YAGT: suspicious that my best friend's husband is cheating on her... UPDATE: cheating practically confirmed...

ajayjuneja

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Hey all,

So one of my best friends (we'll call her "Melissa" -- not real name) received an email from her hubby (we'll call him "Sam" -- not his real name) while he was supposedly at work on Thursday, that "Oh BTW, I'm having lunch with Elle (not her real name) today." at the last min. "Elle" is her hubby's ex-wife, who I've noticed in bar room conversations with him he is undeniably still attached to (at least in the emotional sense).

So the Hubby is in Law school and working at a law firm part time, so yes, he theorectically shouldn't be around that much... and my friend already complains that she's in "a time starved relationship." Given she has been vocal of these concerns many many times, I wonder why the hubby feels a need to connect with his *ex-wife* rather than his *current wife* at lunch time.

I should also note, that when I was helping Melissa move some things this week into their new house, we cleaned out Sam's closet and found a ton of shirts that Elle had given him (Elle is from India, so all the Indian shirts are obviously from her), and when Melissa has complained to Sam not to wear stuff that Elle gave him... Sam complains like a child "But she [Elle] *gave* them to me..." in a very whiny type of voice.

Sam was with his Elle for 14 years, and has been with his current wife for about 6 months (with 9 months of dating before that).

Sam is showing a lot of signs of potential cheating in my book -- he leaves the house at 6am, comes back home at 11pm - midnight during the week, and only spends the weekends really with "Melissa." Given the number of hours in there, there's ample time in there for him to get some lunch-time nookie from his ex-wife (who I should note is extremely needy).

Cliff notes:
Wife receives email from husband that he is going to have lunch with his ex-wife last thursday.
Wife hasn't seen husband all week due to him being in law school + working. Why not have lunch with her?
Husband has been noticed to show major emotional attachment to ex-wife in past.

Me = best friend of wife. Wondering if husband is cheating on her with his ex-wife, who he seems to have refused to break off contact with after numerous requests from current wife.

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What's the best way to verify whether this is or isn't happening? Melissa's a great gal, and doesn't deserve this...


Edit.... poll added.

Edit, more information:

Originally posted by: Klixxer

If he had been boning his Ex wife he wouldn't have told wifey that he is going to have lunch with Ex.

When he starts dressing up and lying about where he is going she can start to worry.

Oh, so to add to that, Sam HAS lied about a few things....

1. He claims he was "at the office" when he was actually visiting Elle on the way home from work (Melissa caught him doing that several times... ) He claims they were "discussing patents..." (Melissa is super smart, he could discuss that stuff with HER...).

2. He lies about Elle calling him, sometimes pretending it's his mom he's talking to.

3. He sends email to Elle from work to avoid Melissa noticing contact with her.

4. He hides gifts / cards / letters from Elle. Since he's so busy, Melissa has stumbled into them on at least three occasions that I recall.

5. He claims that Elle is his "best friend." (Shouldn't he regard his current wife as one.. he doesn't.)
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UPDATE:

Sam looks FUBARED - Melissa ran into one of Sam's credit card bills from May, and:

$330 for opera tickets for an opera on June 9th... billed to his credit card on may 28th.
AND
June 9th is Elle's (ex-wife) birthday.

Melissa asked Sam about the tickets...

and Sam said:

"Oh, I sold them to the admin. at work because I was mad at you that week." (they had a minor fight the week before, but were recovered the next day).

Also, Melissa and Sam went to an opera that friday (June 11th), and a seminar on "how to get the most out of operas" on tuesday (June 8th). Why would you go to an opera twice in one week?

in addition Melissa said, "okay, Sam, if you sold them, please show me the receipt documenting that and the emails regarding the sale." (gives him a chance to prove the statement he made, if that really was true.

Melissa then reminded Sam twice about providing the documentation of the sale, and Sam hasn't followed through, and is acting all lovey-dovey in hopes that Melissa forgets this.

 

NakaNaka

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I don't know if there is physical cheating - but something is definitely messed up in this relationship.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Vaerilis
And the conclusion is?

