YAGST: Best Hidden Wall Mount Gunsafe?

[Scarpozzi]

I'm looking for a hidden gun safe that can be mounted between 2 studs. I'd prefer one less than 16" wide, but I can frame whatever's needed if the safe is nice enough and the price isn't too high.

I've looked at Tactical Walls: http://tacticalwalls.com/

And Homak's wall mount safe, which can be purchased from Home Depot:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Homak-Se...g-Wall-Safe-WS00018002/202920087#.UnsPOxDWNJk

Both of these seem to be effective, though the Tactical Walls pricepoint is a lot higher than the other due to its more polished appearance. I'm planning on installing this in a closet rather than in plain sight. Are there any other brands I should look at?

 

[Kadarin]

We have a Liberty safe that fits in the closet. It's not hidden or anything other than just being in the closet, but it works great.

 

[Scarpozzi]

My dad has a nice safe and collection of guns that I'll likely inherit one day. Until then I don't want to lose floor space and only need to store a few handguns and rifles.

I feel bad for my cousin...he bought a Field & Stream safe, locked all his guns in it...then his wife/kids/housekeeper.....someone moved the piece of paper that had the combination on it. He's been without his guns now for a month and a half....the only options are 1. find the combination 2. pay a locksmith to permanently damage the safe (cheaper to replace than repair after they crack it)

 

[JulesMaximus]

WTF? A gun owner who wants to lock up his guns?

 

[zinfamous]

I would think this is the first gun safe thread, no? is the "YA" tag needed? :hmm:

 

[rommelrommel]

My dad has a nice safe and collection of guns that I'll likely inherit one day. Until then I don't want to lose floor space and only need to store a few handguns and rifles.

I feel bad for my cousin...he bought a Field & Stream safe, locked all his guns in it...then his wife/kids/housekeeper.....someone moved the piece of paper that had the combination on it. He's been without his guns now for a month and a half....the only options are 1. find the combination 2. pay a locksmith to permanently damage the safe (cheaper to replace than repair after they crack it)

If it's electronic the manufacturer should be able to provide a master reset code if given the SN and proof of purchase. If it's manual a good locksmith should be able to pop it with minimal damage. New lock is a lot less than a new safe regardless, unless this is a bootom end stack on type thing.

 

[Tiamat]

I like the ones with simplex lock. In any event, I email myself the combination to one of my unused email addresses translated imbedded within a meaningful paragraph.

The problem with the in wall safes is that they are easily penetrated from the other side of the wall. It would also be easy for someone to use a sawzall and rip out the two studs and the safe and go. 10 second job for a thief. The normal safes like fort Knox brand are heavy as f*** and difficult to break. Just some thoughts... If I were to use in wall between stud safes, I would reinforce the wall behind, the studs...

 

[onza]

This is how i've been rolling the past few months

 

[Triumph]

The best hiding place is in plane site. So I leave all of my guns laying around the house - coffee tables, bathroom sink, armchair, etc. But I've also bought hundreds of dummy movie prop firearms that I leave laying around as well. Only I know which ones are real.

 

[twinrider1]

... only need to store a few handguns and rifles...

How often do you need access?

How about just drywalling over them? If they don't have cases, put them in gun socks. You could make a 'shelf,' with a 2"x4" between studs. It might already have them in place as horizontal supports/fire blocks.

 

[JEDI]

bought a ~$60 inside wall one from walmart for my ar15.
simple keylock.
fine for my needs.

and 9mm hanging on wall via velcros and hidden by clothes is ingenius if no kids at home

 

[onza]

and 9mm hanging on wall hidden by clothes is ingenius if no kids at home

No kids here.

 

[Scarpozzi]

bought a ~$60 inside wall one from walmart for my ar15.
simple keylock.
fine for my needs.

and 9mm hanging on wall via velcros and hidden by clothes is ingenius if no kids at home

I just saw that at Walmart....shows up at $79.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Stack-On-I...Beige/11071334

This looks like the cheapest option for something that mounts between the studs, locks, and could potentially be hidden.

