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TallBill

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Hurray for artificial inflation! I have 4 magazines for my AK, 4 for my PSL, and 10 for my PTR...that's all I'll ever need.

Besides, I'm more into Bolt action/WWII Rifles anyways. I hate AR15s and the people that usually use them at the ranges here. "This ammo sucks!" "I hit bullseye brah!" or the typical "Hi, I'm an elite COD fanboi that loves M4s so I'm going to keep the barrel of my AR-15 carbine length behind the baffle at the bench so that my shitty excuse for a weapon sends all the pressure sideways down the benches and behind me. Fuck everyone else and fuck common courtesy."

Wanna buy a Yugo Mauser? Lol
 

TallBill

Lifer
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Yeah I have a k98 as well, decided that I don't need both. I'd have to see what they are even going for.
 

Spike

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Well, I think I'll stick with the 7 mags for now. The shop has more of the Tapco poly 30 rounders in stock for $20 but if I tried to buy anything else right now my wife would kill me. I only really need 2-3 at a time anyway so I can hold onto the others longer term. For my other firearms I only have 2-4 mags for each but in all cases thats proved fine, though it would be tight if the mags started breaking.

I really hope we don't end up like so many of the European countries. There are so many firearms I want to try and many I'd like to own that aren't allowed over there :(

EDIT* Dicks, walmart, and now this latest video from Obama. Looks like they really are going to push hard for these restrictions. Maybe 5 more mags would not be such a bad thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5ynVMBxOus
 
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clamum

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Hurray for artificial inflation! I have 4 magazines for my AK, 4 for my PSL, and 10 for my PTR...that's all I'll ever need.

Besides, I'm more into Bolt action/WWII Rifles anyways. I hate AR15s and the people that usually use them at the ranges here. "This ammo sucks!" "I hit bullseye brah!" or the typical "Hi, I'm an elite COD fanboi that loves M4s so I'm going to keep the barrel of my AR-15 carbine length behind the baffle at the bench so that my shitty excuse for a weapon sends all the pressure sideways down the benches and behind me. Fuck everyone else and fuck common courtesy."
You hate AR-15s because you can't ignore newbie shooters that shoot them?
 

BlitzPuppet

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You hate AR-15s because you can't ignore newbie shooters that shoot them?

I hate AR-15s for many reasons, a big reason is the crowd that goes with it. I haven't seen a plain Jane AR15 with an A4 stock with no accessories EVER at the range. They all have the m4 stock, and at least 2 aftermarket parts. It's like the car scene I was in back in highschool...ricers galore.

I mainly don't like the caliber (yes, that can be changed) or the operation (yes there are piston options) or the collapsible stock (can be changed as well). All these are afterthoughts.

Everything is just dainty about the rifle, I prefer to have something with more beef/heft.
 
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boomhower

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I picked up some magazines right before the craze hit. I got in on the 10/$100 PMAG deal from dsg and had bought 6 Troy Battlemag's for my Troy rifle since it doesn't love PMAG's. Also backordered 10/$120 from Brownells. If the ban doesn't happen it's still better than regular pricing all around. Also still have 1800 rounds of 5.56 on backorder that's supposed to ship at the end of the month. Hopefully this will all blow over and things will get back to normal.
 

OverVolt

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I hate AR-15s for many reasons, a big reason is the crowd that goes with it. I haven't seen a plain Jane AR15 with an A4 stock with no accessories EVER at the range. They all have the m4 stock, and at least 2 aftermarket parts. It's like the car scene I was in back in highschool...ricers galore.

I mainly don't like the caliber (yes, that can be changed) or the operation (yes there are piston options) or the collapsible stock (can be changed as well). All these are afterthoughts.

Everything is just dainty about the rifle, I prefer to have something with more beef/heft.

I agree with you. I'm not a fan of AR-15's at all. I agree on all the little dumb weapon mods, over customization, etc. The way it was originally meant to be used is the way it functions best.

Its like my friend who bought an S2000 and the previous owner tried to make it cooler and installed aftermarket suspension but he put the back springs in the front and the front springs in the back and the car handled retarded, but the owner thought because it was hard to control it was somehow faster. Thats probably typical of AR-15 weapon modders.

All because you can swap out parts doesn't make you smarter than the engineer who originally designed it.
 

clamum

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I hate AR-15s for many reasons, a big reason is the crowd that goes with it. I haven't seen a plain Jane AR15 with an A4 stock with no accessories EVER at the range. They all have the m4 stock, and at least 2 aftermarket parts. It's like the car scene I was in back in highschool...ricers galore.

