YAGT: How Can I Shake the Money Effect?

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halik

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Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: spidey07
WTH would you ever tell a woman what you make?

That's just asking for trouble. Plus it's rude.
I don't tell them what I make...
It's obvious that I'm well off with $5k living room furniture, 42" plasma, new computer, new car, nice diningroom and bedroom set.

It's actually quite hard to hide what I make...
The average income here is $30k per person (not household), I'm at $62k and likely will be at high 60's in Feb.

I like to pat myself on the back sometimes and this results in an obvious sign of wealth in a poorer community.

i make 100k and i only recently spent 2k couch, a 45" plasma and a XPS computer i bought for cheap. other than that i have nothing you listed. with the mortgage and everything i spend the rest and either put into savings or invest into stocks. i have no other way of showing it :p

that's the difference for ya, i live in NYC :( 100k is nothing

jersey ftw.... my rent is 750 a mo :D

in NJ, buying a house there is a bitch i heard. i dont like rent, throwing away money, you dont get a penny back. its not smart spending. i still cant understand why one of my high school friend who moved to new hampshire is RENTING... god.

i wonder what city the OP is referring to.

I know where you're coming from, though places in the city are super inflated. I can't do Long Island either, just because the commute is a bitch (I work on wall st.)
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: EKKC
in NJ, buying a house there is a bitch i heard. i dont like rent, throwing away money, you dont get a penny back. its not smart spending. i still cant understand why one of my high school friend who moved to new hampshire is RENTING... god.

i wonder what city the OP is referring to.
it's cheaper for me to rent compared to buying.
my rent is $640/mo including all utilities.

if I bought a house, maintenance, utilities, interest on mortgage, taxes, etc. all far exceed the rental costs. All those items are sunk costs and are before you invest in the home equity; and to be quite honest, i don't need a mortgage to force my savings.
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
LOL!! The money effect. You don't even make that much money.
I know that.
But for a guy my age (23) and relative to those i date...there's a huge difference.
Should I hide or shouldn't I hide...clear question.

Seriously STFU... you only come off as a pretention jackass. 60K is out-of-college starting salary, so get over it. There is no money effect. Nada. Zip.

actually i do think thats high for out of college, but no, i agree there is no money effect for the OP I don't believe. most gold diggers aim for the rich investment bankers, celebrities, and sport superstars, and if he's in a relatively poor community, the real gold diggers probably all moved out.
 

Mr Smiley

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Wow. You are making yourself look like a real dick. I feel sorry for you if the only girls you can get to go on a date are money hungry whores.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Stunt
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
LOL!! The money effect. You don't even make that much money.
I know that.
But for a guy my age (23) and relative to those i date...there's a huge difference.
Should I hide or shouldn't I hide...clear question.
Seriously STFU... you only come off as a pretention jackass. 60K is out-of-college starting salary, so get over it. There is no money effect. Nada. Zip.
Starting salary out of college here is $35-40k here...again, money goes a long way up here.

If you had good reading conprehension you would see the women i date are NOT college educated. The income difference is significant.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: Mr Smiley
Wow. You are making yourself look like a real dick. I feel sorry for you if the only girls you can get to go on a date are money hungry whores.
I didn't say that.

I want to know if this is something I should be hiding; other posters seen to think i should...hence the moral debate.
 

Sukhoi

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Do you have no savings or investments? I can't see how you have all that stuff on the income you make and still have any money left over.
 

vi edit

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My wife was from a very low income area, and grew up in a single (low)income household. Her first job out of college pays a considerable amount more than you make.

If anything, her upbringing makes her value money even more and she is more frugal with it than somebody that grew up in a home where money was readily available.
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: Sukhoi
Do you have no savings or investments? I can't see how you have all that stuff on the income you make and still have any money left over.
I assume sarcasm here...*sigh* but I'll answer anyway...

Yes, I save $2k a month.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
My wife was from a very low income area, and grew up in a single (low)income household. Her first job out of college pays a considerable amount more than you make.

If anything, her upbringing makes her value money even more and she is more frugal with it than somebody that grew up in a home where money was readily available.

:thumbsup:

I'd agree with this as well. My fiance is good about making me return products if they are bad or clothes if they don't fit. Used to I couldn't be bothered, and I wasted a ton of money. We also cook more and spend less money on going "out" and things of that nature. She's WAYYYYY more frugal than me, so it is helping to effect a positive change on me.

My fiance's family is middle class where she comes from, but in the United States not so much. Back home she's got a comfortable existence -- she just doesn't have excess money laying a round. The income gap between us is massive, but we've never really even discussed it. I see no reason to.

Someone said it isn't an issue unless you make it one. I agree with that entirely. There's no reason to hide or not hide something. Just be yourself. If someone is a golddigger you should be able to see it a mile away.
 

ponyo

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OP, since we're comparing e-penises, when I was your age, I had close to a million in liquid assets and drove a new Porsche paid in cash. Not once did I worry about women being attracted to me for my money. Back then I made in a single day what most females I dated made in an entire year.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: Naustica
OP, since we're comparing e-penises, when I was your age, I had close to a million in liquid assets and drove a new Porsche paid in cash. Not once did I worry about women being attracted to me for my money. Back then I made in a single day what most females I dated made in an entire year.

and then the bubble burst and pets.com realized they can't pay that much to developers ? :D
 

Stunt

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Originally posted by: Naustica
OP, since we're comparing e-penises, when I was your age, I had close to a million in liquid assets and drove a new Porsche paid in cash. Not once did I worry about women being attracted to me for my money. Back then I made in a single day what most females I dated made in an entire year.
Very impressive.
Congrats on your success.

