA), they can make the league much stronger by creating a level playing field and forcing all teams to field competitive teams.

That said, the Yankees would be stupid to get Shef, I think he's just trouble in the locker room and will not help them win it all.

The problem with making a level playing field is determining the cutoff. Some teams would be able to make the cutoff while others could not make the payment level depending on what payment cutoff is set.

Not to mention some of the best teams have the smallest payrolls (A's, Marlins jump to mind). The salary cap idea is a good one but the hypothesis that teams with more $$ will always do better is just wrong.

How long will they have those good teams? I doubt that the Marlins will even make the playoffs next year. The A's have had great luck to be able to have 3 aces develop at about the same time...that's a very rare thing to do. In the current conditions, I believe that it will be almost impossible for a small market team to have a dynasty.