YAGT - Should I buy a "security" shotgun?

[TheNinja]

A folding stock is much different than a pistol grip

I should have said a folding stock with pistol grip. Something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Uncle-Mikes-Mo.../dp/B001AT1RLG

 

[brblx]

lol, some of you have either never fired shotguns or your confidence in your own shooting ability is so horrifyingly weak that you probably shouldn't own firearms, anyway.

when people say 'you don't need to aim a shotgun in the halls of your house,' they're not telling you to point the motherfucker at your feet. if you can't instantly snap into some kind of firing position with the weapon pointed ahead of you, go to the range and practice or sell your shit. when you are inside a typical residential house, during the time of a typical home invasion (night), i would have zero need to close an eye and try and get a proper sight picture. in fact, i'd consider that pretty fucking stupid and a good way to die if the other person is armed.

 

[nick1985]

I should have said a folding stock with pistol grip. Something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Uncle-Mikes-Mo.../dp/B001AT1RLG

I would never own a shotgun with a pistol grip

 

[jupiter57]

Yes, its worth it. Get a red dot scope and you should be ready to go.

Do you ever plan on hunting with the shotgun? If so, consider a 20 inch barrel and a remington 870 or mossberg 500.

If you never plan on using the shotgun for hunting, 18.5 inch barrel and either a mossberg 500, 590 or a remington 870.

The mossberg 590 does not have a removable choke, while the 870 and 500 do.

He's not hunting.
Unless he hunts mice in his parents basement.
Basement dwellers and their fears! I suppose it is somewhat understandable, since there is not typically a back door to escape from in a home invasion.

 

[TheNinja]

And for those asking. I own guns and have shot at least 50 different kinds from BB gun, to .22, to pistols, revolvers, rifles, and shotguns. Plus a few "modified" special guns if you will . I only have 1 shotgun and it's a longgun with wood stock. I want a badass black looking one for home defense and...I'll admit it...the "coolness factor"

 

[JulesMaximus]

lol, some of you have either never fired shotguns or your confidence in your own shooting ability is so horrifyingly weak that you probably shouldn't own firearms, anyway.

when people say 'you don't need to aim a shotgun in the halls of your house,' they're not telling you to point the motherfucker at your feet. if you can't instantly snap into some kind of firing position with the weapon pointed ahead of you, go to the range and practice or sell your shit. when you are inside a typical residential house, during the time of a typical home invasion (night), i would have zero need to close an eye and try and get a proper sight picture. in fact, i'd consider that pretty fucking stupid and a good way to die if the other person is armed.

You just don't get it do you. I'm not talking about "aiming" the shotgun. I'm talking about pointing it, and it is much easier to point a shotgun if it is up against your shoulder. You can crack off 8 shots in xx.xx amount of time with your pistol grip pump, that's great. I bet I could do it faster and more accurately firing from the shoulder with my Winchester 1200.

My shotguns don't even have sights, just a bead at the end of the barrel(s) to help with pointing. I shoot clays with my 20 gauge so I know how to shoulder a shotgun and follow a target. It's a far more useful skill than just blasting a paper target at 10'.

The distance from inside my master bedroom to the top of the stairs is probably a good 20' and it is all open to the diningroom and livingroom below. A shotgun with pistol grip only would be completely useless for me. My shotguns are all locked up in a safe downstairs anyway.

You guys waste far too much time planning for these bullshit scenarios that will never happen.

 

[Howard]

This is 100% wrong. In the distance you are talking, the spread will be smaller than the size of your first. To say you do not have to aim is just flat wrong, you do need to aim.

Blunderbuss shotty?

 

[Sa7aN]

fuck it, i might as well join in on the ridiculous recommendations...... get a SPAS-12

it can switch between pump or semi auto
folding stock so you can swap between pistol grip or full stock
holds 8 rounds with the extension (2-3/4" rounds)
and if all else fails you could beat a grizzly to death with how much it weighs


id actually love to own one

 

[JulesMaximus]

fuck it, i might as well join in on the ridiculous recommendations...... get a SPAS-12

it can switch between pump or semi auto
folding stock so you can swap between pistol grip or full stock
holds 8 rounds with the extension (2-3/4" rounds)
and if all else fails you could beat a grizzly to death with how much it weighs


id actually love to own one

I've shot one of those.

