Originally posted by: Red Dawn
That's a rather Macho looking rifle.
Originally posted by: jpeyton
You getting a red-dot sight for it? COD4 sucks unless I have a RDS equipped.
I agree but there are people such as myself that like guns purely for range target shooting. Same with bows. I have never fired a bow or gun at anything living, not even a tree, and I am for extremely tight gun control even if that meant keeping my guns at a range under lock and key.Originally posted by: hiromizu
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: hiromizu
I shot one of those about a month ago. I believe they're 22 calibre. I'm anti-gun though so I can't say I'm happy for you to own one of those things.
I never understand the logic of someone being anti-inanimate object. As if the object was capiable of forming an intent of it's own.
And curiously enough guns are the only inanimate object people use this "logic" on.
You're not understanding the logic. Guns were and still are designed for destruction - people or animals or inanimate objects - with minimal effort and with the added safety of distance as well as giving the holder psychological power over a target.
I know where this is headed so I'll stop but that's my opinion and I'll close by saying that I feel that it is an unnecessary weapon in most parts of a modern society.
Originally posted by: Unheard
Nice. I also just added another gun to my collection. Picked up a Kel-Tec Sub2000 in 9mm. I'm an AK guy myself, but I do like the AR's quite a bit, and the RRA's are some of the best you can get. Are you going to drop the cash for an EOTech?
As for "converting" it to FAL, even with the tax stamp you can't convert a gun. It has to be made FAL @ the factory, and be manufactured prior to 1986 (I think thats the year). That is, unless you are a 01 FFL dealer. Then you can own whatever.
Originally posted by: freegeeks
nice, can you convert these things to full auto?
<- don't know sh*t about guns
Originally posted by: dakels
I agree but there are people such as myself that like guns purely for range target shooting. Same with bows. I have never fired a bow or gun at anything living, not even a tree, and I am for extremely tight gun control even if that meant keeping my guns at a range under lock and key.Originally posted by: hiromizu
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: hiromizu
I shot one of those about a month ago. I believe they're 22 calibre. I'm anti-gun though so I can't say I'm happy for you to own one of those things.
I never understand the logic of someone being anti-inanimate object. As if the object was capiable of forming an intent of it's own.
And curiously enough guns are the only inanimate object people use this "logic" on.
You're not understanding the logic. Guns were and still are designed for destruction - people or animals or inanimate objects - with minimal effort and with the added safety of distance as well as giving the holder psychological power over a target.
I know where this is headed so I'll stop but that's my opinion and I'll close by saying that I feel that it is an unnecessary weapon in most parts of a modern society.
You could argue with someething like lasertag or whatever for range shooting but I will argue that there is nothing simulated that replicates the feel of holding a rifle, guaging the shot, conditions, controlling - even autonomous functions of your body to squeeze off the shot... There is something very organic, peaceful, and satisfying about sniper shooting, even if it's origins and uses are natured in violence. It is unique IMO in the world of firearm shooting. That is often very evident in the owners of the guns too. Snipers are a different breed of people.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why the front handle?
I've fired shotguns with those and they are pretty much useless. I can get much better shot placement by shouldering any long gun and sighting down the length of the barrel. Besides, holding it with one of those handles while the weapon is shouldered doesn't feel as natural to me.
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why the front handle?
I've fired shotguns with those and they are pretty much useless. I can get much better shot placement by shouldering any long gun and sighting down the length of the barrel. Besides, holding it with one of those handles while the weapon is shouldered doesn't feel as natural to me.
After having shot my friends AR without a handle and then shooting it with the handle, for me, it feels a little easier to control. Plus if you shoot A LOT it will get hot around the standard hand guard.
Plus it's tacti-COOL. lol
Originally posted by: NetGuySC
My brother is going thru a divorce and his wife just sold his AR for $75.00
Originally posted by: dakels
I agree but there are people such as myself that like guns purely for range target shooting. Same with bows. I have never fired a bow or gun at anything living, not even a tree, and I am for extremely tight gun control even if that meant keeping my guns at a range under lock and key.Originally posted by: hiromizu
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: hiromizu
I shot one of those about a month ago. I believe they're 22 calibre. I'm anti-gun though so I can't say I'm happy for you to own one of those things.
I never understand the logic of someone being anti-inanimate object. As if the object was capiable of forming an intent of it's own.
