YAGT: "I already have enough friends" actually works!

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So there's this girl I've been longing for for quite a while. We've gotten pretty close and I recently asked her out on a date. She gave me the old "I love you as a friend and i wouldn't want to risk that..." So, after some reflection, I texted her - "I would be willing to take that risk and i'm sorry that you won't - bye." two days later she calls me and says that she'd miss me too much and said that she'd be willing to try dating. it works, it's really does work!
 

Descartes

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IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.
 

notfred

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That's what I'm saying. The reason so many ATers get stuck in the "friends zone" is because they never try and get out of it. Either that, or they never had a chance in the first place.
 

Ika

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Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

 

BooGiMaN

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Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

yeah sounds kind of odd....seems liek he blackmailed her into a date
 

Alienwho

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Yeah i've been playing the "I already have enough friends" card for a while now. It's never failed me yet.
 

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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

yeah sounds kind of odd....seems liek he blackmailed her into a date


SWEET!! Hey whatever works man ;)
 
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Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

I agree that's why i've never done it.. But I meant what I said - I was willing to take the risk and, if she wasn't, then I'd feel awkward just being friends when it's clear that I want something more. I wasn't manipulating her and just expected to never see her again, but it ended in a different way.. not that I called her back yet to schedule a date or anything... i just sometimes people need to be reminded that you're important to them as well
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

yeah sounds kind of odd....seems liek he blackmailed her into a date


a lot of girls like a man who takes charge. if he didn't do it, he'd still be in "Let's Just Be Friends" slot.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: notfred
That's what I'm saying. The reason so many ATers get stuck in the "friends zone" is because they never try and get out of it. Either that, or they never had a chance in the first place.

Isn't the real problem the fact that you got into the friend zone in the first place? It's the social event horizon as far as I'm concerned; you're not getting out. You may be able to try to withold something like the OP has done, and you may actually succeed in getting a piece; however, it seems it would be at the cost of the friendship.

IMO. I've never been in a friend zone with a woman, but I've had women who I considered only friends. I simply wouldn't be able to think of them otherwise no matter what they said/did.
 

NaOH

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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

yeah sounds kind of odd....seems liek he blackmailed her into a date

He didn't blackmail her. He's not forcing her to do anything she is unwilling to do. He just got her to take a chance with him and have fun. If it doesn't work out then they can continue being friends again.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

I agree that's why i've never done it.. But I meant what I said - I was willing to take the risk and, if she wasn't, then I'd feel awkward just being friends when it's clear that I want something more. I wasn't manipulating her and just expected to never see her again, but it ended in a different way.. not that I called her back yet to schedule a date or anything... i just sometimes people need to be reminded that you're important to them as well

And her being your friend didn't remind you enough? I'd think she'd see your thinly veiled attempt to score a piece of ass, but she might be willing to ignore it as she values your friendship.

Ok, enough of my antagonism. Good luck again :)
 

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Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

yeah sounds kind of odd....seems liek he blackmailed her into a date

He didn't blackmail her. He's not forcing her to do anything she is unwilling to do. He just got her to take a chance with him and have fun. If it doesn't work out then they can continue being friends again.
Sounds probable...
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

yeah sounds kind of odd....seems liek he blackmailed her into a date

He didn't blackmail her. He's not forcing her to do anything she is unwilling to do.

Blackmail isn't forceful, it's compelling. She has the choice to ignore his requests, but it's at the cost of the friendship.

He just got her to take a chance with him and have fun. If it doesn't work out then they can continue being friends again.

Good luck with that idea. It changes things. Some friendships survive, some don't.
 
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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

I agree that's why i've never done it.. But I meant what I said - I was willing to take the risk and, if she wasn't, then I'd feel awkward just being friends when it's clear that I want something more. I wasn't manipulating her and just expected to never see her again, but it ended in a different way.. not that I called her back yet to schedule a date or anything... i just sometimes people need to be reminded that you're important to them as well

And her being your friend didn't remind you enough? I'd think she'd see your thinly veiled attempt to score a piece of ass, but she might be willing to ignore it as she values your friendship.

Ok, enough of my antagonism. Good luck again :)

Here's the thing, I don't just want a piece of ass - I really like the girl and have warm/gushy feelings for her. My approach for girls I just want to score with? I never talk to them, I never hang out with them. I don't want to get close to girls I don't really appreciate on multiple levels. Here was a case where I liked everything about a girl - I love spending time with her and, yes, find her attractive. The problem is that I would love to see the friendship grow but I felt she rudely put a halt to even giving me a chance, so I was willing to cut her off. My best relationships were always with friends, friends I still hang out with, so this is part of what I want in a relationship. So, yeah, I understand what you're saying about just wanting ass and tricking her into submission, but that's not the case here.. I kinda really like this girl and wanted to take her out to dinner and have an old fashioned date - if i wanted to do her i'd just get her drunk, but the last time she got drunk I tucked her into my bed and slept on the couch.
 