I mainly don't like the caliber (yes, that can be changed) or the operation (yes there are piston options) or the collapsible stock (can be changed as well). All these are afterthoughts.

Everything is just dainty about the rifle, I prefer to have something with more beef/heft.
To each his own, I suppose. I have an AR-15 carbine (standard .223/5.56 cal), collapsible stock, EOTech HWS, flip-up irons, and Magpul AFG. I'm nice and respectful to those around me and don't think I've met a fellow shooter I didn't get along with. Perhaps I'm in the minority, haha. I was thinking of getting a Rock River piston AR-15, but damn, my DI gun runs frickin great. I think it was yesterday I posted that I wouldn't be sorry going into battle with my $600 DI AR-15 nor my WASR 10 AK.
 

Svnla

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Questions:

1. Someone said this " a 5.566 rifle will fire .233. A .233 rile will NOT fire a 5.56 round". True or False?

2. Another said that you can get S&W MP .40 handgun and then buy a 9mm barrel to swap out and use cheaper 9mm ammo but you can not do it vice versa (9mm gun then swap out with .40 barrel). True or False?
 

Dannar26

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Anyone else bummed out that cheaper than dirt is sold out of magpul AR mags in. 223/5.56?

I guess a combination of the holiday season + the latest gun ban scare have caused 30 round mags to fly off the shelf...

Anybody else have any ideas for better alternatives? Either for where to get 'em or what else to buy? Magpul seems like one of the best for the money in polymer mags...
 

RampantAndroid

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I hate AR-15s for many reasons, a big reason is the crowd that goes with it. I haven't seen a plain Jane AR15 with an A4 stock with no accessories EVER at the range. They all have the m4 stock, and at least 2 aftermarket parts. It's like the car scene I was in back in highschool...ricers galore.

I mainly don't like the caliber (yes, that can be changed) or the operation (yes there are piston options) or the collapsible stock (can be changed as well). All these are afterthoughts.

Everything is just dainty about the rifle, I prefer to have something with more beef/heft.

There's a damn good reason you don't leave the M4 or M16 stock: the stock stock is awful. I'm not into tacticool, but the AR15 is a fine gun.

Direct impingement works. And it works well. A Daniel Defense V4 AR15 is anything but dainty...and mine isn't dainty either, it's light so you can move around with it.

Seriously, take this to heart: everyone has their own thing.
 

RampantAndroid

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Questions:

1. Someone said this " a 5.566 rifle will fire .233. A .233 rile will NOT fire a 5.56 round". True or False?

2. Another said that you can get S&W MP .40 handgun and then buy a 9mm barrel to swap out and use cheaper 9mm ammo but you can not do it vice versa (9mm gun then swap out with .40 barrel). True or False?

For #1 I think that's right. I believe it's also that .308 rifles can fire 7.62...but not the other way around.

It's all about the headspace.
 

Spike

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For #1 I think that's right. I believe it's also that .308 rifles can fire 7.62...but not the other way around.

It's all about the headspace.

I believe there is also a pressure difference and in the .308/7.62 that difference is quite a bit, enough that it could affect the integrity of the rifle itself.
 

BladeVenom

Lifer
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Questions:

1. Someone said this " a 5.566 rifle will fire .233. A .233 rile will NOT fire a 5.56 round". True or False?

2. Another said that you can get S&W MP .40 handgun and then buy a 9mm barrel to swap out and use cheaper 9mm ammo but you can not do it vice versa (9mm gun then swap out with .40 barrel). True or False?

1. A .223 round will work in a 5.56. It's not recommended to fire 5.56 in a .223 rifle. 5.56 was designed for higher pressures than the .223.

2. Maybe, I'm not sure. You probably can't fire a .40 in a 9mm because the breach face won't be large enough. There is also the issue of how well the extractor and ejector will work with a different caliber. So even if you can fire 9mm out of a .40 it might not be as reliable.

If you want to fire multiple calibers out of one gun, get a Glock 20/29 or a 10mm 1911. 10mm is the parent case of the .40 and the 9x25 Dillon, while the .40 is the parent case of the .357 sig. They all have the same size breach face. There are conversion barrels so you can fire all 3 calibers in a 10mm pistol.
 