And curiously enough guns are the only inanimate object people use this "logic" on.
You're not understanding the logic. Guns were and still are designed for destruction - people or animals or inanimate objects - with minimal effort and with the added safety of distance as well as giving the holder psychological power over a target.
I know where this is headed so I'll stop but that's my opinion and I'll close by saying that I feel that it is an unnecessary weapon in most parts of a modern society.
You could argue with someething like lasertag or whatever for range shooting but I will argue that there is nothing simulated that replicates the feel of holding a rifle, guaging the shot, conditions, controlling - even autonomous functions of your body to squeeze off the shot... There is something very organic, peaceful, and satisfying about sniper shooting, even if it's origins and uses are natured in violence. It is unique IMO in the world of firearm shooting. That is often very evident in the owners of the guns too. Snipers are a different breed of people.
Originally posted by: paintballwebs
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: paintballwebs
Originally posted by: freegeeks
nice, can you convert these things to full auto?
<- don't know sh*t about guns
at least in Wisconsin, that is very illegal without a Class 3 license.
is it easy to get such a license?
no, it is basically impossible after 9/11, but one of my friends uncles had one before and has a wide assortment of fun weapons
Originally posted by: Svnla
Nice. Is it the shortest (16") barrel possible or can you get one even shorter <legally>.
My meaning of organic, the aspects of feeling your environment, air, humidity, wind, laying on the ground. Things you don't generally consider when you are rattling off shots from an AR-15 or pistols.Originally posted by: hiromizu
Originally posted by: dakels
I agree but there are people such as myself that like guns purely for range target shooting. Same with bows. I have never fired a bow or gun at anything living, not even a tree, and I am for extremely tight gun control even if that meant keeping my guns at a range under lock and key.Originally posted by: hiromizu
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: hiromizu
I shot one of those about a month ago. I believe they're 22 calibre. I'm anti-gun though so I can't say I'm happy for you to own one of those things.
I never understand the logic of someone being anti-inanimate object. As if the object was capiable of forming an intent of it's own.
And curiously enough guns are the only inanimate object people use this "logic" on.
You're not understanding the logic. Guns were and still are designed for destruction - people or animals or inanimate objects - with minimal effort and with the added safety of distance as well as giving the holder psychological power over a target.
I know where this is headed so I'll stop but that's my opinion and I'll close by saying that I feel that it is an unnecessary weapon in most parts of a modern society.
You could argue with someething like lasertag or whatever for range shooting but I will argue that there is nothing simulated that replicates the feel of holding a rifle, guaging the shot, conditions, controlling - even autonomous functions of your body to squeeze off the shot... There is something very organic, peaceful, and satisfying about sniper shooting, even if it's origins and uses are natured in violence. It is unique IMO in the world of firearm shooting. That is often very evident in the owners of the guns too. Snipers are a different breed of people.
Not sure about "organic" since what I felt was completely the opposite but it made it that much more exciting to shoot. I have to admit that shooting at a range is good clean fun.
Originally posted by: gsellis
Nice. But I still want a HK 416.
Why? Why not just an AR-15 modified... Cool factor?Originally posted by: gsellis
Nice. But I still want a HK 416.
Originally posted by: dakels
Why? Why not just an AR-15 modified... Cool factor?Originally posted by: gsellis
Nice. But I still want a HK 416.
No offense to you gsellis, I'm speaking in general, but this is something that always bothers me. Be it hypocritical or not, owning guns because they are "cool" or "manly" is a real problem IMO. Reading some of the comments on the desert eagle videos on youtube make me really sad for humanity. The really funny (read sad) is a sizable portion of DE sales are fueled by FPS gamers.
Originally posted by: Ernie99
Originally posted by: dakels
Why? Why not just an AR-15 modified... Cool factor?Originally posted by: gsellis
Nice. But I still want a HK 416.
No offense to you gsellis, I'm speaking in general, but this is something that always bothers me. Be it hypocritical or not, owning guns because they are "cool" or "manly" is a real problem IMO. Reading some of the comments on the desert eagle videos on youtube make me really sad for humanity. The really funny (read sad) is a sizable portion of DE sales are fueled by FPS gamers.
One nice feature of the 416 is its gas piston, but you can find this on an AR-18 as well. Also, I seriously doubt desert eagle sales are fueled by gamers. Desert eagles are expensive and impractical.