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[Amused]

Obama said some things critical of police during his terms. This shooter's goal was to kill cops, white cops. There is at least as much connection to Obama in this attack as there is Trump with the current events. I don't blame either president, but understand leaders do have to be careful with their message.

It seems leftists cannot ever, EVER accept the idea of personal responsibility. Unprotected sex that ends up with a pregnancy? Kill the fetus, what an inconvenience. Took out four or five years worth of student loans to get a degree in sociology with an emphasis on gender studies? Well, that debt should be erased, personal decisions be damned. People don't want to better themselves, add skills employers want, take on more responsibility and be paid better? Just double minimum wage, free healthcare for all. Some asshole gets a gun and shoots 20 people? TRUMP, orange man bad!

Here is his manifesto.

It is, through and through, an anti-immigration, anti--mexican, anti-latino rant. It is, almost word for word, a fucking Trump rally. And despite his claim at the end that this is NOT inspired by Trump, the fact that he fucking mentions it at all is kinda proof it is.

The right-wing has a white supremacist cancer growing through it. And no amount of lefty hate or whataboutisms is going to change that.

Address your own fucking metastasized racism before trying to blame everyone else as you, curiously enough, accuse everyone else of doing.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Even with all that blabbering on, it doesn't even fit with him going on a random shooting spree. He even says 'deporting and killing of non-whites is horrific' and talks about he can't consider killing fellow Americans. No, either he was already batshit insane and non of this really means jack shit, or this is faked bs.

 

[Vic]

Praising and hoping for more isn't the same thing as not caring about them. Again, I don't care how many mass shootings happen it's not going to change the calculus for gun control nor should it and if you want to wet your bed scared because you're afraid of the evil black guns that's on you.

Once again, terrorist sympathizer, I'm not afraid of guns, I own guns and support gun ownership. That's why I condemn unlawful gun violence whenever it occurs, because the greatest threat to any right is the tolerance of its criminal abuse. While you openly support unlawful gun violence under the hopes that it keeps your political opponents in fear.
You literally said that, guy. Spin it all you want, you can't take it back. Any objective rational thinking person can easily see that some higher taxes are no where near the threat to liberty as your call for fear through violence against those whose speech you disagree with.

 

[Vic]

Don't hold back on us man, tell us how you really feel.

He's been very clear that as long the 'correct' people are the victims, he's totally cool with mass shootings and hopes even more occur as a means to promote his political agenda.
IOW, Glenn just came out in thread as a terrorist or, at the very least, a terrorist sympathizer.
When someone tells you who they really are, believe them.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

He's been very clear that as long the 'correct' people are the victims, he's totally cool with mass shootings and hopes even more occur as a means to promote his political agenda.
IOW, Glenn just came out in thread as a terrorist or, at the very least, a terrorist sympathizer.

Can one be extremely apathetic? Apathetic Extremist? Not sure how to verbalize that. I feel like that's what Glenn is.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Here is his manifesto.

It is, through and through, an anti-immigration, anti--mexican, anti-latino rant. It is, almost word for word, a fucking Trump rally. And despite his claim at the end that this is NOT inspired by Trump, the fact that he fucking mentions it at all is kinda proof it is.

The right-wing has a white supremacist cancer growing through it. And no amount of lefty hate or whataboutisms is going to change that.

Address your own fucking metastasized racism before trying to blame everyone else as you, curiously enough, accuse everyone else of doing.

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So then we get to blame the Dems, liberals for the Dayton shooting? You're being ridiculous and again, trying to place blame on everything but the person that pulled the trigger.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

On social media, the suspect’s biography started to emerge. On his Twitter page, reviewed by Heavy, he described himself as “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.” He wrote on Twitter that he would happily vote for Democrat Elizabeth Warren, praised Satan, was upset about the 2016 presidential election results, and added, “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.” The Greene County Board of Elections lists his party as “Dem.”

 

[fskimospy]

This guy really is the prototypical 8channer, someone who is convinced of his intellectual superiority while revealing through his writing that he's a total fucking moron. Race mixing reduces genetic diversity? lolwut, it does the opposite.

 

[fskimospy]

So then we get to blame the Dems, liberals for the Dayton shooting? You're being ridiculous and again, trying to place blame on everything but the person that pulled the trigger.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

No, he's just recognizing reality. Of course some left wing terrorism exists but it is dwarfed in scale by right wing terrorism, specifically white supremacist right wing terrorism. This is just a simple fact.