He goes to law school full time and works at a law firm part time. That right there is easily 100 hours a week. So leaving at 6am and not coming home until 11pm isnt unreasonable. As for the other stuff, he was with someone for 14 years, of course theres still going to be some sort of attachment.
 

ajayjuneja

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Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
He's hittin that six ways to sunday

Does that mean he's just trying to get nookie with both?

No, I'm not going to sleep with Melissa, that would be bad (and risk ruining a good friendship!)
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: ajayjuneja
Hey all,

So one of my best friends (we'll call her "Melissa" -- not real name) received an email from her hubby (we'll call him "Sam" -- not his real name) while he was supposedly at work on Thursday, that "Oh BTW, I'm having lunch with Elle (not her real name) today." at the last min. "Elle" is her hubby's ex-wife, who I've noticed in bar room conversations with him he is undeniably still attached to (at least in the emotional sense).

So the Hubby is in Law school and working at a law firm part time, so yes, he theorectically shouldn't be around that much... and my friend already complains that she's in "a time starved relationship." Given she has been vocal of these concerns many many times, I wonder why the hubby feels a need to connect with his *ex-wife* rather than his *current wife* at lunch time.

I should also note, that when I was helping Melissa move some things this week into their new house, we cleaned out Sam's closet and found a ton of shirts that Elle had given him (Elle is from India, so all the Indian shirts are obviously from her), and when Melissa has complained to Sam not to wear stuff that Elle gave him... Sam complains like a child "But she [Elle] *gave* them to me..." in a very whiny type of voice.

Sam was with his Elle for 14 years, and has been with his current wife for about 6 months (with 9 months of dating before that).

Sam is showing a lot of signs of potential cheating in my book -- he leaves the house at 6am, comes back home at 11pm - midnight during the week, and only spends the weekends really with "Elle." Given the number of hours in there, there's ample time in there for him to get some lunch-time nookie from his ex-wife (who I should note is extremely needy).

Cliff notes:
Wife receives email from husband that he is going to have lunch with his ex-wife last thursday.
Wife hasn't seen husband all week due to him being in law school + working. Why not have lunch with her?
Husband has been noticed to show major emotional attachment to ex-wife in past.

Me = best friend of wife. Wondering if husband is cheating on her with his ex-wife, who he seems to have refused to break off contact with after numerous requests from current wife.

-------------------------------------------------------

What's the best way to verify whether this is or isn't happening? Melissa's a great gal, and doesn't deserve this...


Edit.... poll added.

If he had been boning his Ex wife he wouldn't have told wifey that he is going to have lunch with Ex.

When he starts dressing up and lying about where he is going she can start to worry.
 

ajayjuneja

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Originally posted by: Klixxer

If he had been boning his Ex wife he wouldn't have told wifey that he is going to have lunch with Ex.

When he starts dressing up and lying about where he is going she can start to worry.


Oh, so to add to that, Sam HAS lied about a few things....

1. He claims he was "at the office" when he was actually visiting Elle on the way home from work (Melissa caught him doing that several times... ) He claims they were "discussing patents..." (Melissa is super smart, he could discuss that stuff with HER...).

2. He lies about Elle calling him, sometimes pretending it's his mom he's talking to.

3. He sends email to Elle from work to avoid Melissa noticing contact with her.

4. He hides gifts / cards / letters from Elle. Since he's so busy, Melissa has stumbled into them on at least three occasions that I recall.

5. He claims that Elle is his "best friend." (Shouldn't he regard his current wife as one.. he doesn't.)
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: ajayjuneja
Originally posted by: Klixxer

If he had been boning his Ex wife he wouldn't have told wifey that he is going to have lunch with Ex.

When he starts dressing up and lying about where he is going she can start to worry.


Oh, so to add to that, Sam HAS lied about a few things....

1. He claims he was "at the office" when he was actually visiting Elle on the way home from work (Melissa caught him doing that several times... ) He claims they were "discussing patents..." (Melissa is super smart, he could discuss that stuff with HER...).

2. He lies about Elle calling him, sometimes pretending it's his mom he's talking to.

3. He sends email to Elle from work to avoid Melissa noticing contact with her.

4. He hides gifts / cards / letters from Elle. Since he's so busy, Melissa has stumbled into them on at least three occasions that I recall.

