Yamaha SW1000XG sound card

Daovonnaex

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What kind of sound advantages would this have over an Acoustic Edge, a CS4630 based card, an nForce southbridge, or an Audigy?
 

bluemax

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For starters, it has a VERY good MIDI synthesizer. I'm trusting you know what that's all about, and what it's used for. ;)
And, it has *some* hardware support for pro-end recording software. Not the greatest, but a far cry from the "Game" audio cards such as Live/Audigy, etc. Hardware support cuts down the latency time in recording audio - especially important when using MULTI-track audio. It's much cleaner sounding too.
Don't buy this card if you don't plan on using the MIDI synthesizer though - you can do much better for less money from
EgoSys and MIDIman.
 

Daovonnaex

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<< For starters, it has a VERY good MIDI synthesizer. I'm trusting you know what that's all about, and what it's used for. ;)
And, it has *some* hardware support for pro-end recording software. Not the greatest, but a far cry from the "Game" audio cards such as Live/Audigy, etc. Hardware support cuts down the latency time in recording audio - especially important when using MULTI-track audio. It's much cleaner sounding too.
Don't buy this card if you don't plan on using the MIDI synthesizer though - you can do much better for less money from
EgoSys and MIDIman.
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Would it offer advantages in sound quality, though?
 

bluemax

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Like I said above, cheaper products from EgoSys and MIDIMan are AT LEAST as good (if not BETTER, depending on model) than the SW1000XG *for audio recording*. The only thing the Yamaha card really offers is the nice MIDI synthesizer and the optional snap-on module for a classic DX-7 synth.
If you're not going to do any MIDI music and ALL digital audio recording of LIVE musicians, there is little benefit of going for the much more expensive SW1000XG card.
For compatibility between certain recording software, I'd question the Yamaha card across the board. Unless it does EXACTLY what you want and works with the software you plan on using, I'd look elsewhere.
This is a good example of cheaper, but better recording: EgoSys WaveTerminal 2496
 

Daovonnaex

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<< Like I said above, cheaper products from EgoSys and MIDIMan are AT LEAST as good (if not BETTER, depending on model) than the SW1000XG *for audio recording*. The only thing the Yamaha card really offers is the nice MIDI synthesizer and the optional snap-on module for a classic DX-7 synth.
If you're not going to do any MIDI music and ALL digital audio recording of LIVE musicians, there is little benefit of going for the much more expensive SW1000XG card.
For compatibility between certain recording software, I'd question the Yamaha card across the board. Unless it does EXACTLY what you want and works with the software you plan on using, I'd look elsewhere.
This is a good example of cheaper, but better recording: EgoSys WaveTerminal 2496
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You've misunderstood me. I'm hoping that one of the "prosumer" sound cards will offer better sound quality (not recording, general MIDI, etc.) than one of the consumer cards.
 

bluemax

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er... "sound quality" means recording quality AND playback quality. If you're a home or even pro musician, you want both. Garbage In Equals Garbage Out, as the saying goes. ;)

The higher the bitrate, the better. (16bit, 18, 20, 24bit, etc.)
The higher the sampling rate, the better. (44.1khz, 48khz, 96khz)
The higher the signal-to-noise (s/n) ratio, the better. (most game cards fall below 100db)
And other factors that tend to produce cleaner, MORE RELIABLE sound in both recording and playback as well as faster response times. Hardware support from your music software is a critical factor here.

To put it in a gamer's mentality: A game written for 3dfx video cards will support 3dfx video cards better than generic "across-the-board" support. Worse, if it ONLY supports certain hardware, your video card might not work at all. Games used to be that way, and to a small degree - still is.
 

Daovonnaex

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<< er... "sound quality" means recording quality AND playback quality. If you're a home or even pro musician, you want both. Garbage In Equals Garbage Out, as the saying goes. ;)

The higher the bitrate, the better. (16bit, 18, 20, 24bit, etc.)
The higher the sampling rate, the better. (44.1khz, 48khz, 96khz)
The higher the signal-to-noise (s/n) ratio, the better. (most game cards fall below 100db)
And other factors that tend to produce cleaner, MORE RELIABLE sound in both recording and playback as well as faster response times. Hardware support from your music software is a critical factor here.

To put it in a gamer's mentality: A game written for 3dfx video cards will support 3dfx video cards better than generic "across-the-board" support. Worse, if it ONLY supports certain hardware, your video card might not work at all. Games used to be that way, and to a small degree - still is.
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Alright, then do any of the Prosumer cards support A3D, EA3D, etc.?
 

bluemax

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No. Pro audio cards are NOT for games, nor will they improve games at all.
They rarely, if ever, support DirectX for games, let alone A3D or EAX.
If you're after amazing games and MP3's get an Audigy, etc. Couple it with a PRO audio card for strictly REAL music work. (Real = MAKING music, not just playing everyone else's back.) ;)
 

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The SW1000XG is basically a Yammy mu100 on a pci card and any musician will tell you that (even at list price) that card is a steal! Of course, you have to be into MIDI to appreciate that...

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Daovonnaex

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<< No. Pro audio cards are NOT for games, nor will they improve games at all.
They rarely, if ever, support DirectX for games, let alone A3D or EAX.
If you're after amazing games and MP3's get an Audigy, etc. Couple it with a PRO audio card for strictly REAL music work. (Real = MAKING music, not just playing everyone else's back.) ;)
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I thought so. Just double checking.