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OverVolt

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Pretty sure true because the .40 is more powerful than the 9 so you can use a 9 in a .40, but not a .40 in a 9 because the slide and frame of the 9 aren't strong enough to withstand the pressure of a .40 caliber round. Hopefully this makes sense.

Yea sorta true. Depends on the gun. In general a .40 S&W barrel is much fatter. So an over-spec 9mm barrel can go in a .40 but not the other way around. Because the .40 would be way under-spec if made that thin.
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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I hate AR-15s for many reasons, a big reason is the crowd that goes with it. I haven't seen a plain Jane AR15 with an A4 stock with no accessories EVER at the range. They all have the m4 stock, and at least 2 aftermarket parts. It's like the car scene I was in back in highschool...ricers galore.

I mainly don't like the caliber (yes, that can be changed) or the operation (yes there are piston options) or the collapsible stock (can be changed as well). All these are afterthoughts.

Everything is just dainty about the rifle, I prefer to have something with more beef/heft.

The gadgets are even worse in the military lol. I like the collapsible stock, mine is most comfortable one click from fully extended, and some day I might get an eotech and buis but probably wouldn't unless I get involved with private security. I could also see getting a 458 socom upper.

I've always wanted an m1a but who knows if that'll happen now.

I did get my Gen 4 glock 23 today however. Firearm, 4 mags, and 200 range rounds for $650. Last one in stock, now I just need my mtac holster to arrive and decide on a self defense round.
 

HumblePie

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No one likes the deal I got for my first handgun? Don't have a CCW so didn't look for a CCW type of gun. I've only used rifles and shotguns in the past. Saw that it had pretty good reviews and the price was lower than normal.
 

pontifex

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No one likes the deal I got for my first handgun? Don't have a CCW so didn't look for a CCW type of gun. I've only used rifles and shotguns in the past. Saw that it had pretty good reviews and the price was lower than normal.

lots of Taurus haters out there.

I have a PT99 (the adjustable sight version of the PT92). It has never given me problems.
 

HumblePie

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lots of Taurus haters out there.

I have a PT99 (the adjustable sight version of the PT92). It has never given me problems.

Every review I read had said that the the Taurus PT line are Beretta's with a different mag setup and safety switch. That they are made on Beretta machines, with Beretta materials, with what used to be Beretta employees, and Beretta plans. Just when they bought the contract for all that they had to change the mag/safety switch to be different enough to be a Taurus instead of a Beretta.

For $300 I wanted something that was reliable, easy to shoot, and fit well in my hands (does for me) and would work for home defense. Like I said, not getting it for CCW. I'll likely do that later.

It's funny, but my first gun purchase was for that $700 Troy AR15 that was on sale for BF at Dick's. However, the first gun I've owned is this Taurus PT92. Still waiting on the Troy order to be fulfilled.

Next purchase will be a shotgun of some sort. I'm cheap, but I like good quality for the price. Always been a best "bang" for the buck kind of guy. Pun intended.
 

SithSolo1

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Bought a firearm for the first time today, wasn't as bad as I imagined it would be. Picked up a S&W M&P15X, Magpul RVG, 20rnd pmag, and some 5.56 ammo. Also got a pair of shooting glasses, some snap caps, and ear plugs. They had a few Colts left but I was already over budget and they were $300 more. Is there anything obvious I've forgotten to get?

Hoping to get an FNX 9/40 in the future.
 

gorobei

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Every review I read had said that the the Taurus PT line are Beretta's with a different mag setup and safety switch. That they are made on Beretta machines, with Beretta materials, with what used to be Beretta employees, and Beretta plans. Just when they bought the contract for all that they had to change the mag/safety switch to be different enough to be a Taurus instead of a Beretta.

yes and no. the original beretta 92 pre US sidearm selection in the 70/80's was a frame mounted manual safety only(cocked and locked). as part of the selection process revisions they modified it to m9 frame mounted safety/decocker.

beretta got a large contract for the 92 from brazil and setup a factory down there. after the contract was done they sold the tooling and other equipment for the older 92 to taurus, who made the same manual safety only 92 back in the early 90's. taurus later modified the design and added the 3 position safety and some other tweaks. with the advent of .40 they increased slide thickness.

there is nothing wrong with the 92 design from either beretta or taurus for civilian use at least. soldiers just put more wear and tear on their equipment. the main issue was the walther p38 style toggle link on the barrel, which can be a point of failure so both companies made revisions.