YAJT a bit of a job dilemma

rasczak

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I've been offered a Tier 1/2 Helpdesk/Desktop Support position. They are going to start me at $62,000 a year.

The current job I make $45,000 a year. I also have a job interview for a part time position on the weekends that would bring in an extra $200/week. ( I will definitely get it as the hiring manager is a good friend of mine.) so total $55,000 a year

The job offer is to work for as contractor for 6 months then get picked up by the company on a full time salaried basis. The benefits are very similar, 401k matching, medical, dental, paid education, etc etc and again $62,000 a year. I do not like working as a helpdesk agent too much, but i did like doing desktop support.

My current job, I work as a Jr. Sys admin and will be on the contract for at least the next ten years. I love working here, I love the people I work with. I also have a lot of leeway with my work time. I come in at 4:30am and leave at 1:30pm. I have a gym that I pay 8/mo for. Lots of perks Then again it's paying $45,000 a year. The experience that I've gained on this job has been invaluable. I not only gained more Windows experience, (I was responsible for the design and implementation of our domain) but i have been able to gain some experience with unix as well in a production environment. i've also gained a lot of experience with firewalls and routers, so this position has been very good to me.

I live in San Diego which is a very expensive city, we are a single income family, and I have some debt I need to pay down, along with building up my savings. I've spoken with my wife about this and she likes the security that I have with this job, but she has left it up to me. It's a difficult decision, as my last experience with being a contractor was not a good one. I was told that I would be hired on after a year on the helpdesk, but that didn't pan out. I also wasn't too thrilled with being on the helpdesk. Up until now, my goal was to work as a sys admin, going back to the helpdesk seems like a huge step backwards to me. Then again, given my current financial situation, the step up in pay is enticing.


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Cliffs:

Job offer for $62,000 a year matches my current job benefits almost exactly

Job is contract job for six months then get hired on.

Current job pays less, but i love the job along with all benefits and the job security, and take on second job.

Live in san diego, single income family. some debt, need to build savings, which new job would definitely be helpful with.

Worked as a helpdesk agent before, didn't like it too much, but i do like desktop support

Current job has given me a lot of experience with both windows and unix plus more networking experience

going back to helpdesk seems like a huge step backwards in my career, but the pay is more than I've ever made, and will probably be the most i can make without a degree behind me if i go back to the helpdesk.

Thanks!
 

Mxylplyx

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There is no right answer. Taking a contract to hire position is a very risky move in the current economy, but on the flip side there is a substantial upside given the huge bump in pay. Do you have a family to support? Do you have decent savings to weather a layoff should it not pan out? Do you think your current company would take you back if things go south?

You might even be able to extract a decent counter offer out of your current company if you are well respected. I would learn as much as you can about the prospective company's finances, and how the company is positioned to weather the current economic crisis.
 

manlymatt83

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Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
There is no right answer. Taking a contract to hire position is a very risky move in the current economy, but on the flip side there is a substantial upside given the huge bump in pay. Do you have a family to support? Do you have decent savings to weather a layoff should it not pan out? Do you think your current company would take you back if things go south?

You might even be able to extract a decent counter offer out of your current company if you are well respected. I would learn as much as you can about the prospective company's finances, and how the company is positioned to weather the current economic crisis.

pretty much said it
 

imported_Imp

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$7000 and you risk happiness. If you're content now, $7000 is pocket change. It's a quarter of a nice, new car. Not sure what your taxes are like there either. A $7000 bump here results in a net bump of maybe $3500 after being bumped in the tax bracket as well.
 

ViviTheMage

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Originally posted by: pontifex
damn...$62k for help desk? i only make about half that. where is that at?

he said San Diego ... read !

IMO, I would stick it out at the current employer...with the economy the way it is.
 

rasczak

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Originally posted by: Imp
$7000 and you risk happiness. If you're content now, $7000 is pocket change. It's a quarter of a nice, new car. Not sure what your taxes are like there either. A $7000 bump here results in a net bump of maybe $3500 after being bumped in the tax bracket as well.

it's actually a $17,000 bump. If it were $7,000 I wouldn't really be considering it. Basically, $17,000 is enough to take care of all my bills, and build my emergency fund in less than a year.

