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[Vegito]

Originally posted by: KC5AV

Originally posted by: shelaby
why do u need it?

Why does it always have to be a matter of need? Can't we have guns just because we are allowed to, and have a desire to? I have 3 shotguns, a rifle, and a handgun that I suppose I don't really need, but I want to have them, and am legally allowed to have them. Can't that just be enough?

Exactly... I have a 700p and lots of my friend ask why... haha.. its not like its illegal.. people go crazy when I go, yeah im gonna go pick up a rifle, etc.. the store sells it, what part of owning a gun is a crime.. using it for illegal purpose is a crime..

 

[DMT]

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976261316.htm

 

[Pocatello]

Originally posted by: DMT
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976261316.htm

$$$$

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: Fingers

Originally posted by: DMT

Originally posted by: Literati
You guys should really start going a little smaller.

That's gotta be tough trying to wave that thing around some suburban mid-size business office building.

Why not go more compact for a cubicle environment?

You can also be original during your rampage. I vote you should go onto the roof of your soon to be ex-employer, throw live grenades in the air, and use your AR's like baseball bats and try to hit them off the building.

Your post just proves your ignorance, this is already a 16" OAL barrel - any shorter and I'd need a Form 4

Sometimes you can get the lower reciever reclassified as a pistol. A completely different set of paperwork though. Congrats and I hope you enjoy, I'm still waiting on mine to get in.

Not exactly correct. You can't go from rifle to pistol, but can go from pistol to rifle. The procedure for getting a pistol lower is no different than a rifle lower, it's just how it's filled out on the yellow form at the FFL. If you are buying lower receivers, there is no reason to get them called in as rifles, always go with a handgun, since you can make either a pistol or rifle with it.

 

[DMT]

...but why would I want an AR15 pistol? If I wanted that I'd just buy one from OA.

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: DMT
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976261316.htm

$1300 for one of those? Hmm, that's tempting down the road. I'll probably go for some historica weapons first, though -- M1 Garand ($700), Lee-Enfield ($300-400?), SKS/AK ($300 for quality). I'm also considering scoping my K98k Mauser. It's an awesome weapon, and the iron sights don't do the accuracy any justice. I want to see how far I can hit something.

 

[Amused]

This thread is proof that ignorance of guns, not misuse of them, is the largest threat we face.

Folks, his gun is mechanically the same as most hunting rifles. In fact, it's less powerful than most hunting rifles. It is a SEMI-automatic, small bore (.223-- basically a higher velocity .22 round) rifle.

The main differences are all cosmetic. It's black, it has combat stocks on it and it has a flash suppressor on the tip. NONE of these make it any more dangerous than your typical hunting rifle.

It LOOKS scary, so you react to it like that.

 

[Literati]

Originally posted by: DMT
Your post just proves your ignorance, this is already a 16" OAL barrel - any shorter and I'd need a Form 4

I see you've done your homework.

Ok, fine. This gun is perfectly suitable for an office building rampage. Good luck!

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: Amused
This thread is proof that ignorance of guns, not misuse of them, is the largest threat we face.

Folks, his gun is mechanically the same as most hunting rifles. In fact, it's less powerful than most hunting rifles. It is a SEMI-automatic, small bore (.223-- basically a higher velocity .22 round) rifle.

The main differences are all cosmetic. It's black, it has combat stocks on it and it has a flash suppressor on the tip. NONE of these make it any more dangerous than your typical hunting rifle.

It LOOKS scary, so you react to it like that.

Well remember, the assult weapon ban only "banned" things that made rifles look scary.

BTW if you're in texas.

S.B. No. 1386
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT relating to prohibiting semiautomatic assault weapons; creating an
offense.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Section 46.01, Penal Code, is amended by adding
Subdivision (17) to read as follows:
(17) "Semiautomatic assault weapon" means:
(A) a semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:
(i) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
(ii) a folding or telescoping stock;
(iii) a grenade launcher or flare launcher;
(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor;
(v) a forward pistol grip; or
(vi) a bayonet mount;
(B) a semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:
(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
(ii) a threaded barrel, capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer's hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel;
(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; or
(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm;
(C) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; or
(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine;
(D) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder; and
(E) any of the following firearms, or a copy or duplicate of any of the following firearms, in any caliber:
(i) Norinco, Mitchell, or Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);
(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
(iii) Beretta AR-70;
(iv) Colt AR-15;
(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
(vii) Steyr AUG; or
(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9, and TEC-22.