 

[alkemyst]

Once you have given up on getting laid, you may as well prepare for the zombie invasion.

 

[TheNinja]

I should just get this thing - but it's not available yet

18.5" barrel - hold 14...yes 14! shells.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg

 

[alkemyst]

I should just get this thing - but it's not available yet

18.5" barrel - hold 14...yes 14! shells.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/news/preview-kel-tec-shotgun-ksg

It's going to be about $880...the gun has 7 rounds in two selectable tubes. Good for loading two types of ammo.

 

[BudAshes]

Shotguns are the best home defense weapon as a stray bullet is less likely to kill the neighbors kid across the street. Plus you dont have to be as accurate.

 

[shortylickens]

Recommend a 410 with hollow point slugs. Take it to the range and practice until you feel confident. Stray shots wont be an issue.

 

[alkemyst]

Shotguns are the best home defense weapon as a stray bullet is less likely to kill the neighbors kid across the street. Plus you dont have to be as accurate.

except unwieldy and can over penetrate still. 'Not being as accurate' is a misnomer at the distances you will be facing inside a home.

FTMFW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaser_Safety_Slug

 

[nick1985]

Shotguns are the best home defense weapon as a stray bullet is less likely to kill the neighbors kid across the street. Plus you dont have to be as accurate.

The spread on a shotgun for in-home distances is just a few inches at best. You must aim or you will miss terribly.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

I don't really care about this stuff, but if I did I think I'd much rather have a pistol for shooting someone in hallways/close quarter rooms.

 

[nick1985]

I don't really care about this stuff, but if I did I think I'd much rather have a pistol for shooting someone in hallways/close quarter rooms.

Why?

 

[TheNinja]

My take on pistol vs shotgun for HD

Pistol
Pros: smaller, easier to hide/keep by bedside, easier to carry and move around the house, usually holds more ammo and can quickly reload with extra loaded magazines (or are they clips? )

Cons: need to be a very good shot (if you never shot a pistol, they aren't like the movies, it is VERY hard to hit someone every 20 feet away imo), CA laws are a pain on pistols, could be hard to aim/control during stressful times, doesn't look/sound as threatening

Shotgun
Pros: not a single bullet so better chance of hitting, don't have to be as good of aim, the slide action should/will scare the crap out of anyone in the house,

Cons: heavy and harder to keep in/by nightstand, can be trickier to move around the house (in reality I'm not going to be doing a full house sweep anyway, i'm getting the kids and barricade myself in my room. anyone coming through unidentified is getting a face full of the business end of a shotgun). holds less ammo and is slower to reload.

 

[nick1985]

My take on pistol vs shotgun for HD

Pistol
Pros: smaller, easier to hide/keep by bedside, easier to carry and move around the house, usually holds more ammo and can quickly reload with extra loaded magazines (or are they clips? )

Cons: need to be a very good shot (if you never shot a pistol, they aren't like the movies, it is VERY hard to hit someone every 20 feet away imo), CA laws are a pain on pistols, could be hard to aim/control during stressful times, doesn't look/sound as threatening

Shotgun
Pros: not a single bullet so better chance of hitting, don't have to be as good of aim, the slide action should/will scare the crap out of anyone in the house,

Cons: heavy and harder to keep in/by nightstand, can be trickier to move around the house (in reality I'm not going to be doing a full house sweep anyway, i'm getting the kids and barricade myself in my room. anyone coming through unidentified is getting a face full of the business end of a shotgun). holds less ammo and is slower to reload.

 

[squirrel dog]

here's another suggestion ...

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/01/26/at-14-the-410-ar-15-shotgun/

get the 30 round clips,just because.