5. He claims that Elle is his "best friend." (Shouldn't he regard his current wife as one.. he doesn't.)

Now that is a bit different, he is definently boning his ex.

She may not WANT to realize that and there isn't much you can do about it more than being her friend and being by her side.

Good luck to the both of you and if you should get a bit drunk and pound that husband into the ground one night, don't worry about it, it was justified.
 

ajayjuneja

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: BigJ
Hire a PI?

This is probably the best advice ever given in a YAGT.....


So like, I can't go do that, right? I have to convince Melissa that. And just like Klixxer said, she may not *want to* realize that he is cheating.
 

ajayjuneja

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Originally posted by: brunswickite
Did your friend ask for you advice on the situation? Where are you drawing all these conclusions?

Yes, she asked for advice on Thursday. a few hours before we saw the "Hi., I'm having lunch with my ex." email.

I said I was concerned that with all these signs Sam may be cheating on her, but I'm not 100% sure.


edit: whoops used real name for a sec there.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: ajayjuneja
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: BigJ
Hire a PI?

This is probably the best advice ever given in a YAGT.....


So like, I can't go do that, right? I have to convince Melissa that. And just like Klixxer said, she may not *want to* realize that he is cheating.

Sure you can. Neither he nor her would know, hence the name of Private Investigator. Isnt like he wears a big shirt saying "I'm A PI Following You" and walks 3 steps behind the guy all day. PI's are VERY good at what they do (usually)
 

ajayjuneja

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: ajayjuneja
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: BigJ
Hire a PI?

This is probably the best advice ever given in a YAGT.....


So like, I can't go do that, right? I have to convince Melissa that. And just like Klixxer said, she may not *want to* realize that he is cheating.

Sure you can. Neither he nor her would know, hence the name of Private Investigator. Isnt like he wears a big shirt saying "I'm A PI Following You" and walks 3 steps behind the guy all day. PI's are VERY good at what they do (usually)

Would Melissa get mad at me if I did that without telling her? Would you get mad at a friend if you found out they did that?
 

brunswickite

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Originally posted by: ajayjuneja
Originally posted by: brunswickite
Did your friend ask for you advice on the situation? Where are you drawing all these conclusions?

Yes, she asked for advice on Thursday. a few hours before we saw the "Hi., I'm having lunch with my ex." email.

I said I was concerned that with all these signs Steve may be cheating on her, but I'm not 100% sure.


How did she approach you to that? I think its strange for her to ask "I got an email from my husband saying he is having lunch with his ex, What do You think of it?"

I dont think you should jump to conclusions though.

Edit: I read the bottom of your original post. I would be suspicious if all that is true.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: ajayjuneja
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: BigJ
Hire a PI?

This is probably the best advice ever given in a YAGT.....


So like, I can't go do that, right? I have to convince Melissa that. And just like Klixxer said, she may not *want to* realize that he is cheating.

Sure you can. Neither he nor her would know, hence the name of Private Investigator. Isnt like he wears a big shirt saying "I'm A PI Following You" and walks 3 steps behind the guy all day. PI's are VERY good at what they do (usually)

Yeah, hire a PI, lol, that makes sense.

There is no doubt about it and you could probably get him to fess up if you wanted to.

But the thing is that she will not believe it until he fvcks his ex on the dinnertable while she is eating, and even then she might not believe it.

She doesn't want anything to change, let it be and just be there for her, no matter how this pans out that is the best thing you can do, for her sake and for yours, if you insist on trying to prove anything she will hate you as much as her husband.

She will need a friend though, when the sh!t hits the fan, and it will.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: ajayjuneja
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: ajayjuneja
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: BigJ
Hire a PI?

This is probably the best advice ever given in a YAGT.....


So like, I can't go do that, right? I have to convince Melissa that. And just like Klixxer said, she may not *want to* realize that he is cheating.

Sure you can. Neither he nor her would know, hence the name of Private Investigator. Isnt like he wears a big shirt saying "I'm A PI Following You" and walks 3 steps behind the guy all day. PI's are VERY good at what they do (usually)

Would Melissa get mad at me if I did that without telling her? Would you get mad at a friend if you found out they did that?

Think about it, would you be mad? A wild guess says she won't ever talk to you again.