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Perknose

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Karen wants you to know she's going to be sick the next several weekends (hands Karen the phone).
 

GrumpyMan

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Well if you feel like a dirty old man, then I must be the king of them. I'm 49 and my girlfriend is 23 and we have a 1 year old girl. So don't feel too bad.
 
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Originally posted by: KarenMarie
It is pretty apparent that you are not serious about this Karen chick or you would have never gone with another girl. The girl you are 'really into' gets sick and you hook up with someone else? Sorry, but you couldn't have been that 'into' her or you would not have been 'into' someone else at the drop of a hat.

If you really liked her and wanted more than just a light dating situation, you would have been patient and waited for Karen to see that you were serious and commit to you.


Now that is out of the way... if you care for no one and are a free agent, you can sleep with and date anyone you like as long as you are honest with everyone. As long as everyone involved is fully aware that there is no exclusivity anywhere... then you are doing nothing wrong.

The age thing... well, 25 and 19? Only 6 years, but a big 6 years, imho.

And as for your feeling guilty... What if this Karen girl finds out that you 'hooked up' with someone else and kicks you to the curb? Would you feel that you deserved it? Would you care?

Actually, Karen girl wouldn't mind, she said I could date people and that I didn't have to tell her. I didn't cheat on her, I just feel personally guilty.

I am into Karen, SHE has been pretty cold to me, which is forcing me to have some distance. She was sick all week and I did take care of her. Had her over for a few nights, gave her back massages, made her soup... I was the nice guy and, one night, I said, innocently, "You know, I like ya, don't you?" and she gets upset, says "Sam, I still don't know how I feel about you... I like you, but I'm not sure how..."

So i've been distant since then. I've known her for a year, liked her for months, and she rejected me for a while and now we're going on dates... yet she hasn't warmed up, and it's frustrating.
 

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Originally posted by: yllus
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Yet another freedomsbeat212 exchanges ten words with a girl on MySpace and turns it into a "OMG we're going to go out!" thread.

Oh hey look, all the pictures of her that you have are on MySpace! What a coincidence!

 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: GrumpyMan
Well if you feel like a dirty old man, then I must be the king of them. I'm 49 and my girlfriend is 23 and we have a 1 year old girl. So don't feel too bad.
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Originally posted by: yllus
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Yet another freedomsbeat212 exchanges ten words with a girl on MySpace and turns it into a "OMG we're going to go out!" thread.

Oh hey look, all the pictures of her that you have are on MySpace! What a coincidence!


Um... I didn't meet karen on myspace.. and i've known the 19 year old since I moved to my new hood, like 4 months now. We're in-person friends who met through myspace, not myspace friends (she lives two blocks away).And it wasn't just words I exchanged with either of them..
 

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keep dong the 19 year old, karen looks like an inbred emo girl.

edit: just read some of the later posts, kick karen to the curb
 

BoomerD

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You say "Dirty Old Man", like it's a bad thing...hell, be PROUD of your lechery...
19/25 isn't a big difference...enjoy it while you can...keep hitting BOTH of them as long as they'll let you...judging from the one pic of "karen", baybe you can hit BOTH of them at the SAME TIME!
Menage a' trois FTW!
 

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Originally posted by: yowolabi

Here's a hint. If you want her to feel more strongly about you, try doing something nice and selfless for her. Why would she want to commit to the type of man that will only care about her well being if he's 100% sure he'll be getting something back?

Awful idea. If he smothers her while she's trying to figure out what's going on between them, she'll be scared off for sure.

FB212: you're on the right path. keep your options as open as possible without lying to anyone. if you overcommit to #1 and eventually she decides things aren't going anywhere, you'll be hurt and you'll have wasted your time. if you keep things casual for the moment, but let the girl know that you'd like more, just be patient.
 

yllus

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Um... I didn't meet karen on myspace.. and i've known the 19 year old since I moved to my new hood, like 4 months now. We're in-person friends who met through myspace, not myspace friends (she lives two blocks away).And it wasn't just words I exchanged with either of them..
The point is you post the same dumbassed, pathetic "situations" here about girls from MySpace who barely give you the time of day. And in each thread you make the same retarded "pics as requested!" edit, although half the time nobody even asks for them.

YOU TALK TO GIRLS ONLINE. MOST OF THEM HAVE PICTURES. MOST OF THEM REJECT YOU. WE GET IT ALREADY. STOP POSTING.
 

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Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Just remember = "Half your age + 7"


Actually, ROUND_DOWN((YOUR_AGE/2.0)+7.0). Anything lower than that, should be a one night stand at most (assuming it's not illegal).

 
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Originally posted by: yllus
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Um... I didn't meet karen on myspace.. and i've known the 19 year old since I moved to my new hood, like 4 months now. We're in-person friends who met through myspace, not myspace friends (she lives two blocks away).And it wasn't just words I exchanged with either of them..
The point is you post the same dumbassed, pathetic "situations" here about girls from MySpace who barely give you the time of day. And in each thread you make the same retarded "pics as requested!" edit, although half the time nobody even asks for them.

