YAGT: OMG I love guns

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Kyle

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He's been trolling in most threads- posting stupid shit to get people upset
 

teh_pwnerer

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You have no idea what you're talking about. What country are you from?

Might I suggest you not come into a thread entitled "I LOVE GUNS" and try to tell people guns are awful? It's called thread crapping.
I didn't say guns are awful. Don't put words in my mouth.

Guns are a tool.

You guys use them like a toy. Showing them off, playing with them around your house, taking them to the range. Oh brother...

In a situation where you would need to defend yourself the majority of you would freeze up. The ones who would fire would hit the wrong target.
 

Kyle

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I didn't say guns are awful. Don't put words in my mouth.

Guns are a tool.

You guys use them like a toy. Showing them off, playing with them around your house, taking them to the range. Oh brother...

In a situation where you would need to defend yourself the majority of you would freeze up. The ones who would fire would hit the wrong target.

Hmm..don't you think taking them to the range just might help prevent hitting the wrong target? No one here has said anything about playing with them around the house.
 
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teh_pwnerer

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Hmm..don't you think taking them to the range just might help prevent hitting the wrong target? No one here has said anything about playing with them around the house.
What do you shoot at the range cowboy? Bails of hay that don't move with your .22? :awe:
 

Jeeebus

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What do you shoot at the range cowboy? Bails of hay that don't move with your .22? :awe:

Mods... figure out whose alt account this is yet? Interesting how he's calling everyone pussies, but is hiding behind an alt account so as not to sully his regular account name.
 

IGemini

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Just because you guys don't know how to use the ignore list, don't ruin it for those of us who do. Stop feeding the troll.

Well, you can feed him all you want, just stop quoting. :p
 

shortylickens

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Americans are obsessed with guns. A gun is a tool not a toy.

The fact is 99% of gun owners who purchase a gun for self defense would not have the guts to fire on an intruder.

Shooting a gun on a range is one of the dumbest and most pointless things ever. Unless you are actually military and are there for training... waste of time.

So what else do you do with your gun? Flash it around at home? LOL!

A gun should only be used be military personnel, police, and security.

:hmm:
WWYBYWB?
 

IEC

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Americans are obsessed with guns. A gun is a tool not a toy.

The fact is 99% of gun owners who purchase a gun for self defense would not have the guts to fire on an intruder.

Shooting a gun on a range is one of the dumbest and most pointless things ever. Unless you are actually military and are there for training... waste of time.

So what else do you do with your gun? Flash it around at home? LOL!

A gun should only be used be military personnel, police, and security.

1. A gun is a tool that can be used in a way that provides entertainment and training value. See 3-gun.
2. The great majority of gun owners who purchased a gun explicitly for self defense purposes would not hesitate to pull the trigger. I know a few who did not hesitate, and there are a couple of dirtbags six feet under as a result.
3. Shooting a gun on the range is the smartest and best way to improve your skills with firearms, particularly if you are on a range with reactive and moving targets to practice target acquisition and moving target engagement. Most people don't go to the range enough. Also, keep in mind that several members in this thread are former .mil and/or current LEOs...

WWYBYWB?
 

irishScott

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yeah, isn't their cheapest model $5000?

and I thought I read they don't really do anything special that warrants it.

They use special machining technology to get incredibly tight tolerances and uniform fitting. They've bragged (and demonstrated) that you can interchange slides from different models and they'll still function perfectly, no fitting required. In fact there's no hand-fitting throughout the entire process.

Yeah, they're a show piece, but if they're still around in a couple of decades one of their guns may be my midlife crisis buy lol.
 

x-alki

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They use special machining technology to get incredibly tight tolerances and uniform fitting. They've bragged (and demonstrated) that you can interchange slides from different models and they'll still function perfectly, no fitting required. In fact there's no hand-fitting throughout the entire process.

Yeah, they're a show piece, but if they're still around in a couple of decades one of their guns may be my midlife crisis buy lol.
I'm past the mid life crisis point. :D
 

BladeVenom

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In fact there's no hand-fitting throughout the entire process.

Then they should be cheaper. Hand fitting parts is time consuming and expensive.

"In fact, the tightness of our fit is 0.001 inches." I think that would mean lots of jams, and a long break in period.

Dan Wesson uses precision machinery for tight tolerance with little hand fitting, and they are cheaper than custom guns. You also have a long break in period with them, they recommend 500 rounds.

Wilson guarantees 1 inch or 1.5 inches at 25 yards.

You can get an accuracy guarantee with Les Baer, 3" accuracy at 50 yards with an optional extra cost guarantee of 1.5" for a little more.

What's Cabot's accuracy guarantee?
 

shortylickens

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Yup, tighter tolerances mean a more accurate shot, but it also means more mechanical errors, especially as powder residue builds up.

Do not automatically assume its better to have tighter parts. The most durable weapons actually have deliberately loose tolerances to account for real world abuse.
 

irishScott

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Then they should be cheaper. Hand fitting parts is time consuming and expensive.

"In fact, the tightness of our fit is 0.001 inches." I think that would mean lots of jams, and a long break in period.

Dan Wesson uses precision machinery for tight tolerance with little hand fitting, and they are cheaper than custom guns. You also have a long break in period with them, they recommend 500 rounds.

Wilson guarantees 1 inch or 1.5 inches at 25 yards.

You can get an accuracy guarantee with Les Baer, 3" accuracy at 50 yards with an optional extra cost guarantee of 1.5" for a little more.