Trump has not only made it easier for white supremacist terrorists to act by eliminating funding used to combat them, he frequently echoes their rhetoric and amplifies it. All this takes is a set of ears or eyeballs and a functioning brain. Trump is a racist, and that is why racists like him. There's a reason why all the white supremacist groups are such big Trump fans. They aren't stupid, they just don't feel the need to lie about Trump's racism like you do.

 

[Vic]

Even with all that blabbering on, it doesn't even fit with him going on a random shooting spree. He even says 'deporting and killing of non-whites is horrific' and talks about he can't consider killing fellow Americans. No, either he was already batshit insane and non of this really means jack shit, or this is faked bs.

The Unabomber was a genius mathematician who proposed a near-anarchy as an anti-collectivist libertarian ideal, going so far as to live completely 'off the grid' in a small cabin in a remote area of Montana. But he still used the govt's postal service to kill people.

 

[Amused]

So then we get to blame the Dems, liberals for the Dayton shooting? You're being ridiculous and again, trying to place blame on everything but the person that pulled the trigger.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

FFS

 

[Vic]

Can one be extremely apathetic? Apathetic Extremist? Not sure how to verbalize that. I feel like that's what Glenn is.

There's nothing apathetic about Glenn's desire for people to live in fear because he's afraid of their political speech and ideas.

 

[SlowSpyder]

No, he's just recognizing reality. Of course some left wing terrorism exists but it is dwarfed in scale by right wing terrorism, specifically white supremacist right wing terrorism. This is just a simple fact.

Trump has not only made it easier for white supremacist terrorists to act by eliminating funding used to combat them, he frequently echoes their rhetoric and amplifies it. All this takes is a set of ears or eyeballs and a functioning brain. Trump is a racist, and that is why racists like him. There's a reason why all the white supremacist groups are such big Trump fans. They aren't stupid, they just don't feel the need to lie about Trump's racism like you do.

Antifa is on the verge of being terrorists and they show up a lot more than Nazis. Stop ignoring leftist terror, I don't ignore that it is a threat from the right, but you always deflect. Honestly, your opinion automatically gets dismissed when you do things like call Trump and/or his supporters racists.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Antifa is on the verge of being terrorists and they show up a lot more than Nazis. Stop ignoring leftist terror, I don't ignore that it is a thread from the right, but you always deflect. Honestly, your opinion automatically gets dismissed when you do things like call Trump and/or his supporters racists.

It only gets dismissed by you. You should think on that.

 

[Vic]

Antifa is on the verge of being terrorists and they show up a lot more than Nazis. Stop ignoring leftist terror, I don't ignore that it is a threat from the right, but you always deflect. Honestly, your opinion automatically gets dismissed when you do things like call Trump and/or his supporters racists.

"You always deflect," says the guy who always deflects.

You're only bringing up antifa here in order to deflect away from the real incident of right wing terrorism that is the topic of this thread.

 

[Maxima1]

This guy really is the prototypical 8channer, someone who is convinced of his intellectual superiority while revealing through his writing that he's a total fucking moron. Race mixing reduces genetic diversity? lolwut, it does the opposite.

I think what he's referring to there is "white genocide". Darker skin alleles are dominate.

 

[SlowSpyder]

"You always deflect," says the guy who always deflects.

You're only bringing up antifa here in order to deflect away from the real incident of right wing terrorism that is the topic of this thread.

I haven't deflected, I spoke about this quite a bit earlier. Right wing terror is a threat that we should keep an eye on. But, they are a very small threat, they don't compare to a 9/11. And let's keep it that way.

 

[darkswordsman17]

"You always deflect," says the guy who always deflects.

You're only bringing up antifa here in order to deflect away from the real incident of right wing terrorism that is the topic of this thread.

I can't think of a single antifa situation that is equal to this one shooting. And this is just one of many of these right wing shootings. (Cristchurch, Anders Brevik, OKC, individually have done more harm than ALL of the Antifa violence combined).

You have to be the biggest moron in existence, a liar, or a psychopath to even try to suggest Antifa is even just "not quite as bad" (let alone equal or worse) than the right wingers. (I'm clearly directing this at the psychopathic lying moron that you're addressing and not you.)

 

[Vic]

I haven't deflected, I spoke about this quite a bit earlier. Right wing terror is a threat that we should keep an eye on. But, they are a very small threat, they don't compare to a 9/11. And let's keep it that way.

Bringing up antifa in a thread about right wing terror is deflection by definition.

