YAHDTVT: Help me decide??

Fiat1

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If you could get This for lets' say $1,999.00 with local pickup would it be considered a good deal?

Ok, I pulled the trigger it will be here on Sunday. I know that I will not be disappointed.
Delivered price $2,189.99
 
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That's a great price for the set if you like plasma - Panasonic sets are among the best plasma TVs - but I suggest you view before buying. I find plasma sets have unacceptable screen-door effect, making everything look very aliased.
 

Fiat1

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Originally posted by: DonVito
That's a great price for the set if you like plasma - Panasonic sets are among the best plasma TVs - but I suggest you view before buying. I find plasma sets have unacceptable screen-door effect, making everything look very aliased.


But don't they all show screen-door effect if you view two close?
 
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Originally posted by: Fiat1
Originally posted by: DonVito
That's a great price for the set if you like plasma - Panasonic sets are among the best plasma TVs - but I suggest you view before buying. I find plasma sets have unacceptable screen-door effect, making everything look very aliased.


But don't they all show screen-door effect if you view two close?

DLP sets don't - there is actually slight overlap between the pixels. I don't find the screen-door effect noticeable on the SXRD sets (though others do), and it doesn't bother me on CRTs because the pixels are staggered rather than being in a grid.
 

DCFife

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I just picked up the 42" version of that TV earlier this week and it's visually stunning. The colors are awesome, HD is creamy smooth, and regular cable broadcasts are more than acceptable. I haven't noticed any screen-door effect. I say go for it if you're looking for a plasma.
 

MrChad

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I have the 42 inch version of that TV and I've been very satisfied. I would pick that up in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Don't get a plasma - get something that wont burn in.

Plasmas are hardly susceptible to burn in these days. Stop spreading FUD.
 
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Originally posted by: MrChad

Plasmas are hardly susceptible to burn in these days. Stop spreading FUD.

I wouldn't go THAT far. Our 42" Panny at work had significant burn-in within a month of installation from being left on C-SPAN of all things. I agree burn-in isn't a big issue for most users - it's easy to prevent it with a reasonable degree of care - but plasma is definitely susceptible to it, and most other technologies have no susceptibility whatsoever.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: MrChad

Plasmas are hardly susceptible to burn in these days. Stop spreading FUD.

I wouldn't go THAT far. Our 42" Panny at work had significant burn-in within a month of installation from being left on C-SPAN of all things. I agree burn-in isn't a big issue for most users - it's easy to prevent it with a reasonable degree of care - but plasma is definitely susceptible to it, and most other technologies have no susceptibility whatsoever.

The problem is greatly exaggerated and the risk can be easily mitigated by allowing for a proper break-in period and calibrating the brightness and contrast settings properly.

I wouldn't consider having C-SPAN on for 8 hours a day normal usage for the average home user.
 
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Originally posted by: MrChad

The problem is greatly exaggerated and the risk can be easily mitigated by allowing for a proper break-in period and calibrating the brightness and contrast settings properly.

I wouldn't consider having C-SPAN on for 8 hours a day normal usage for the average home user.

I don't know that we're in dispute - I myself said I didn't think this was a big deal, and I certainly concede that our use at work is different than most home users, but plasma is undeniably susceptible to burn-in, whereas DLP and LCD (both DV and RPTV) will never, ever burn in, even if they're left on a test pattern for weeks at a stretch. Other things being equal I'd rather not have to worry about burn-in at all, but that issue alone wouldn't dissaude me from getting a plasma set if I liked it otherwise.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: MrChad

The problem is greatly exaggerated and the risk can be easily mitigated by allowing for a proper break-in period and calibrating the brightness and contrast settings properly.

I wouldn't consider having C-SPAN on for 8 hours a day normal usage for the average home user.

I don't know that we're in dispute - I myself said I didn't think this was a big deal, and I certainly concede that our use at work is different than most home users, but plasma is undeniably susceptible to burn-in, whereas DLP and LCD (both DV and RPTV) will never, ever burn in, even if they're left on a test pattern for weeks at a stretch. Other things being equal I'd rather not have to worry about burn-in at all, but that issue alone wouldn't dissaude me from getting a plasma set if I liked it otherwise.

No, we're not in dispute. My issue is with unqualified statements like "Plasmas will burn-in" (which Cattlegod seemed to imply earlier). If you care for your set properly, it's not anything you should have to worry about.
 

Ramma2

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Panasonic plasma yes!

I've got the 42" of that model, and love it. Don't listen to the burn in fear mongers, just turn down the picture (brightness setting) from the default and don't watch a channel with an opaque logo (CSPAN) for a month solid and you'll be fine.

 

Cattlegod

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Originally posted by: MrChad
I have the 42 inch version of that TV and I've been very satisfied. I would pick that up in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Don't get a plasma - get something that wont burn in.

Plasmas are hardly susceptible to burn in these days. Stop spreading FUD.


can newer plasmas still burn in?, yes or no.
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Originally posted by: MrChad
I have the 42 inch version of that TV and I've been very satisfied. I would pick that up in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
Don't get a plasma - get something that wont burn in.

Plasmas are hardly susceptible to burn in these days. Stop spreading FUD.


can newer plasmas still burn in?, yes or no.
Yes, burn in is still a factor with plasmas.
 

jtvang125

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: MrChad

The problem is greatly exaggerated and the risk can be easily mitigated by allowing for a proper break-in period and calibrating the brightness and contrast settings properly.

I wouldn't consider having C-SPAN on for 8 hours a day normal usage for the average home user.

I don't know that we're in dispute - I myself said I didn't think this was a big deal, and I certainly concede that our use at work is different than most home users, but plasma is undeniably susceptible to burn-in, whereas DLP and LCD (both DV and RPTV) will never, ever burn in, even if they're left on a test pattern for weeks at a stretch. Other things being equal I'd rather not have to worry about burn-in at all, but that issue alone wouldn't dissaude me from getting a plasma set if I liked it otherwise.


Actually I've seen a few LCD monitors (not TVs) here at work with minor to moderate burn in from leave a static image on day in and day out.