What's Cabot's accuracy guarantee?

Don't know about guarantee, but they're apparantly pretty damn accurate.
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/7/prweb9711858.htm

Cabot Guns’ Brian Zins wins the NRA National Pistol Championship at Camp Perry with his Cabot 1911.

Cabot Guns, a Pennsylvania company that fields pistols recently called the “Rolls Royce of 1911’s” by the editor of the Blue Book of Gun Values, can now crow about its accuracy capability, too.

The NRA holds its national pistol championship each year at Camp Perry. The victor emerges from a field of 700 top competition shooters.

"Only a few short months ago we committed to fielding a team at Camp Perry," said Cabot Guns President and Gun Designer Rob Bianchin. “We believed in our team and we knew we could supply them with a fantastic firearm – an accurate firearm. But we knew the logistics of the timing would be challenge."

Camp Perry hosted its 109th annual marksmanship tournament this past weekend. The national tournament is widely held to be the “World Series” of competitive pistol shooting.

"We were excited to have our team led by Brian "Gunny" Zins," said Bianchin. "Brian did a beautiful job showing off what a Cabot Gun can do in such expert hands. On Saturday I watched him place 10 consecutive bulls eye shots to claim a perfect 100 point target. Each shot was an X…meaning that it was scored into a 1.7 inch ring."

Zins finished the tournament with a score of 2649, just 3 points ahead of the next competitor but having 26 more “X” shots than the runner up. It was a nail-biting third day of the tournament with Zins coming from behind in true Championship form. This will mark Brian Zins’ 11th National Championship.

Prior to this year, Brian won 10 titles in 18 years, a winning percentage of 56%. Zins’ record makes him arguably the greatest competitive pistol marksman. The next best shooter in the 109-year history of the Camp Perry national championships has won 6 times.

"Bianchin is obsessed with product quality" says Zins. "He and the craftsmen at Penn United Technologies have a rigorous standard for guns and are employing technology to create a new standard of perfection. There is something different about the Cabot 1911 from any other pistol I've won with before. There's something unique about the action. My guess is that the pistol's the tolerance fit between the tangs and rails of the gun - built with Cabot's innovative technology - contribute to the action of the gun. The feel, balance and weight of the gun just makes it easier to shoot."

Reached for comment in Los Angeles, California, pistol Cabot Guns enthusiast and actor Joe Mantegna whose name and star were featured on the Team Cabot Jerseys said, "My congratulations to the Cabot Guns NRA National Pistol championship winners. I'm proud to represent this great company, and hats off to the pistol team."

Team Cabot consisted of four shooters: Brian Zins, William Bethards, Shane Clevenger and Keith Hanzel. In addition to shooting legend Brian "Gunny" Zins, William Bethards and Shane "Brick House" Clevenger were former Marine Pistol Team member with Zins. William Bethards, was recently featured on Top Shot Season Four and is now an FBI firearms instructor based in Fredericksburg, VA. Bethards became a fan favorite on Top Shot for phrases such as "hey diddle diddle, right down the middle" and is known for his quick wit. Bethards commented during an interview at Camp Perry that he was pleased to join the Cabot Gun Team and that the guns were performing as designed. Bethards coined a new catch phrase at Camp Perrry, "Cabot, gotta have it".

The Cabot Gun Team also claimed the Bronze medal - third place among 98 four-man teams - with an aggregate tournament score of 3,387. The team had a slow start with a 9th place finish at the end of the first day of the tournament. On day two, Team Cabot placed 6th and shot the lights out on the final day of the tournament propelling the team upwards in the ranking and next to the U.S. Marine Corp Pistol Team.

Cabot Guns President Rob Bianchin also attributed the success to the dedication of the excellent craftsmen at Penn United Technologies, ammunition supplier Atlanta Arms and Ammunition, team armor KC Crawford and of course the talented shooters on Team Cabot.

Cabot Guns is collaboration between Cabot Guns and Penn United Technologies Inc., a world-leading precision manufacturer. Together they design, build, and market seven model 1911 handguns. Cabot Guns are machined from solid blocks of 4140 billet steel to within tolerances of 2/10,000th of an inch. Cabot believes our frames and slides are the most highly-engineered components ever made for a 1911. Penn United Technologies' proprietary technology allows the frame and slide of a Cabot 1911 to be completely interchangeable with other Cabot 1911 frames and slides. This is unheard of in our industry. Cabot Pistols exceed National Match Standards for accuracy right out of the box.

Cabot Guns and Penn United Technologies, Inc. are located at 799 N. Pike Road, Cabot, PA. Please visit http://www.cabotguns.com and http://www.pennunited.com.
 

irishScott

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At what point does a handgun become "too heavy"? Does it even matter if its for range use only? Slightly concerned about the new gun I'm getting (CZ SP-01).

Depends on the intended use. Unless you're planning to carry it or have weak arms, weight is actually an advantage due to recoil reduction.

If the SP-01 is just for range use/home defense, I wouldn't worry.
 

alkemyst

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jesus Kazaam you are over thinking this.

If you want to daily carry the CZ P-01 is your best bet, solid weapon...I really don't understand how the SP-01 stole it's thunder here.

The P-01 will be my sidearm soon.

If you are looking at home defense, fucking tommy gun.
 

alkemyst

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SP-01 is a bigger gun and not so awesome in that arena. the P-01 is a world leader.

I like 45's, not going to carry one even though I have the size to pull it off. I want capacity for worst cases.