SECTION 2. Chapter 46, Penal Code, is amended by adding
Section 46.055 to read as follows:
Sec. 46.055. SEMIAUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS PROHIBITED.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person knowingly possesses, manufactures, transports, repairs, sells, or offers to sell a semiautomatic assault weapon.
(b) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor, except that if it is shown on the trial of the offense that the person has been previously convicted of an offense under this section, the offense is a state jail felony.
(c) It is a defense to prosecution under this section that:
(1) the semiautomatic assault weapon is a firearm manufactured before Janurary 1, 1899;
(2) the person lawfully possessed the weapon on August 31, 2005;
(3) the person's conduct was incidental to the performance of an official duty by the armed forces or national guard, a governmental law enforcement agency, or a correctional facility; or
(4) the weapon is one sanctioned by the International Olympic Committee and by USA Shooting and is used solely for competitive target shooting purposes.

SECTION 3. This Act takes effect September 1, 2005.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: DMT
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976261316.htm

$1300 for one of those? Hmm, that's tempting down the road. I'll probably go for some historica weapons first, though -- M1 Garand ($700), Lee-Enfield ($300-400?), SKS/AK ($300 for quality). I'm also considering scoping my K98k Mauser. It's an awesome weapon, and the iron sights don't do the accuracy any justice. I want to see how far I can hit something.

Your prices are a tad high.

You can get a Service Grade M1 from the CMP for $500 or a Rack Grade for $300. Enfields are cheap and plentiful right now anywhere from $100 for a Ishapore FTR rifle to $200 for a US made Savage No.4 Mk.1. The Yugo 55/66 sks abounds right now with prices from $100 - $150.

<--milsurp addict

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Amused
This thread is proof that ignorance of guns, not misuse of them, is the largest threat we face.

Folks, his gun is mechanically the same as most hunting rifles. In fact, it's less powerful than most hunting rifles. It is a SEMI-automatic, small bore (.223-- basically a higher velocity .22 round) rifle.

The main differences are all cosmetic. It's black, it has combat stocks on it and it has a flash suppressor on the tip. NONE of these make it any more dangerous than your typical hunting rifle.

It LOOKS scary, so you react to it like that.

Well remember, the assult weapon ban only "banned" things that made rifles look scary.

.

[/quote]

Yep. It was the most useless law in history. It was akin to banning body kits and external customizing for cars while still allowing powerful engines and fancy interiors.

And the even sadder part? So called "assault weapons" are the least likely guns to be used in a crime.

Those "office rampages" Literati keeps ignorantly bleating about? MOST were carried out with handguns, shot guns, and hunting rifles. Same with school shootings.

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: DMT
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976261316.htm

$1300 for one of those? Hmm, that's tempting down the road. I'll probably go for some historica weapons first, though -- M1 Garand ($700), Lee-Enfield ($300-400?), SKS/AK ($300 for quality). I'm also considering scoping my K98k Mauser. It's an awesome weapon, and the iron sights don't do the accuracy any justice. I want to see how far I can hit something.

Your prices are a tad high.

You can get a Service Grade M1 from the CMP for $500 or a Rack Grade for $300. Enfields are cheap and plentiful right now anywhere from $100 for a Ishapore FTR rifle to $200 for a US made Savage No.4 Mk.1. The Yugo 55/66 sks abounds right now with prices from $100 - $150.

<--milsurp addict

Good to hear! The M1 price was from several gun shows in Texas -- looking to buy a vintage rifle with full markings, not just a shooter. That goes for the others as well (hence why my price for a Mauser would be $400 or so, not $150 that I paid for my "scratch off" mismatched gun). While I'll settle for an SKS, I'm really more interested in an AK, preferably Russian made, pre-ban.

Of course, there's always that FN-FAL that I REALLY want...

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: DMT
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976261316.htm

$1300 for one of those? Hmm, that's tempting down the road. I'll probably go for some historica weapons first, though -- M1 Garand ($700), Lee-Enfield ($300-400?), SKS/AK ($300 for quality). I'm also considering scoping my K98k Mauser. It's an awesome weapon, and the iron sights don't do the accuracy any justice. I want to see how far I can hit something.

Your prices are a tad high.

You can get a Service Grade M1 from the CMP for $500 or a Rack Grade for $300. Enfields are cheap and plentiful right now anywhere from $100 for a Ishapore FTR rifle to $200 for a US made Savage No.4 Mk.1. The Yugo 55/66 sks abounds right now with prices from $100 - $150.