**edit, sorry about the poll, my current job is only paying $45,000. If I work the part time job i am interviewing for this thursday, then that's an added $10,000.
 

TwiceOver

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$17K sounds really nice but it is easy to bump off contractors in this economy. I'd stick with job1 personally.
 

rasczak

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Originally posted by: pontifex
damn...$62k for help desk? i only make about half that. where is that at?

It's actually a combo position. Desktop Support/Helpdesk.
 

CRXican

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More money, more problems and don't forget more taxes. Stay where you are.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: pontifex
damn...$62k for help desk? i only make about half that. where is that at?

It's actually a combo position. Desktop Support/Helpdesk.

whats the difference between desktop support and helpdesk?

my title is desktop / network analyst and i make about $33K before taxes.
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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While $17k is quite a bit of difference, you're trading a job you like with people you like for a relative unknown.

How's the situation at the current job? Could you coax more out of them if you talked to your boss?

He may tell you "good luck kid, we're gonna miss you," or he may offer you something to get you to stay.

A big part of how he responds will be in how YOU approach him with this.

As has already been said, in the current economy, taking a contractor-to-hire position may be a bit risky. (is there any way around that on the other end?)
 

2Xtreme21

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: pontifex
damn...$62k for help desk? i only make about half that. where is that at?

It's actually a combo position. Desktop Support/Helpdesk.

whats the difference between desktop support and helpdesk?

my title is desktop / network analyst and i make about $33K before taxes.

I was desktop support and I basically was tier 2 support for the helpdesk. E.g. user calls in, helpdesk can't resolve issue, issues a ticket to us, we physically go to their location, fix the issue.

And yeah I made about what you made. I can't believe someone doing desktop support could make much more...
 

gorcorps

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If you like the first job, I'd stay there for now. $55000/yr isn't bad IMO.
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: Imp
$7000 and you risk happiness. If you're content now, $7000 is pocket change. It's a quarter of a nice, new car. Not sure what your taxes are like there either. A $7000 bump here results in a net bump of maybe $3500 after being bumped in the tax bracket as well.

it's actually a $17,000 bump. If it were $7,000 I wouldn't really be considering it. Basically, $17,000 is enough to take care of all my bills, and build my emergency fund in less than a year.

**edit, sorry about the poll, my current job is only paying $45,000. If I work the part time job i am interviewing for this thursday, then that's an added $10,000.

I was under the impression that you'd only take the part-time job if you stayed on this lower paying one.

So why not try to use the new position as a bargaining chip? Get a couple $k boost.
 

Pegun

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Would it be possible to take the offer to your supervisor and try to negotiate some sort of pay raise?

Edit: Got in too late but same idea
 

rasczak

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Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: rasczak
Originally posted by: pontifex
damn...$62k for help desk? i only make about half that. where is that at?

It's actually a combo position. Desktop Support/Helpdesk.

whats the difference between desktop support and helpdesk?

my title is desktop / network analyst and i make about $33K before taxes.

I was desktop support and I basically was tier 2 support for the helpdesk. E.g. user calls in, helpdesk can't resolve issue, issues a ticket to us, we physically go to their location, fix the issue.

And yeah I made about what you made. I can't believe someone doing desktop support could make much more...

The rate is high because of my clearance level as well as my experience with both desktop support and helpdesk. I've got 5 years of desktop support and 3 years of helpdesk support. Working for NMCI has had it's positives. I was ranked as a Tier2 on the helpdesk as well.

I'm still going back and forth with the company about guarateeing my rollover to a full time position. If I don't get that guarantee, then i'm not gonna move.

As for the question of asking for more pay, my yearly review is coming up soon, so i'll probably ask then.
 

Vehemence

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If your current job is enough for your life to be livable and enjoyable, stick with it. As long as everything's covered, not hating (let alone enjoying) my job is more important than $X thousand more a year, personally.
 

lokiju

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Enjoying what you do easily outweighs making more money in the long run IMO.
 

polarmystery

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Originally posted by: lokiju
Enjoying what you do easily outweighs making more money in the long run IMO.

QFMFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I seriously can't stress that enough.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: Imp
$7000 and you risk happiness.

this is how i looked at it, as well. i wouldnt know if its worth trying to get a counteroffer where he is or something, but if you love your job and the bills arent killing you, i say keep it and take the part-time thing.