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SpiderX

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Okay I'm sick of these Iraq threads and don't really wanna start another, but I've got a question.

If Saddam is such a threat to the whole world and needs to be taken out, why didn't Clinton in his 8 years as Pres go after him?
(you can skip the obligatory, he was too busy boffing the interns, etc. 😛)

 
Cause we had to deal with Melosivich (sp)

apperently he was more important cause he was gonna wipe a whole peoples out
 
Originally posted by: SpiderX
Okay I'm sick of these Iraq threads and don't really wanna start another, but I've got a question.

If Saddam is such a threat to the whole world and needs to be taken out, why didn't Clinton in his 8 years as Pres go after him?
(you can skip the obligatory, he was too busy boffing the interns, etc. 😛)

Not again
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Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
Originally posted by: SpiderX
Okay I'm sick of these Iraq threads and don't really wanna start another, but I've got a question.

If Saddam is such a threat to the whole world and needs to be taken out, why didn't Clinton in his 8 years as Pres go after him?
(you can skip the obligatory, he was too busy boffing the interns, etc. 😛)

Not again
rolleye.gif

What? It's an honest question.

 
Originally posted by: SpiderX
Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Because it would've been political suicide.

So if 9/11 never happened, Bush wouldn't have gone after him?

Hmmm thats a good question, tough to say.

Personally, I would say he wouldn't. He has ties to the oil business and such, hes a Republican which in general usually means they are more willing to commit military force, but I think he would still rather get re-elected. It would've been too hard to sell the war w/o a catastrophic event like 9/11, and maintain popularity at the same time. However, it does do a good job of mascarading an economic recession (which isn't really his fault though, but that matters little to the public). He's already having trouble as it is selling this war. Someone could argue otherwise though, it's all speculation no matter what.

It is fact from liberals and conservatives alike, that Clinton was an opinion poll freak. People really love to hate on Clinton or hate on Bush, but I'd say they are doing what most politicians would do for the most part.
 
bush is only goin after him now cuz he cant find osama and the 'war on terrorism' is like, way over budget so they gotta spend the money on something

oh by the way, starting threads about iraq means you support terrorism
 
i really think clinton was afraid of anything that could endanger him politically...i get the feeling bush doesnt worry so much about that...which I like
 
Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Originally posted by: SpiderX
Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Because it would've been political suicide.

So if 9/11 never happened, Bush wouldn't have gone after him?

Hmmm thats a good question, tough to say.

Personally, I would say he wouldn't. He has ties to the oil business and such, hes a Republican which in general usually means they are more willing to commit military force, but I think he would still rather get re-elected. It would've been too hard to sell the war w/o a catastrophic event like 9/11, and maintain popularity. He's already having trouble as it is. Someoen could argue otherwise, it's all speculation no matter what.


See I'm Canadian, and don't really keep up with politics. Just isn't my thing. But to me it just seems a little to convenient that he's going after Saddam. It seems like he's trying to finish Sr.'s war. The way I see it is, the American public may feel vulnerable after 9/11, maybe even that the Gov't let them down by not protecting them. And this is his way of trying to boost his popularity and public confidence for a second term.

I'm not saying that Saddam is a good guy or that he should be left alone. It just seems like one minute it was the search for Bin Laden and the next it's we have to get rid of Saddam.
 
See I'm Canadian, and don't really keep up with politics. Just isn't my thing. But to me it just seems a little to convenient that he's going after Saddam. It seems like he's trying to finish Sr.'s war. The way I see it is, the American public may feel vulnerable after 9/11, maybe even that the Gov't let them down by not protecting them. And this is his way of trying to boost his popularity and public confidence for a second term.

I'm not saying that Saddam is a good guy or that he should be left alone. It just seems like one minute it was the search for Bin Laden and the next it's we have to get rid of Saddam.

Hey. No doubts that this war partially involves oil and Bush Sr. Not that those are the main or only reasons, but I'd sure say they play a factor. And yes, the American public does feel vulnerable and Bush is riding it as any politician would and even should do. It's just a good time politically to sell the Iraq war right now.

Like I said. I don't see Bush as Mr. Evil that only wants oil but nor do I seem him a Mr. Altruistic wanting to liberate the people of Iraq. However, I'd say its a combination of everything (oil, Bush Sr., dictator, threat to US, economy, freedome, etc. etc.) Thats what politics is all about IMO. Take everything into account and deciding the best of course of action, and thats why I like this stuff. =) It's interesting to analyze situations and see how people will act.

The main reason I'm pro-war is simply because taking into account all the positives and negatives, I'd say the world would be a better place w/o Saddam and the Iraqi people would have better lives (despite being ruled by a puppet American government).
 
Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
See I'm Canadian, and don't really keep up with politics. Just isn't my thing. But to me it just seems a little to convenient that he's going after Saddam. It seems like he's trying to finish Sr.'s war. The way I see it is, the American public may feel vulnerable after 9/11, maybe even that the Gov't let them down by not protecting them. And this is his way of trying to boost his popularity and public confidence for a second term.

I'm not saying that Saddam is a good guy or that he should be left alone. It just seems like one minute it was the search for Bin Laden and the next it's we have to get rid of Saddam.

Hey. No doubts that this war partially involves oil and Bush Sr. Not that those are the main or only reasons, but I'd sure say they play a factor. And yes, the American public does feel vulnerable and Bush is riding it as any politician would and even should do. It's just a good time politically to sell the Iraq war right now.

Like I said. I don't see Bush as Mr. Evil that only wants oil but nor do I seem him a Mr. Altruistic wanting to liberate the people of Iraq. However, I'd say its a combination of everything (oil, Bush Sr., dictator, threat to US, economy, freedome, etc. etc.) Thats what politics is all about IMO. Take everything into account and deciding the best of course of action, and thats why I like this stuff. =) It's interesting to analyze situations and see how people will act.

The main reason I'm pro-war is simply because taking into account all the positives and negatives, I'd say the world would be a better place w/o Saddam and the Iraqi people would have better lives (despite being ruled by a puppet American government).


That makes sense to me. Thanks for your insight Grim, I appreciate it.
 
the record clearly shows american forces under Clinton enforced the no-fly zone over a hundred times with force. Perhaps he was giving the UN the opportunity to do their job, perhaps he was worried about getting the same repsonse Bush is right now internationally. Besides the economy BOOMED while he was in office, I don't think he was willing to risk destabilizing that over Iraq while they were clearly contained.
 
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