YAFRT - Yet another fake rage thread.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...lly-commit-more-crime/?utm_term=.b8fd24e6df97
When will you admit that it is more likely someone would be killed by a natural born citizen? You know that means if we have MORE undocumented immigrants than citizens we would be technically safer?
Yes it is a stupid argument, but then again so is yours. Should we start posting every crime committed by a citizen as a counter point? Of course not, it's not valid, it's just a fake way to incite rage. Oh wait, that's just doing what your liar in chief does too....
Interesting article.
The first set of numbers has some limitations, in that crime is often committed within one's own community. So crime committed by illegal immigrants, is frequently against the same. So, reporting and subsequent cooperation of witnesses with police can skew the conviction number vs the actual crime numbers. Though there's parts of the US in which native born citizens will also not report/cooperate (Baltimore City homicide clearance rate anyone?). I am not sure it would shift in either direction (or how much) if there was a way to control for it, but it is something to keep in mind.
The second set of numbers (state level immigration vs crime levels) also suffers a bit. Crime is also often higher in urban areas vs state as a whole, immigration can also vary among urban vs suburban/rural areas, so I am not sure comparing state level gets the whole picture either. Baltimore City vs County crime rates again are a close example for me (they're widely apart). Both would get lumped under MD, but are quite distinct in both population makeup and crime numbers. But, there's a noticeable trend there that's hard to dismiss when you look at all the states.
I (personally) think immigration is inevitable to support our changing age distribution (getting older and having less kids) at least until significantly more automation of manual labor is done. Some form of immigration reform that expands the legal route, but still screens an individual for criminal history and future likelihood for criminal behavior similar to how employment background checks are done would be better than lumping all immigrants together based on where they are coming from. In my background check for work, it looked not only for whether or not I did something, but they also look at how old the person was, how long ago was it, was it violent or nonviolent, etc. Someone that screwed up young, but kept themselves out of trouble for a while would likely be lower risk than a person who was older or more recently convicted.