YOU TALK TO GIRLS ONLINE. MOST OF THEM HAVE PICTURES. MOST OF THEM REJECT YOU. WE GET IT ALREADY. STOP POSTING.

Ummm.. Stop reading my posts then... And I haven't really been rejected by either of these girls.. It's a complicated situation to me and, if you don't care then just, well, move on... Just ignore anything I post, fair?
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Ummm.. Stop reading my posts then... And I haven't really been rejected by either of these girls.. It's a complicated situation to me and, if you don't care then just, well, move on... Just ignore anything I post, fair?[/quote]

answer my questions

The real question to ask yourself is why do you feel that it is wrong to enjoy the company of more than one women? Where did you learn this notion? Is it something you truely believe on a deep level or is it something that you absorbed through your environment and therefore acceopt it as the default?
 

yllus

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It's not that complicated. You're the_good_guy v2.0, but somehow even sadder.

Nah, I think I'm going to keep track and point out each of your dumb threads instead. When I have enough material, I'll index it all into a single page where people can go and read about your perpetual failures with women. It'll be educational for the next generation.
 
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Originally posted by: davestar
Originally posted by: yowolabi

Here's a hint. If you want her to feel more strongly about you, try doing something nice and selfless for her. Why would she want to commit to the type of man that will only care about her well being if he's 100% sure he'll be getting something back?

Awful idea. If he smothers her while she's trying to figure out what's going on between them, she'll be scared off for sure.

FB212: you're on the right path. keep your options as open as possible without lying to anyone. if you overcommit to #1 and eventually she decides things are going anywhere, you'll be hurt and you'll have wasted your time. if you keep things casual for the moment, but let the girl know that you'd like more, just be patient.

Dave, you read my mind. I've been that guy before - the nurterer who becomes the best gay friend, even though I'm not gay! I don't want to smother her, I don't want to overwhelm her. I don't want to be the guy who's always around and therefore never exciting. Right now I left big gaps in my "so whatcha do this weekend?" conversation, gaps that probably make her a little curious but in a way that's better than thinking that I'll always be there for her, even if she's vague about how she feels about me.
 

Maxspeed996

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
what who cares. there are no rings on anybodies fingers. have fun. until you commit its nobodies business but yours.

The real question to ask yourself is why do you feel that it is wrong to enjoy the company of more than one women? Where did you learn this notion? Is it something you truely believe on a deep level or is it something that you absorbed through your environment and therefore acceopt it as the default?

Alright! I was starting to worry that I wouldn't see you in here slim....

FREEDOMSBEAT!!! brother , 19 is young! But so are you big daddy! God dang man! Have fun with the young girl , I'm telling you in 5 more years you'll kick yourself in the a$$ if your don't. When I was 25 I was dating someone , and hitting this 20 year old girl on the side , and my moms 19 year old neighbor. WHO IS A SEXY A$$ FRIGGIN HOTTIE. Bro , I waxed their A$$ more times than I can tell you,....I've even got some nice movies from those girls!! I'm married now , and man I tell you what , I am damn happy that I had the chance to do / see the things that I did when I was that age.
You take that 19 year old , and you spank her butt and send her to bed with no dinner. She wants it trust me.
 

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From what you just said about Karen, move on if she can't decide. But don't go with 2 girls at once. If she wants to stick around and 'decide how she feels about you', let her know you aren't about to wait around for her. It sounds sort of like she's already told you not to wait around though.

In my experience the part where they decide how they feel about you is a load of crap and usually means there's an ulterior motive for being near you - like to incur jealousy with someone else or some thing along those lines.

I feel like this thread needs a post from Vladmir...
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
what who cares. there are no rings on anybodies fingers. have fun. until you commit its nobodies business but yours.

The real question to ask yourself is why do you feel that it is wrong to enjoy the company of more than one women? Where did you learn this notion? Is it something you truely believe on a deep level or is it something that you absorbed through your environment and therefore acceopt it as the default?

Alright! I was starting to worry that I wouldn't see you in here slim....

FREEDOMSBEAT!!! brother , 19 is young! But so are you big daddy! God dang man! Have fun with the young girl , I'm telling you in 5 more years you'll kick yourself in the ass if your don't. When I was 25 I was dating someone , and hitting this 20 year old girl on the side , and my moms 19 year old neighbor. WHO IS A SEXY ASS FRIGGIN HOTTIE. Bro , I waxed their A$$ more times than I can tell you,....I've even got some nice movies from that time of my life. I'm married now , and man I tell you what , I am damn happy that I had the chance to do / see the things that I did when I was that age.
You take that 19 year old , and you spank her butt and send her to bed with no dinner. She wants it trust me.

i've got a 19 yo coming over for a "back rub" tonight :eek:
 

wheresmybacon

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Well, some how I'm suddenly less pathetic in my move making and we ended up hooking up - and now I feel guilty and like a dirty old man... Do I have to tell Karen I hooked up with the youngin? I mean, I know i didn't cheat on her but I still feel scummy, especially since she was home sick.

why would you even ask this question? :confused:

yeah tell her in detail how it was... hah. how you could think the answer to this question would be anything other than "keep it on the dl" i have no idea.

if you are having problems rationalizing the morality of being with more than one girl at a time don't do it.
 
