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Merad

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Depends on what you consider "ridiculous"...but PSA has one with no rollmark at all if that's what floats your boat:p
"stealth" lower

Awesome, I may go for that. I need to do some searching for A2 uppers as well... I'm not sure that I want to assemble that myself. Seems like most places don't sell true A2 uppers anymore though, they're A4s with a detachable carry handle.
 

corwin

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Awesome, I may go for that. I need to do some searching for A2 uppers as well... I'm not sure that I want to assemble that myself. Seems like most places don't sell true A2 uppers anymore though, they're A4s with a detachable carry handle.

Yes most are just detachable carry handles these days...I always wanted a real A2 myself, might have to do some looking now as well to see what I can find...but I do like my optics...hmmm
 

phucheneh

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The point I'm making here is that the percentage of gun violence precipitated by people who lawfully own guns and lawfully carry them is exceedingly low. Most people who lawfully carry are not likely to shoot you because you didn't signal; many of these people (spidey not included) are overly conscious of carrying a gun and are thus less likely to cause an incident. Of all the people I know personally who carry, most are very responsible. One is a little over zealous (but won't pull a gun or anything...he just really likes his guns) and lastly, one who is a complete moron and should never carry a gun ever again in his entire life.

I so did not want to reply to any of the random gun politics crap some of you guys were talking about, but I feel that it is worth pointing something out...

Where exactly do you think the guns used in crimes come from? Do you think people are buying guns overseas and smuggling them across the border or something?

I would be willing to bet 99% of guns used in crimes had a lawful owner at some previous point in time.

'But that's silly!' people will say. 'You can't condemn people for having things stolen from them!'

Right, this is true. But you surely also cannot say that just because those who buy firearms legally (especially through a dealer and with a background check) rarely commit crimes with them, that said purchases play no part in criminal activity. I'd say one would have to be EXCEEDINGLY illogical to claim that fewer firearms, legal or not, would not equal less gun crime.

At this point, it's hard to say gun laws would do ANYTHING to help this...it's closing the barn door after the horse got out, raised a horse family, died, and then was beaten by pro-gun/anti-gun debaters. But, again...you simply can't say that legal gun sales are a totally separate entity from gun crime. It makes you look just as bad as the blindly anti-gun crowd.
 

phucheneh

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Yes most are just detachable carry handles these days...I always wanted a real A2 myself, might have to do some looking now as well to see what I can find...but I do like my optics...hmmm

Carry handle mounts work fine. And you can buy picatinny risers.
 

Dari

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I have to get rid of my gun. Mark XIX D'Eagle. My son can now reads and hacking into all our electronic devices. My wife is getting upset because he keeps wondering what's in the safe. She thinks he's going to unlock it. I tell her it's impossible but she's not hearing it. Nothing but a Go bag in there.

Anyway, I want to ship it to Texas. Which authorities do I have to alert, if any?

For the record, I know this gun is not good for home defense because it can go through multiple targets, among other things. But I always wanted one and it was given to me.
 
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RampantAndroid

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I so did not want to reply to any of the random gun politics crap some of you guys were talking about, but I feel that it is worth pointing something out...

Where exactly do you think the guns used in crimes come from? Do you think people are buying guns overseas and smuggling them across the border or something?

I would be willing to bet 99% of guns used in crimes had a lawful owner at some previous point in time.

'But that's silly!' people will say. 'You can't condemn people for having things stolen from them!'

Right, this is true. But you surely also cannot say that just because those who buy firearms legally (especially through a dealer and with a background check) rarely commit crimes with them, that said purchases play no part in criminal activity. I'd say one would have to be EXCEEDINGLY illogical to claim that fewer firearms, legal or not, would not equal less gun crime.

At this point, it's hard to say gun laws would do ANYTHING to help this...it's closing the barn door after the horse got out, raised a horse family, died, and then was beaten by pro-gun/anti-gun debaters. But, again...you simply can't say that legal gun sales are a totally separate entity from gun crime. It makes you look just as bad as the blindly anti-gun crowd.

Sure, I agree with this; however I was replying to someone saying that they didn't trust people carrying concealed. The point I was making is that those people are considerably less likely to be the criminals guilty of gun crimes. I made no statements about where the guns involved in crimes came from.
 

RampantAndroid

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I have to get rid of my gun. Mark XIX D'Eagle. My son can now reads and hacking into all our electronic devices. My wife is getting upset because he keeps wondering what's in the safe. She thinks he's going to unlock it. I tell her it's impossible but she's not hearing it. Nothing but a Go bag in there.

Anyway, I want to ship it to Texas. Which authorities do I have to alert, if any?

Are you selling it to texas? You need to send it to a FFL (federal fireames licensee, aka a gun shop) in Texas for someone to pick up. The laws in texas may require you to send the gun FROM a gun shop as well, or might allow you as an individual to send it to a FFL. Talk to the FFL you choose in Texas about what you need to do.
 

Dari

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Are you selling it to texas? You need to send it to a FFL (federal fireames licensee, aka a gun shop) in Texas for someone to pick up. The laws in texas may require you to send the gun FROM a gun shop as well, or might allow you as an individual to send it to a FFL. Talk to the FFL you choose in Texas about what you need to do.

No, to my father's home.
 

RampantAndroid

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No, to my father's home.

