YAGT: The Irony of Attraction

gjeste

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Whoever said that girls weren't that girls didnt care that much about a guy's appearances was wrong.

It's been said that girls don't care as much about appearances as guys do (in the opposite gender) and that a girl just wants a guy who is a good friend to them, talks to them, and is there for them. It was said you could be an average looking man and get a hot looking woman if you were a good gentleman to her.

Whoever said that was wrong. All the girls that I find really attractive are not that interested in return towards me, infact any girl that I find reasonably attractive doesnt show any signs of interest in return.

How the heck am I supposed to get an attractive wife? What do I lack? I have money, I'm pretty smart, I'm pretty bold, I talk to girls, I try not to act desperate, I've been told that I'm not that bad looking. (I was told that I was average looking by one girl)

It's ironic, awhile ago I used to look a lot better, back when I lifted regularly, deprived myself of carbs, and ran my butt off every single morning. I did that for a summer and it sucked, the lowest I got was 9% bodyfat. But I used to get a few looks, whistles, and more attention back then, and now I dont seem to get any at all. Back then I had another hangup that was stopping me from getting a hot girl (I had social anxiety) now most of that is gone, but I still can't seem to get a girl!

Now that I'm in college, and more busy, its harder to stay in as good shape. I try to eat healthy (which is hard with cafeteria food) and I manage to do cardio 5 days a week, but lifting has been something I havent been able to make myself do for about a year now (it just really sucks). I'm not fat or anything, I just dont have an impressive build anymore, and probably not that much of an attractive face, i dunno the face is kinda hard to measure.

Next year, I'm thinking about living off campus and on my own. (so i can finally eat healthy for once, and not have cafeteria deserts, or the deserts back at my house, to tempt me) the only problem is that if i live off campus I'll not be as socially linked to everything, which also might disadvantage me in the chick-pickup game.

My goal is not to get laid, I really dont care to do that before I meet the woman that I know I'm going to spend the rest of my life with. I just want a girlfriend, something I have never had before. I am 20 years old and have just not had one. in highschool it was because i didnt know how to socialize and i didnt look good enough, then it was the social anxiety, and now its because my looks have faded, and no girls seem to be showing signs of interest.

So, should I drop the standards and get a woman who is not as attractive,
or should I just not bother getting a woman because it wouldnt be worth it if I'm not attracted to her,

Or should I raise my own status to get a hotter girl (I think I would need to raise more than my appearances though, because I know that girls are pretty picky creatures) they want it all: the man with a super eventful life, popular, a good group of friends, tons of hobbies and interests and talents and awards and status and abilities, smoothness in conversation and building relationships like none other, the money, and of course lets not forget that he has to look good at whatever the cost -cuz i think whoever made up that myth that girls dont care about that, i think was lying.

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cliff notes:

* girls dont dig me, especially the hot ones that I'm intested in, maybe its cuz im not super duper good-looking.
darn! that sucks!
* whats wrong? could I be lacking something else, besides that fact that I'm average looking. I have money, can socialize, try not to be desperate, am bold, etc. I be myself around girls in every way that i possibly can.
* what should I do? Continue hunting for hotties, drop the standards, not bother with girls at all, or try to boost myself into the league that is good enough for the hotties?
*what would I have to do to get into a league that is good enough for the hotties?
 

Jzero

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I thought you gave up. Do we need GoodDad to come in here and pay you off like he did for dvdrdiscs?
 

Coquito

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[/quote]


Heh.. a starter girlfriend.[/quote]

A good barebone. No need for extra baggage.
 

Murphy Durphy

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While you say you have confidence, your post makes it sound like you really don't. Girls can see through a front like glass. I'm not very good looking, I've always been described as "So Cute" instead of "So Hot". But yet, I have a personality that can pull the greatest A-game in the area and I can only contribute that to confidence. Dropping your standards might mean you need to stop chasing the A+++ girls, but it shouldn't mean that you settle for someone your not happy with. Don't worry, you'll stumble upon someone sometime someday. ;)
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Another Skywalker?

It's no secret that he is skywalker66. I'm not sure why he's allowed to get away with it. Maybe pity stays the mods' hands. He's like our own little Smeagol.

Good Smeagol.
 

dr150

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Well that last paragraph IMHO seems to profile American women pretty well. In Europe, loks, status, money, "what have you done for me lately" doesn't apply not even nearly as much.

I have average looking (at best) white friends in Europe and Asia who have very beautiful mates. It's certainly more dicey here in the States.

In any case, you don't want to be with a gal who shuns you or is an immature brat. Their looks will fade right qucik so they have nothing to turn their noses up on you.

Working out and dressing well will certainly advance your chances. When you find a girl you click with (profiling is important), flirt at the outset when you feel comfortable enough with her. This will keep you from her pigeonholing you as a friend and more like "that guy likes me"...........Women love being pursued as long as its tastefully done. Letting her shamelessly know you're interested and buying little things like chocolate, etc, will earn you some points............Eventually they'll come around once you've softened them up a bit..........Most all do! ;)



<----------Advice comes from a major player who married a blonde German babe. ;)
 

KarenMarie

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read the 1st sentence, thought...wtf?.. looked for cliff notes... found none, and gave up interest.

:)
 

gjeste

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Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Originally posted by: gjeste

So, should I drop the standards and get a woman who is not as attractive,


Heh.. a starter girlfriend.

I've thought about doing this, because I know that you immediately become more attractive once you can say you've already had one girlfriend in your life. Who knows why shallow girls seem to fall for this.

But frankly I cant pull myself to go out there and get a girlfriend just for the sake of a "starter girlfriend" I dont want to user her like that, that would be mean. I guess I will stay a lonely man then.
 

hdeck

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you're wrong. i've seen a lot of unattractive guys with hot girlfriends and thought to myself "wow how did he get her." your problem is you are looking for somewhere to marry. you are way too young to be worrying about that. what college do you go to? back when i first started i had zero trouble getting good grades with hardly any studying and had plenty of time just hanging out. it seems as though you are looking for reasons you are finding a girl. you need to stop worrying about being rejected and stop worrying about negative consequences. you only go through life once so stop hiding at your computer desk and go live a little.
 

nativesunshine

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I think we need some proof of your "averageness" to decide.

girls might go for average guys...but they won't go for ugly ones.

but...hey...who am i to talk...i dated an ugly dude for 2 years.

::shrugs::
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Get a ring. Percieved to be married = attraction.

Fvcked up isn't it? A few years ago (I was 20 at the time) I bought a simple white gold wedding band as an experiment. A friend of mine was married and chicks were usually all over him. We decided to see how much of it was in the ring. I can't say exactly how much more tail I pulled but it was certainly more than usual. I was pulling at a pretty respectable level before the ring too. If you have no other game, get a ring. It's foolproof. There's my how-to-get-ass tip of the week for you guys ;)
 

gjeste

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Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Getting a girl can't be this hard, can it be?


Oh.. look whose talking.

exactly,

so as you can see I need a little help here!
Am I really that hopeless? I want to keep trying and pursue on. I dont know about you guys but I believe that I can pull this off, I mean eventually its going to get narrowed down to a fork in the road, and choosing between two paths, And I will just have to pick which one I think is best (probably the one that involves getting a girlfriend by doing what it takes, within reason)
 

gjeste

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Originally posted by: fyleow
You promised us no more YAGTs dude, what happened? :(

my hormones got the best of me. this drive inside me wont rest until I'm satisfied. I will go down to the grave striving for this, if I have to.