YAGT: Another guy *UPDATE: ... All is not as it seemed

EyeMWing

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This girl that I've been "with" (Loosely boyfriend & girlfriend, as we do all that stuff together, but it's an open relationship and our primary emotional attachment is on a much more parental level - if that makes any freaking sense to anyone but me) for the past... 4 years or so, has been seeing another guy lately. I'm fine with this - I've always stood by the idea that she can do whatever she wants with herself and her body, and that my primary purpose is just to be there when she screws up.

So anyway, she's been seeing this other guy for 3 weeks. They were out on a boat for god knows what reason yesterday, supposedly "fishing." Just her, him, and one of his friends. Anyway, she calls me at like 3AM last night, madly upset and for the life of me, I can't understand what the hell she's babbling on about. I tell her to calm down and talk to me about it in the morning.

She stays home from school "sick" and I head over there after school today to find out what the hell is going on. While I'm there, she tells me this heat-wrenching story about how these two assholes fed her some marijuana and vodka and got her to consent to sex. She was a virgin up until yesterday afternoon :( and is absolutely convinced that I'm mad at her (I got flaming pissed when she told me this, but not at her).

How the fvck do I help her understand that she didn't do anything wrong - and more importantly, what's proper ettiquette for exacting some retribution for this horrible transgression?

And no, telling her parents are out - her mother would ship her off to a convent, and her father is a fvcking child/wife beating bastard living half a continent away (thank god).

UPDATE
Originally posted by: tweakmm
Maybe she got trashed, horney and decided to see what the whole sex thing was about, then afterwards she got ashamed and decided to say that she was forced to you because you would make her feel better about it... you are her fallback guy.

Jesus christ I hate it when you guys are right.

She wasn't raped, she just made it up to supposedly make me less upset. Apparently (Though I'm not sure if I should believe what I'm told anymore - I was seriously ready to gather a few buddies and go trash a coupla ricemobiles over nothing) the whole purpose of this little water trip was to get some sexx0r going - and she went because she was "tired of [my] excuses" when she wanted to have sex. This has happened between us no fewer than 10 times over the past year. We both get goin and once we're nekkid and about to do "it", I'd ask if she was sure of what she was about to do and what the potential consequences are and such. She always backed out at that point. I guess she interpreted that as my way of saying no.

Dammit, sometimes being a nice guy sucks.

No drugs or alcohol were consumed until afterwards - and she says the only reason she did those was to try to overcome the remorse she was beginning to feel.

I guess this is one of those issues that the two of us are going to have to work over together.

Now I feel like an ass for posting this to begin with.

UPDATE 2
Ahh! I link it and it ressurects! For people clicking this thread for the first time, all is fine now, despite ATOT general opinion and in the end it's been an overall relationship booster (Neither of us are sane - it doesn't have to make sense. I think.)
 

minendo

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File rape charges.

She should probably seek emotional help also.
 

chin311

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sorry to hear that....thats terrible...

i dotn know what you can do, but pressing charges would involve having the mom know about it, its not necessarily the daughters fault, so she shouldn't be pissed at her, although i dont know the details of this story.
 

EyeMWing

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Thought about that, she won't do it (And she consented anyway).

Oh wait a minute, they're all minors - that means they were raping each other and makes it really fscking stupid.
 

imported_Papi

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hmm this sounds so much like a story that was posted a few days ago.

anyhow, it's kinda hard to MAKE someone smoke, let a lone smoke pot AND drink alcohol.

Don't go killing anyone just yet ;) she's probably lying.
 

Zugzwang152

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tell her specifically you are not mad at her and you care very much about her well being. once her head clears, think about pressing charges.
 

Kenny

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: minendo
File rape charges.

I agree with this, but you say you can't let her parents know.

If you really care about her, I would just beat the living sh!t out of those guys because you can't take back what happened.

That's just me though.
 

minendo

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Thought about that, she won't do it (And she consented anyway).

Oh wait a minute, they're all minors - that means they were raping each other and makes it really fscking stupid.
Why would she turn to someone with your view on things? I feel sorry for her.

 

amdskip

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Thats great that you are there to support her and one of her mistakes. Be positive as she needs all the help she can get right now.
 

MrChad

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Was she actually raped? I mean if she voluntarily got stoned and agreed to have sex ...
 

tweakmm

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Maybe she got trashed, horney and decided to see what the whole sex thing was about, then afterwards she got ashamed and decided to say that she was forced to you because you would make her feel better about it... you are her fallback guy.
 

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Thought about that, she won't do it (And she consented anyway).

Oh wait a minute, they're all minors - that means they were raping each other and makes it really fscking stupid.
It's still rape if she consented when she was under the influence of some controlled substance. Especially since they provided said substances. It sounds like they gave her pot brownies or something...or did they get her to smoke it? And how did they get the vodka in her?

That's what I'm confused about.

By the way, sorry dude. :( What a horrible situation - just make sure she knows you aren't mad at her and that you're there for her.
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: MrChad
Was she actually raped? I mean if she voluntarily got stoned and agreed to have sex ...

or is she possibly regretting a choice she did make?
 
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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Thought about that, she won't do it (And she consented anyway).

Oh wait a minute, they're all minors - that means they were raping each other and makes it really fscking stupid.

its not consent if she was drunk or on drugs...(in almost every state i believe)
 

crisp82

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Maybe she got trashed, horney and decided to see what the whole sex thing was about, then afterwards she got ashamed and decided to say that she was forced to you because you would make her feel better about it... you are her fallback guy.
kinda agree here. don't be angry with me for it, i just had this happen to me over a period of 11 months or so. i know people who are like this, they get drunk, then horny, then are ashamed of what they did, not because it isn't them, but because it IS.

Stand by her, remember safety in numbers and leave the hammer at home huh?
 

crumpet19

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If that is how the story actually happened, Those guys should be held accountable for what they've done.
That being said, SHE decided to drink and smoke. She should have known better. Because of her descision to be irresponsible and wreckless my pity for her is greatly reduced. On the really extreme end of the spectrum she got what was coming to her.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: yayo
hmm this sounds so much like a story that was posted a few days ago.

anyhow, it's kinda hard to MAKE someone smoke, let a lone smoke pot AND drink alcohol.

Don't go killing anyone just yet ;) she's probably lying.


I was about to say, they FED her Pot and alchol
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Sounds liek she did drugs and is on the start of being a slut.

Move on., it was HER CHOICE. They did NOT rape her.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: crisp82
Maybe she got trashed, horney and decided to see what the whole sex thing was about, then afterwards she got ashamed and decided to say that she was forced to you because you would make her feel better about it... you are her fallback guy.
kinda agree here. don't be angry with me for it, i just had this happen to me over a period of 11 months or so. i know people who are like this, they get drunk, then horny, then are ashamed of what they did, not because it isn't them, but because it IS.
Yup, although its an entirely different story is they gave her some brownies and mixed some really weak drinks and didnt tell her that she was getting intoxicated.

 

imported_Papi

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common someone find that story about the girl on the boat and then at some party and her boyfriends best friend raping her and then her boyfriend and another friend killed him.

it was like a week ago or so....
 

dxkj

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putting 2 and 2 together


and is absolutely convinced that I'm mad at her

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and got her to consent to sex

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she knew you would be mad at HER if she didnt play this up to be out of her control, so she added on the part about them forcing weed into her, and forcing her to drink, but not forcing her to have sex, playing off that part on the alcohol and weed.