Check laws in texas, in most states you cannot send directly to someone's home, it has to go through an FFL. I don't know Texas' laws and I can't check until I'm off work :p


Call an FFL in Texas near him, for a fast reply - they'll have the definitive answer.
 

Dari

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Check laws in texas, in most states you cannot send directly to someone's home, it has to go through an FFL. I don't know Texas' laws and I can't check until I'm off work :p


Call an FFL in Texas near him, for a fast reply - they'll have the definitive answer.

Alright. Thanks.
 

Merad

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Anyway, I want to ship it to Texas. Which authorities do I have to alert, if any?

Anytime a handgun changes ownership across state lines, a FFL MUST process the transfer. That's federal law. So your dad will need to find a gun store/FFL holder near him, you will ship the gun to them, and they will do the paperwork for him.
 

jpeyton

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Almost finished my budget PSA build.

I tried to build the absolute cheapest brand new forged (no polymer) AR possible. Bought a complete PSA Blackhawk lower with PMAG for $175 (including FFL transfer fees), bought a PTAC upper for $170, got an AIM BCG for $80, and got a fixed aluminum rear sight for $20. Now I just need a cheap charging handle.

I have higher end ARs. This was just an exercise in frugality, and it's a nice cheap beater AR for miscellaneous use. It should come in around ~$450 including the transfer, which is pretty darn good IMO.
 

velillen

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Almost finished my budget PSA build.

I tried to build the absolute cheapest brand new forged (no polymer) AR possible. Bought a complete PSA Blackhawk lower with PMAG for $175 (including FFL transfer fees), bought a PTAC upper for $170, got an AIM BCG for $80, and got a fixed aluminum rear sight for $20. Now I just need a cheap charging handle.

I have higher end ARs. This was just an exercise in frugality, and it's a nice cheap beater AR for miscellaneous use. It should come in around ~$450 including the transfer, which is pretty darn good IMO.

Cheap AR's are fun! I did a PSA upper (before it was blackhawk or PTAC or anything) and it shoots 1-2MOA last time i took it out (which to be honest was quite awhile ago). But its fun having an AR you dont care if you drop it or do tons of mag dumps or well just do whatever with it.
 

Merad

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Almost finished my budget PSA build.

I tried to build the absolute cheapest brand new forged (no polymer) AR possible. Bought a complete PSA Blackhawk lower with PMAG for $175 (including FFL transfer fees), bought a PTAC upper for $170, got an AIM BCG for $80, and got a fixed aluminum rear sight for $20. Now I just need a cheap charging handle.

I have higher end ARs. This was just an exercise in frugality, and it's a nice cheap beater AR for miscellaneous use. It should come in around ~$450 including the transfer, which is pretty darn good IMO.

Hell PSA is selling rifle build kits now for $400. Throw in a $40-50 lower and Primary Arms micro dot for $90 and you can have a full AR with red dot for $550. Quite a change from 18 months ago when the crappiest AR was "worth" $800-1000+.
 

Svnla

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Almost finished my budget PSA build.

I tried to build the absolute cheapest brand new forged (no polymer) AR possible. Bought a complete PSA Blackhawk lower with PMAG for $175 (including FFL transfer fees), bought a PTAC upper for $170, got an AIM BCG for $80, and got a fixed aluminum rear sight for $20. Now I just need a cheap charging handle.

I have higher end ARs. This was just an exercise in frugality, and it's a nice cheap beater AR for miscellaneous use. It should come in around ~$450 including the transfer, which is pretty darn good IMO.

You could get this BCG/CH set for $100 plus shipping or free shipping if you can wait =
http://palmettostatearmory.com/inde...olt-carrier-group-with-charging-handle-1.html

You can get a PSA complete (not PTAC crap) = $240 upper + $100 BCG/CH + $150 lower + $15 FFL fee = $505 (free shipping). Not bad.
 
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adairusmc

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I picked up a redfield battlezone tac.22 scope for my main 10/22 the other day, and I think this might be the ultimate 10/22 scope. Got it mostly dialed in, and using the 36g hp ammo it was designed for, it is perfect. Not a bad price too, $150ish from Amazon.

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Tiamat

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I picked up a redfield battlezone tac.22 scope for my main 10/22 the other day, and I think this might be the ultimate 10/22 scope. Got it mostly dialed in, and using the 36g hp ammo it was designed for, it is perfect. Not a bad price too, $150ish from Amazon.

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Very nice! I ought to post pictures of my Kidd 10/22 with ssevo stock
 

adairusmc

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Firearms marketing is getting ridiculous. Why is a. 22 lr scope called tactical or battlezone?

Because it is in the same product line as very similar scopes designed for 5.56 and 7.62, just designed around a 36g hp .22LR round instead of a bigger round, due to demand. It is not the flagship of the product line, just the baby of the lineup but otherwise identical in features and purpose. Are they supposed to call it something different ?
 

Merad

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Carbine vs mid-length gas systems, what say you? I'm really thinking about building a cheap AR in the next month or two. My current AR is carbine and I don't have any complaints with it, but most people seem to think mid is better for 16" bbls.
 

Svnla

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Carbine vs mid-length gas systems, what say you? I'm really thinking about building a cheap AR in the next month or two. My current AR is carbine and I don't have any complaints with it, but most people seem to think mid is better for 16" bbls.

Mid length gas and 16" barrel for me. Roll up and see my baby picture above.