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YagT: Think of the childrens...

etrigan420

etrigan420

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Ok, so I know this thread is going to go "Full Retard" with a quickness, but I'm hoping before it degrades into "Neckbeard Beatdown Fest Double1" I can get some input:

Am thinking about purchasing my first hand gun, it's main purpose will be shooting the fuck out of targets. I fucking hate targets. All paper and smug and shit. They need to pay for what they've done.

Plus I turned 40 last month and I can feel the "mid-life" juices flowing a bit.

Anywho...

It also occurred to me that this weapon *might* serve the secondary purpose of home defense

*IF* (<---you see how big that "if" is?)

I can figure out a way to properly configure the gun to make it home defense useable. Standing against that principle I submit that I have 4 kids. 18f (no, you will most certainly *not* get pics...you fucking pervs), 10m, 5f...and, wait for it...4m (hereafter referred to as "Oops")

18 year old - Not even worried about her. She's shown some interest, so I might take her to the range and teach her how to shoot. She's probably moving on here shortly to go rack up some student debt or something...whatever it is that kids do these days.
10 year old - Not too worried about him either. He's expressed interest so I think he might be my shootin' buddy. At the very least he will be taught proper handgun safety and etiquette.

Here's where it gets tricky...the 5 year old and Oops are a combination of the most inquisitive, accident prone, inadvertant self-mutilators I have ever experienced. If there are stairs, they will climb up them, and fall down them. A second story window? We'll just push that screen out and hang my leg over the side to get a look at the landing zone and a feel for the windage (true story).

So those are the two I'm worried about. To keep the gun in a home defense configuration, and *also* keep it safe from them. Is it possible? Will I have to "configure" it every night, then "re-safe" it every morning? That probably wouldn't be worth it to me honestly. I'd just end up keeping it in the safe, thus negating it's HD usage...but whatever. As stated above, paper-death will be the weapons main purpose, and I'm okay if it has to remain it's only use.

I know that they make safe-type things for the nightstand...Oops *would* get into them. Oops once "played a game" over a t-line modem and almost destroyed civilization as we know it. (Not a true story)

TLDR; I'm looking for a firearm solution / configuration that is quick and accessable enough to serve in a home defense role, but I have small hoodlums who I'm afraid would get into them and point them sideways.

Help me ATOT, you're my only hope.

If it matters, here's what I'll probably be getting (in .40 S&W):
http://hk-usa.com/civilian_products/usp_general.asp
...no time soon mind you. Going to go next week and apply for my CWP, might be purchasing the gun around end of next week, beginning of following week.

Soooo, yeah...there it is.
 
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http://www.electronicgunsafes.net/
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Get a crossbow, a young child wouldn't have the strength to pull back the string.

I am also interested in your hatred for targets, what did they ever do to you?
 
jruchko said:
I am also interested in your hatred for targets, what did they ever do to you?
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Them and their other paper cousins slice open your fingers when you least expect it. You're just minding your own business and WHAM! Drive by papercut. They've hurt him, his family, and his friends. Now its his turn for payback.
 
If you are primarily interested in punching holes in paper in large numbers, you might want to think about a 9mm over a .40 as you can generally find much cheaper ammo in 9mm. I know if I was in the market for a pistol today, I would be hard pressed to ignore 9mm. In fact, the expense of feeding my .45s has had me extremely close to picking up a 9mm lately.
 
JDMnAR1 said:
If you are primarily interested in punching holes in paper in large numbers, you might want to think about a 9mm over a .40 as you can generally find much cheaper ammo in 9mm. I know if I was in the market for a pistol today, I would be hard pressed to ignore 9mm. In fact, the expense of feeding my .45s has had me extremely close to picking up a 9mm lately.
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9 mil is great for target plinking and is still plenty powerful enough to stop a person.
.40 is a bit more expensive for ammo and definitely has enough stopping power.
.45 is great for people with small penises.
 
rudeguy said:
9 mil is great for target plinking and is still plenty powerful enough to stop a person.
.40 is a bit more expensive for ammo and definitely has enough stopping power.
.45 is great for people with small penises.
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You must have experience with a lot of penises to be able to make that correlation.
 
No pics, no help. You selfish bastege. 🙂

I think a 9mil would be more then sufficient for you target shooting and midlife/home defense needs. A well placed shot with a 9mil will stop an intruder. Target practice will help with this so you get the best of both worlds. Just make the practice count and don't try to splatter melons on the range.

For the youngins' I would recommend low profile first off. What they don't know will hurt them so keep it that way. Out of sight out of mind. If you must have security on your fire arm then get a lock box. If you want a home defense weapon you want it accessible.
 
Thanks for all the replies:

Those Gunvaults are *nice*, and inexpensive...looks like exactly what I'll need. Tip of the hat and a low bow to the gentlemen pointing me in their direction.

On the 9MM vs. .40S&W debate...I thought about going with a 9mm, then even buying a .22 top rail for *that*. That would be a very inexpensive "Paper Retribution" set up. Then I found out that I have a good buddy that does all his own reloading...so .40 it is then, but nothing is really out of the question at this point....he's even got a Browning Hi-Power that he wants me to throw a few down range with. He's kind of a weird cat...lots of guns...walls, closets, beds, and tupperware bins full of (mostly wheel) guns.

Anyway, he's supposed to get some nice "plastic fantastics" from a buddy of *his* and we'll take them up into the mountains...the guns...god that sounded very "Deliverance" right there...

Off the top of my head:
CZ 75b
Colt Commander
Browning Hi-Power
H&K .40 USP
Glock 19
S&W M&Pc 9mm
I think there might be an XDm compact in there too...and a Baretta of some sort...I kind of last track honestly...I think there's a Ruger in there somewhere...and more revolvers than you could shake a stick at...literally. Unless it was a big ass stick...then maybe you're good.

Anywho, plan is to go kill some paper next week sometime to get a good idea of which caliber will enable me to survive the paper hoards once they start, after that I'll swing by the local PD and put in my CCW paperwork, then go buy by end of next week!

I'll keep everyone informed on how it goes!

To The Pervs: She's upstairs playing LoL...I don't even know what that is...

To Neckarb: No reason we can't have a civil discussion about it...if you want to.

To everyone else: Thanks for the suggestions. 🙂
 
telling these guys your 18 year old daughter is playing League of Legends is probably not a good way to avoid the "pics?" posts.
 
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