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Ummm.. Stop reading my posts then... And I haven't really been rejected by either of these girls.. It's a complicated situation to me and, if you don't care then just, well, move on... Just ignore anything I post, fair?

answer my questions

The real question to ask yourself is why do you feel that it is wrong to enjoy the company of more than one women? Where did you learn this notion? Is it something you truely believe on a deep level or is it something that you absorbed through your environment and therefore acceopt it as the default?[/quote]

You're right, I shouldn't feel guilty but it probably stems from being the long term relationship guy... I feel weird seeing more than one girl, feel weird not telling everyone the whole truth (I never lie, mind you) and am not used to having to be slick all the time - that's really tiring. Slick as in suave, charming.

It also probably has a lot to do with my upbringing. Both very traditional indian and very christian. I don't feel it's *wrong* but i do feel guilty, even though Karen was the one who wanted to keep it open while I really would like to just date one girl (it's so much cheaper!).
 

Maxspeed996

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
what who cares. there are no rings on anybodies fingers. have fun. until you commit its nobodies business but yours.

The real question to ask yourself is why do you feel that it is wrong to enjoy the company of more than one women? Where did you learn this notion? Is it something you truely believe on a deep level or is it something that you absorbed through your environment and therefore acceopt it as the default?

Alright! I was starting to worry that I wouldn't see you in here slim....

FREEDOMSBEAT!!! brother , 19 is young! But so are you big daddy! God dang man! Have fun with the young girl , I'm telling you in 5 more years you'll kick yourself in the ass if your don't. When I was 25 I was dating someone , and hitting this 20 year old girl on the side , and my moms 19 year old neighbor. WHO IS A SEXY ASS FRIGGIN HOTTIE. Bro , I waxed their A$$ more times than I can tell you,....I've even got some nice movies from that time of my life. I'm married now , and man I tell you what , I am damn happy that I had the chance to do / see the things that I did when I was that age.
You take that 19 year old , and you spank her butt and send her to bed with no dinner. She wants it trust me.

i've got a 19 yo coming over for a "back rub" tonight :eek:

MY MAN!!! :beer:
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212

Ummm.. Stop reading my posts then... And I haven't really been rejected by either of these girls.. It's a complicated situation to me and, if you don't care then just, well, move on... Just ignore anything I post, fair?

answer my questions

The real question to ask yourself is why do you feel that it is wrong to enjoy the company of more than one women? Where did you learn this notion? Is it something you truely believe on a deep level or is it something that you absorbed through your environment and therefore acceopt it as the default?

You're right, I shouldn't feel guilty but it probably stems from being the long term relationship guy... I feel weird seeing more than one girl, feel weird not telling everyone the whole truth (I never lie, mind you) and am not used to having to be slick all the time - that's really tiring. Slick as in suave, charming.

It also probably has a lot to do with my upbringing. Both very traditional indian and very christian. I don't feel it's *wrong* but i do feel guilty, even though Karen was the one who wanted to keep it open while I really would like to just date one girl (it's so much cheaper!).[/quote]


recognizing where the guilt comes from is important to eventually learning to let it go.
 
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
what who cares. there are no rings on anybodies fingers. have fun. until you commit its nobodies business but yours.

The real question to ask yourself is why do you feel that it is wrong to enjoy the company of more than one women? Where did you learn this notion? Is it something you truely believe on a deep level or is it something that you absorbed through your environment and therefore acceopt it as the default?

Alright! I was starting to worry that I wouldn't see you in here slim....

FREEDOMSBEAT!!! brother , 19 is young! But so are you big daddy! God dang man! Have fun with the young girl , I'm telling you in 5 more years you'll kick yourself in the ass if your don't. When I was 25 I was dating someone , and hitting this 20 year old girl on the side , and my moms 19 year old neighbor. WHO IS A SEXY ASS FRIGGIN HOTTIE. Bro , I waxed their A$$ more times than I can tell you,....I've even got some nice movies from that time of my life. I'm married now , and man I tell you what , I am damn happy that I had the chance to do / see the things that I did when I was that age.
You take that 19 year old , and you spank her butt and send her to bed with no dinner. She wants it trust me.

i've got a 19 yo coming over for a "back rub" tonight :eek:

back rubs are my new secret weapon - it gets them everytime!
you guys are right, i shouldn't feel guilty.. she's not too young.. i'm going to ask her out on a more formal date and.. well, you know the rest.