BooGiMaN

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

yeah sounds kind of odd....seems liek he blackmailed her into a date

He didn't blackmail her. He's not forcing her to do anything she is unwilling to do.

Blackmail isn't forceful, it's compelling. She has the choice to ignore his requests, but it's at the cost of the friendship.

He just got her to take a chance with him and have fun. If it doesn't work out then they can continue being friends again.

Good luck with that idea. It changes things. Some friendships survive, some don't.

pretty much the dynamics of the freindship has changed...i hope he doesnt expect to go back to the way things were if it doesnt work out...
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

I agree that's why i've never done it.. But I meant what I said - I was willing to take the risk and, if she wasn't, then I'd feel awkward just being friends when it's clear that I want something more. I wasn't manipulating her and just expected to never see her again, but it ended in a different way.. not that I called her back yet to schedule a date or anything... i just sometimes people need to be reminded that you're important to them as well

And her being your friend didn't remind you enough? I'd think she'd see your thinly veiled attempt to score a piece of ass, but she might be willing to ignore it as she values your friendship.

Ok, enough of my antagonism. Good luck again :)

Here's the thing, I don't just want a piece of ass - I really like the girl and have warm/gushy feelings for her. My approach for girls I just want to score with? I never talk to them, I never hang out with them. I don't want to get close to girls I don't really appreciate on multiple levels. Here was a case where I liked everything about a girl - I love spending time with her and, yes, find her attractive. The problem is that I would love to see the friendship grow but I felt she rudely put a halt to even giving me a chance, so I was willing to cut her off. My best relationships were always with friends, friends I still hang out with, so this is part of what I want in a relationship. So, yeah, I understand what you're saying about just wanting ass and tricking her into submission, but that's not the case here.. I kinda really like this girl and wanted to take her out to dinner and have an old fashioned date - if i wanted to do her i'd just get her drunk, but the last time she got drunk I tucked her into my bed and slept on the couch.

Ok, I understand things a little better now. Sounds like you're more of a gentleman that simply needs to cut through the nonsense by being direct. I can appreciate that. I can empathize with that.

:thumbsup:
 

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Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

yeah sounds kind of odd....seems liek he blackmailed her into a date

He didn't blackmail her. He's not forcing her to do anything she is unwilling to do.

Blackmail isn't forceful, it's compelling. She has the choice to ignore his requests, but it's at the cost of the friendship.

He just got her to take a chance with him and have fun. If it doesn't work out then they can continue being friends again.

Good luck with that idea. It changes things. Some friendships survive, some don't.

pretty much the dynamics of the freindship has changed...i hope he doesnt expect to go back to the way things were if it doesnt work out...


Most "after relationship" friendships are pretty screwed up. And eventually fade away - of course some miniscule .01% works out ok.
 
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Originally posted by: mayonnaise
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

yeah sounds kind of odd....seems liek he blackmailed her into a date

He didn't blackmail her. He's not forcing her to do anything she is unwilling to do.

Blackmail isn't forceful, it's compelling. She has the choice to ignore his requests, but it's at the cost of the friendship.

He just got her to take a chance with him and have fun. If it doesn't work out then they can continue being friends again.

Good luck with that idea. It changes things. Some friendships survive, some don't.

pretty much the dynamics of the freindship has changed...i hope he doesnt expect to go back to the way things were if it doesnt work out...


Most "after relationship" friendships are pretty screwed up. And eventually fade away - of course some miniscule .01% works out ok.

I still talk to the girl I dated when I was 12 (13 years ago, gasp) and am taking out my last ex dancing tonight. I'm pretty good with keeping the friendship going, maybe it's because I have a low sex drive? wait, did I say that outloud?

 

BooGiMaN

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Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: mayonnaise
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: AMDUALY
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
IMO, that sounds like that'd be really awkward. You forced her into a date by threatening to withhold friendship.

Good luck to you though.

yeah sounds kind of odd....seems liek he blackmailed her into a date

He didn't blackmail her. He's not forcing her to do anything she is unwilling to do.

Blackmail isn't forceful, it's compelling. She has the choice to ignore his requests, but it's at the cost of the friendship.

He just got her to take a chance with him and have fun. If it doesn't work out then they can continue being friends again.

Good luck with that idea. It changes things. Some friendships survive, some don't.

pretty much the dynamics of the freindship has changed...i hope he doesnt expect to go back to the way things were if it doesnt work out...


Most "after relationship" friendships are pretty screwed up. And eventually fade away - of course some miniscule .01% works out ok.

I still talk to the girl I dated when I was 12 (13 years ago, gasp) and am taking out my last ex dancing tonight. I'm pretty good with keeping the friendship going, maybe it's because I have a low sex drive? wait, did I say that outloud?

and quoted so that future generations can know that you have a limp willy and need viagra:p