YAMT: Simple math problem, I couldn't get it right

luvya

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If x and y are positive integers such that x = 8y + 12, what is the greatest common divisor of x and y?

1) x = 12u, where u is an integer
2) y = 12z, where z is an integer

A) Statement (1) alone is sufficient, but statement (2) alone is not sufficient
B) Statement (2) alone is sufficient, but statement (1) alone is not sufficient
C) Both statements together are sufficient, but neither statement alone is sufficient
D) Each statement alone is sufficient
E) Statements (1) and (2) together are not sufficient





The answer is B, but I need to know why.


EDIT:

Ok, here is the solution

Statement (1) implies that x is a multiple of 12. If x = 36, then y = 36-12/8 = 3 and the greatest common divisor of x and y is 3. However, if x = 60, then y = 6 and the greatest common divisor of x and y is 6. Therefore, statement (1) alone is not sufficient. Statement (2) Implies that y is a multiple of 12 or that 12 is a divisor of y. Since x = 8y +12, it follows that 12 is a divisor of x, and thus 12 is a common divisor of x and y. Since 12 = x-8y, any common divisor of x and y must be a divisor of 12. Therefore no integer greater than 12 is a common divisor of x and y, and 12 is the greatest common divisor of x and y. Thus, statement (2) alone is sufficient.
 

Pex

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You are an idiot...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...actually I suck at math too.
 

memo

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i'm not sure if i am getting the question. are they saying 12u and 12z are the greatest common divisors?
 

JoPh

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maybe cuase this....



y = - ((12-12u)/8)

and x = 96z + 12

and y is suppose to a positive intager so. it doesnt work.... or something. i dunno maybe someone can go off this?


ill keep working.
 

luvya

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Just check it again, I didn't reproduce the problem wrongly. I can post the solution up later, but the solution didn't make sense to me.
 

JoPh

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well post the solution to see if anyone can make sense of it...
 

puffff

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just make a chart

for statement (a):
x | y | gcd
60 | 6 | 6
108 | 12 | 12
obviously the gcd is getting bigger, so you cant determine the gcd.

for statement (b):

x | y | gcd
108 | 12 | 12
204 | 24 | 12
300 | 36 | 12

the gcd stays constant... that is, it has to be 12.
 

luvya

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Originally posted by: puffff
just make a chart

for statement (a):
x | y | gcd
60 | 6 | 6
108 | 12 | 12
obviously the gcd is getting bigger, so you cant determine the gcd.

for statement (b):

x | y | gcd
108 | 12 | 12
204 | 24 | 12
300 | 36 | 12

the gcd stays constant... that is, it has to be 12.

I have to say this is much easier to understand. Great job

;)