<--milsurp addict

Good to hear! The M1 price was from several gun shows in Texas -- looking to buy a vintage rifle with full markings, not just a shooter. That goes for the others as well (hence why my price for a Mauser would be $400 or so, not $150 that I paid for my "scratch off" mismatched gun). While I'll settle for an SKS, I'm really more interested in an AK, preferably Russian made, pre-ban.

Of course, there's always that FN-FAL that I REALLY want...

Like this FAL perhaps?

With the influx of Russian Capture K98s you can usually find one without pinged markings for about $250. Of course if you want an original (not refinished) that will be closer to your price.

I am currently waiting on a gunsmith to finish my Galil build.
Ooo I can't wait.

 

[classy]

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why an individual needs a weapon like this. But the day is coming that knuckleheads who need substitution for manhood will be stripped of being allowed to own guns that are this dangerous. And please save the hateraid responses, because if you believe that person should own a weapon like this your just plain ignorant.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: classy
There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why an individual needs a weapon like this. But the day is coming that knuckleheads who need substitution for manhood will be stripped of being allowed to own guns that are this dangerous. And please save the hateraid responses, because if you believe that person should own a weapon like this your just plain ignorant.

Same could be said of sports cars.

 

[Fingers]

Originally posted by: classy
There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why an individual needs a weapon like this. But the day is coming that knuckleheads who need substitution for manhood will be stripped of being allowed to own guns that are this dangerous. And please save the hateraid responses, because if you believe that person should own a weapon like this your just plain ignorant.

You obviously don't know anything about guns at all. If you did you would realize all AR15 type weapons are of very small caliber and suck at just about everything but varmint shooting and target practice. Just about every other firearm in the world is more powerfull. The reason most people, at least people like me are interested in them at all is because they are cheap to shoot and you can customize them so much. Other than that they are just a .22LR on steroids.

 

[Literati]

Originally posted by: Amused
Those "office rampages" Literati keeps ignorantly bleating about? MOST were carried out with handguns, shot guns, and hunting rifles. Same with school shootings.

That's exactly what some guy about to go on an office rampage would say!

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Literati

Originally posted by: Amused
Those "office rampages" Literati keeps ignorantly bleating about? MOST were carried out with handguns, shot guns, and hunting rifles. Same with school shootings.

That's exactly what some guy about to go on an office rampage would say!

That's the spirit. Don't let those pesky facts get in the way of a perfectly ignorant position.

 

[Literati]

whoa whoa, slow down buddy.

I'm just joking. It's your right to own a gun and to use it responsibly.

*whispers to everyone else : I only said that so he won't shoot me*

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: ISAslot
no clip, no cookie.

It's not a friggin M1 Garand. Nothing uses actual clips anymore. It's called a magazine.

</soapbox>

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: ISAslot
no clip, no cookie.

It's not a friggin M1 Garand. Nothing uses actual clips anymore. It's called a magazine.

</soapbox>

Repost

- M4H

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: ISAslot
no clip, no cookie.

It's not a friggin M1 Garand. Nothing uses actual clips anymore. It's called a magazine.

</soapbox>

Repost

- M4H

Damn kanuckistanians!

/me swings a fly swatter at M4H

 

[KC5AV]

Originally posted by: classy
There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why an individual needs a weapon like this. But the day is coming that knuckleheads who need substitution for manhood will be stripped of being allowed to own guns that are this dangerous. And please save the hateraid responses, because if you believe that person should own a weapon like this your just plain ignorant.

Ok... we'll over look the hateraid (sic) argument for now. Please re-examine this quote:

Amused
This thread is proof that ignorance of guns, not misuse of them, is the largest threat we face.

Folks, his gun is mechanically the same as most hunting rifles. In fact, it's less powerful than most hunting rifles. It is a SEMI-automatic, small bore (.223-- basically a higher velocity .22 round) rifle.

The main differences are all cosmetic. It's black, it has combat stocks on it and it has a flash suppressor on the tip. NONE of these make it any more dangerous than your typical hunting rifle.

It LOOKS scary, so you react to it like that.

Just because you and others like you don't think we should be allowed to have them doesn't make it so. It's funny how those on this board who fear guns always pull out the tired old argument that we 'need substitution for manhood' because we enjoy shooting sports. A large number of women enjoy shooting sports, too. Do they need guns to substitute for their femininity? Maybe they need guns because they don't have a penis. That must be it. I'm sure there are plenty of homosexuals that enjoy shooting as well. I wonder what they are trying to substitute? It seems to me that you are the one who is ignorant.