Yamaha 16X10X40 Lightspeed CDRW

JustStarting

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Buy has this drive for $228. Call CSR and use the $30 coupon. Did it today- (CSR- Katrina). Drive comes with Adaptec software and a CD labeling kit. Final price $206 to my door. Great price for the fastest drive on the market right now.
 

Brainiac2000

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good price for high speed ide, but IMO I'd always go with scsi, although more expensive, its more reliable, and can more sufficiently fulfill the bandwidth
 

paradox0521

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Nice and fast drive - but doesn't stand to up the plextor drive anyhow. As far as I know, Plextor is the only drive that can read sub-codes. So, if you're into copying copyrighted stuff, I doubt this yamaha will get past that stuff.
 

MontyBurns

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brainiac: A SCSI 8X drive is not going to copy a disc faster than an IDE 8X drive. SCSI can help you if you are having bandwidth problems, yes, but with a fast computer and a reputable drive, you're not going to have any problems.
 

MontyBurns

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d0ofy: i can't find the review on Maximum PC. I searched for the model #, and didn't find anything. Can you point me to it?

And as for "plextor is best everything else sucks:" It sounds from your comments that you don't own this drive. What have you read about it? Can you point us to some reviews?
 

BoBandCompany

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This drive does not start to burn at 16x unitl the outer edge is reached. The drive begins at 8x and ramps up after most of the disk is done. Also the RW works the same way, start slow and ramp up after most of the disk is burned. My roomie got this drive and my tdk 12x was a good bit faster and I never burn a coaster. Stay away from this thing and get the tdk 16x or plextor.
 

JustStarting

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You guys are slamming this drive and dont even have it! I love peoples opinions- everybody's got one and, well, you know the rest... Reviews I've read that have been slightly negative towards the drive- I followed up on. Seems to me that people forget- to burn at 16X, you need 16X media. No brainer right? Not so, for everyone.
 

ericd

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I have this drive so I will respond to some of the comments.

The drive actually starts at 12X CAV on a burn and around the 14 minute mark reaches 16X, converts to CLV and stays there.

This drive is vulnerable to making coasters but burnproof or SCSI is the only thing that is going to save any 16X from that. Keep in mind that we have no comparison piece here, could be that the Plextors and TDKs will be just as bad, burnproof will keep the disc from faulting but it may have to stop and start so many times that it makes the burn process longer than a 12X. I have the IDE version and wish I had gone SCSI, but I can't guarantee it would have made a difference seeing how I havn't used the SCSI version. I have however burned many discs succesfully at 16X...just not while I was using my computer at the same time.

To me the most impressive spec of this drive is not it's burn speed it is it's DAE speed. I have personally seen this drive reach 36X audio extraction and that wasn't even on a full 74 or 80 min CD (about 72 minutes as I remember). This speed is the reason why I bought the drive due to the fact that I am in the process of ripping ALL 300+ of my CD's into MP3. This drive will rip the audio track faster than my PIII 600 oc'd to 900 will encode it.....that's impressive to me.

If you are willing to burn at 12X instead of 16X or let your machine sit while you are burning the disc then there are no real weaknesses to this drive. I can't speak from experience about the subchannel data part from experience because I havn't tried CloneCD or any other programs like it with the drive yet, although as I remember storagereview.com said that it was supported and worked.

Just my $.02 so do what you want with it.

Eric
 

ericd

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Two more things....

I just found another review of the SCSI version and according it CloneCD does support this drive and supports RAW-DAO mode with it as well.

BoBand- the reason your drive might have been faster is if the media you were using was not 16X compatible....if you were using say 8x media the Yamaha would pick that up and reduce burning speed to 8X. I don't know for sure but it's a possibility that this explains the difference.

Eric
 

kennyG

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JustStarting
The Drive you bought is a good drive. But for some extra wood I would go with the TDK VeloCD 16/10/40
Good drive I,ve had the 8/4/32 TDK. and the Software is great..good support also..my 4cents:cool:
 

FrankRizzo

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I have a 4x Yamaha that has served me well... although getting a bit long in the tooth....

Here are some excerpts and corresponding reviews of the lightspeed:

"While not being a true 16x write, 10 rewrite drive it was the first on the market to actually hit 16x. Don't get me wrong, the drive was very fast and blew the pants off any 12x CD-RW on the market for normal writing." "It's SCSI! (Real men use SCSI) "

CDRLABS

2CPU

CDRINFO
 

limsandy

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itsmeeh:

hp sucks and does daylight robbery
Go for TDK. It's cheap and has burnproof too.
 

Rainguy

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Burnproof is a marketing gimmick..com'mon how many of you are really playing Quake III while burning a CDR?? It's kind of stupid IMO. I have had the 16X SCSI version for a week and a half and have burned close to 50 black Memorex 16X with ZERO coasters with all of them taking 5 min. or less to burn. I mean who has time to play a game while switching out CDR's at 5 min's a pop??? I surfed the net, watched TV on the ATI AIW and listened to MP3's and could not get a coaster out of the Yammy. I read that review of the Yammy in MaxPC and I have to think those dudes were drunk or had a very old firmware when they tested it. I have the 1.0H and have used CDRWin 3.8D, EZCD 4.03 and Clone CD with not a problem. The only problem I have had with the Yammy was being able to read some of my cheap quality 4X CDRW's.

Also, I am in the business and have seen more Plextors crap out and be RMA'ed than Yamaha's so stop tooting the horn thinking the Plextor is the almighty CDRW out there.
 

stso

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lundog22
It's not available in any store yet ...
Do you know how much it costs? thanks.
 

vec

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For anyone who picks this drive up make sure you update the bios to the "H" version so it supports DAO in CloneCD.

If you use Easy Creator CD 4.0, make sure you download the 4.03 (or 4.3) version for full support of RW.