I guess you had no issues with showing women you dated your financial situation.
 

ponyo

Lifer
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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Naustica
OP, since we're comparing e-penises, when I was your age, I had close to a million in liquid assets and drove a new Porsche paid in cash. Not once did I worry about women being attracted to me for my money. Back then I made in a single day what most females I dated made in an entire year.

and then the bubble burst and pets.com realized they can't pay that much to developers ? :D

No, then bubble burst and stocks I used to buy without knowing anything about them came crashing down and trading actually required skill. :D
 

Stunt

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For those in the states who want cost of living comparisons...
I've used cost of living and salary calculators and a $62k wage here is worth $80k in Texas major cities and higher in places like LA, NY.

I have a friend who just signed up with a company in LA for $80k and he's not banking anything. Pretty damn sad if you ask me.
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Naustica
OP, since we're comparing e-penises, when I was your age, I had close to a million in liquid assets and drove a new Porsche paid in cash. Not once did I worry about women being attracted to me for my money. Back then I made in a single day what most females I dated made in an entire year.

and then the bubble burst and pets.com realized they can't pay that much to developers ? :D

No, then bubble burst and stocks I used to buy without knowing anything about them came crashing down and trading actually required skill. :D

so, have you acquired the said skills yet? if so please share :laugh:
 

halik

Lifer
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Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Naustica
OP, since we're comparing e-penises, when I was your age, I had close to a million in liquid assets and drove a new Porsche paid in cash. Not once did I worry about women being attracted to me for my money. Back then I made in a single day what most females I dated made in an entire year.

and then the bubble burst and pets.com realized they can't pay that much to developers ? :D

No, then bubble burst and stocks I used to buy without knowing anything about them came crashing down and trading actually required skill. :D

so, have you acquired the said skills yet? if so please share :laugh:

Honestly unless you work in research or s&t and have access to large pool of financial data (bloomberg, factivate etc) you're stabbing in the dark no matter what you do.
 

ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
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Originally posted by: EKKC
Originally posted by: Naustica
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Naustica
OP, since we're comparing e-penises, when I was your age, I had close to a million in liquid assets and drove a new Porsche paid in cash. Not once did I worry about women being attracted to me for my money. Back then I made in a single day what most females I dated made in an entire year.

and then the bubble burst and pets.com realized they can't pay that much to developers ? :D

No, then bubble burst and stocks I used to buy without knowing anything about them came crashing down and trading actually required skill. :D

so, have you acquired the said skills yet? if so please share :laugh:

Nope. For about 3 years there I thought I was a genious. LOL. After the market crashed, I was in denial for another 2 years and tried to make it back. Lived off my savings and investments. I finally gave in and realized the go-go era would never return and took most of my remaining savings and bought a restaurant and actually worked for the first time in about 5 years. Sold that and now own a contracting business involved in existing construction.

I still swing trade but most of my money is now tied up in low beta relatively safe stocks. I'm now making my money the old fashioned way. The market is no longer the main source of my income.
 

randay

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Originally posted by: Stunt
For those in the states who want cost of living comparisons...
I've used cost of living and salary calculators and a $62k wage here is worth $80k in Texas major cities and higher in places like LA, NY.

I have a friend who just signed up with a company in LA for $80k and he's not banking anything. Pretty damn sad if you ask me.

link to calculators?
 

ColdFusion718

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I wouldn't worry about it. Just don't rub it in their faces. Don't offer to solve everyone's problems. If you find that you're constantly paying for dates, then yeah the girl is after your money.
 

randay

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wow wtf, can someone explain this to me please :( should I be happy or sad.

edit: whoops forgot to put this:

The cost of living in New York, New York is 262.3% higher than that of Honolulu, Hawaii. A salary of $36,000 in Honolulu, Hawaii has the same buying power that a salary of $130,421 has in New York, New York.
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: Stunt
For those in the states who want cost of living comparisons...
I've used cost of living and salary calculators and a $62k wage here is worth $80k in Texas major cities and higher in places like LA, NY.

I have a friend who just signed up with a company in LA for $80k and he's not banking anything. Pretty damn sad if you ask me.

link to calculators?

1 low income city = 1.2 TX = 2 NYC/LA = KING in Micronesia!
 

aceO07

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Originally posted by: randay
wow wtf, can someone explain this to me please :( should I be happy or sad.

edit: whoops forgot to put this:

The cost of living in New York, New York is 262.3% higher than that of Honolulu, Hawaii. A salary of $36,000 in Honolulu, Hawaii has the same buying power that a salary of $130,421 has in New York, New York.

Yea, I think that site is screwed up. moving.com right?

I put in $50K Boston and it bloomed into $180K for NYC.