All jokes aside, I typically wouldn't care about locking my guns up, but there have been a string of burglaries around here and guns are often the target. In addition to that, we've got a baby and another on the way. Most of the gun violence in this country lately has been a result of 19-23 year olds getting guns from family/friends that weren't properly stored. All firearms sold come with documentation speaking of liability if kids under the age of 18 get a hold of a weapon that doesn't have a trigger lock or is accessible. I want them to be accessible by me, but my rifles won't be what I reach for first if an intruder is in the house....so I might as well lock them up.

 

[WackyDan]

If you don't lock them up when they are not in your immediate control then you are part of the problem. Mine are locked up when we are not in the house.

FYI - Push button wall safes for quick access to a couple of handguns and ammo are ideal.. No fucking keys or complex combinations to remember in a time of stress... keeps the guns moderately secure and at least you've taken that step. Keep the rest of the firearms secured in something a bit more durable.

http://www.deansafe.com/vli-41214-s-qv.html

I've got one of the small wall mounts and am ordering another for downstairs. Everything else is locked up.

"The deadbolt on the door is my gun safe" crowd really shouldn't own guns.

 

[skyking]

Hidden is as good as locked up, if you do a really good job of concealment. Nobody will have the time to go full CSI on your place to find it.

 

[WackyDan]

Hidden is as good as locked up, if you do a really good job of concealment. Nobody will have the time to go full CSI on your place to find it.

Then you've never been robbed. Thieves know where to look and they know all the tricks. I'm much happier knowing a curious kid (like my own) isn't going to find my handgun hanging on a nail behind some clothes in the closet... Trust me, I found everything my parents hid. It would sicken me to know that one or more of my firearms was involved in an accidental shooting much less robbed and used for something equally if not more horrible.

If you can afford the firearm, then you should afford to secure it properly.

 

[mizzou]

No kids here.

another risk to consider is how easily your gun can be stolen when you are burglarized

 

[onza]

another risk to consider is how easily your gun can be stolen when you are burglarized

it's a calculated risk I'm willing to risk.

 

[skyking]

Then you've never been robbed. Thieves know where to look and they know all the tricks. I'm much happier knowing a curious kid (like my own) isn't going to find my handgun hanging on a nail behind some clothes in the closet... Trust me, I found everything my parents hid. It would sicken me to know that one or more of my firearms was involved in an accidental shooting much less robbed and used for something equally if not more horrible.

If you can afford the firearm, then you should afford to secure it properly.

I've been robbed. We differ on what hidden means.

 

[Kadarin]

WTF? A gun owner who wants to lock up his guns?

Absolutely. In my opinion, if you don't have an immediate use for it then it should be locked in the safe. Not laying around the house.

 

[sourceninja]

My dad has a nice safe and collection of guns that I'll likely inherit one day. Until then I don't want to lose floor space and only need to store a few handguns and rifles.

I feel bad for my cousin...he bought a Field & Stream safe, locked all his guns in it...then his wife/kids/housekeeper.....someone moved the piece of paper that had the combination on it. He's been without his guns now for a month and a half....the only options are 1. find the combination 2. pay a locksmith to permanently damage the safe (cheaper to replace than repair after they crack it)

If it's a field & stream he should be able to open it himself in a few hours with a screw driver, hammer, and crowbar. Then buy a new one.

They are not safes. He could also probably go though the side with a fire axe.

 

[WackyDan]

If you can afford the firearm, then you should afford to secure it properly.

Again...Just for good measure.

 

[Puppies04]

The best hiding place is in plane site.

At the airport?

 

[Scarpozzi]

If it's a field & stream he should be able to open it himself in a few hours with a screw driver, hammer, and crowbar. Then buy a new one.

They are not safes. He could also probably go though the side with a fire axe.

I think that's basically what the locksmith told him....if they were to crack the safe, they'd essentially do enough damage that the mechanism would be busted....replacement would cost more than a new safe after labor.

It sucks because he just got that safe last Christmas.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

It's only 14 1/2 inches in between studs and even that isn't guaranteed. I always write the combination to safes down as a phone number in a Christmas card list and repeat it in an old fashioned little black book.