As for 9/11, I never compared this to 9/11. But I will compare it to San Bernardino, where your Dear Leader said we should tear up the 1a and ban an entire religion (until we knew what was going on) over fewer deaths than what just happened in El Paso.
Maybe you've forgotten that Trump's quote that we should ban Muslims was in response to San Bernardino? And if someone were to go back to that thread here about that incident, would they also find you calling that a 'very small threat' like you're doing here? Even though more people were just murdered in El Paso than were in San Bernardino? I bet not.

 

[Commodus]

I haven't deflected, I spoke about this quite a bit earlier. Right wing terror is a threat that we should keep an eye on. But, they are a very small threat, they don't compare to a 9/11. And let's keep it that way.

Actually, domestic terrorism inspired by right-wing ideology has been considered the primary threat in the US since 9/11, and it's deemed a "small threat" in part because prosecutors often refuse to file terrorism-related charges. Coincidentally, today diehard Trump supporter Cesar Sayoc was sentenced to 20 years in prison for mailing explosives to Trump's critics.

Also, you're absolutely deflecting. Tell me, when's the last time Antifa conducted a mass shooting, or mailed bombs to Republicans? I don't think unprovoked violence is acceptable no matter the scale, but there's a big difference between punching a neo-Nazi and killing 22 innocent people to send a message.

 

[Vic]

I can't think of a single antifa situation that is equal to this one shooting. And this is just one of many of these right wing shootings. (Cristchurch, Anders Brevik, OKC, individually have done more harm than ALL of the Antifa violence combined).

You have to be the biggest moron in existence, a liar, or a psychopath to even try to suggest Antifa is even just "not quite as bad" (let alone equal or worse) than the right wingers. (I'm clearly directing this at the psychopathic lying moron that you're addressing and not you.)

As far as I am aware, no one has been killed through any incident of antifa violence in America. Although, Slow does like to blame the Dallas incident on antifa or BLM, according to whichever scapegoat suits his immediate purpose, and even though there is no connection.
I do disagree with antifa's tactics, however, as IMO they serve no purpose but to provide justification for right wingers to commit violence and murder, as we're seeing from Slow and Glenn in this thread.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Actually, domestic terrorism inspired by right-wing ideology has been considered the primary threat in the US since 9/11, and it's deemed a "small threat" in part because prosecutors often refuse to file terrorism-related charges. Coincidentally, today diehard Trump supporter Cesar Sayoc was sentenced to 20 years in prison for mailing explosives to Trump's critics.

Also, you're absolutely deflecting. Tell me, when's the last time Antifa conducted a mass shooting, or mailed bombs to Republicans? I don't think unprovoked violence is acceptable no matter the scale, but there's a big difference between punching a neo-Nazi and killing 22 innocent people to send a message.

The Dayton shooter was a Democrat socialist. I bet he sided with and was inspired by Antifa.

 

[fskimospy]

Antifa is on the verge of being terrorists and they show up a lot more than Nazis. Stop ignoring leftist terror, I don't ignore that it is a threat from the right, but you always deflect.

The government disagrees with you, they think right wing terror, specifically terror from ultra right wing white supremacists, is a vastly larger problem than left wing terror. Do you have information they don't?

Honestly, your opinion automatically gets dismissed when you do things like call Trump and/or his supporters racists.

How odd that all the self-avowed racists love the guy who's totally not a racist, haha. Has Trump just hoodwinked them?

Also, if Trump didn't want to be called a racist he probably shouldn't have said laziness is a trait in black people, for example. That's pretty racist!

 

[Commodus]

The Dayton shooter was a Democrat socialist. I bet he sided with and was inspired by Antifa.

We don't actually know, because his motives are unclear. We do, however, know that the El Paso shooter loves Trump and was motivated by anti-immigrant, anti-Hispanic ideology.

 

[SlowSpyder]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

By 2017, the FBI and DHS reported that they were monitoring suspicious Antifa activity in relation to terrorism.[58]

The Dayton shooter was a far leftist / socialist, anti-Trumper.

You are blinded by your partisan agenda, not shocked.

 

[Vic]

The Dayton shooter was a Democrat socialist. I bet he sided with and was inspired by Antifa.

And why is this relevant in a discussion about the Republican white supremacist who shot up El Paso?
Oh that's right, deflection and your hypocrisy. You see, a moral person would see both incidents as heinous crimes, while you use one to justify your support of the other, for purely partisan and ideological reasons.