YAFFFV: McDonald's Edition

[JackBurton]

So you are telling me when you knock a girl down it's fine to smash the persons head in with a half dozen kicks?

You back off and keep a eye on the woman unless she has a weapon.

Which women are you talking about? These women, yes. They are worthless and really shouldn't be around the general public.

 

[DayLaPaul]

I'd nullify that verdict if I were on his jury.

 

[alkemyst]

So you are telling me when you knock a girl down it's fine to smash the persons head in with a half dozen bashes with a metal pipe?

You back off and keep a eye on the woman unless she has a weapon or if you feel threatened you keep the person down and call the police.

If two women jump over a counter to assault me is different than me just knocking a woman down.

You don't know when someone has a gun until it's too late. Even if a knife WTF do I do once I let her up.

It's also a bit hard to keep someone down and call the police.

I take it you have not been in many fights.

Unless I know positively the person is not going to be a threat once I let them up, I usually will choke them out giving me some time to get the fuck out of dodge. Of course, many times it's pretty clear I am just walking away already.

In the past being nice got me pretty messed up.

 

[Nebbers]

If two women jump over a counter to assault me is different than me just knocking a woman down.

You don't know when someone has a gun until it's too late. Even if a knife WTF do I do once I let her up.

It's also a bit hard to keep someone down and call the police.

I take it you have not been in many fights.

Unless I know positively the person is not going to be a threat once I let them up, I usually will choke them out giving me some time to get the fuck out of dodge. Of course, many times it's pretty clear I am just walking away already.

In the past being nice got me pretty messed up.

Yeah...

being a woman doesn't automatically mean you don't have a weapon.

And FFS, chivalry has no place in assault response. I couldn't give a fuck what the gender of a person who's jumping over the counter to attack me at work happens to be.

 

[alkemyst]

Which women are you talking about? These women, yes. They are worthless and really shouldn't be around the general public.

QFT...I had an ex that I should have made an ex instantly when one night she almost tore my ear off. I felt it rip, saw blood down my shirt and so I delivered a chop to her throat lifting her off her feet (and my ear).

She later blamed it on drinking to much and being overly tired and frustrated (we were lost and on foot in 30 degree weather and dressed for more like 60-70's so I let it slide).

I also had some kid's crazy ass mom swing a 2x4 she hammered some nails through at me. I caught it and two nails went through my hand. I just laughed at her...she partially fainted. I told her she better run now.

She did.

Most guys that try to play Prince Charming haven't ever been really attacked by a chick. A women just smacking you is usually her just being pissy and not trying to hurt you.

 

[Newbian]

You don't know when someone has a gun until it's too late. Even if a knife WTF do I do once I let her up.

It's also a bit hard to keep someone down and call the police.

I take it you have not been in many fights.

And thus why you get the police involved.

There were enough people at the place to call them for you but the guy didn't do that but went beyond what was legal.

And the fight was over when they went down and were saying stop, going past it like he did was the wrong move as he found out and could had easily been manslaughter with a few more hits.

Just because they were acting like they were is not a excuse to bash in a persons head when they are defenseless but then again with your history with women I suppose some anger issues need to be worked out with some professional help and not a metal pipe.

 

[Newbian]

Yeah...

being a woman doesn't automatically mean you don't have a weapon.

And FFS, chivalry has no place in assault response. I couldn't give a fuck what the gender of a person who's jumping over the counter to attack me at work happens to be.

I said what to do if the person had a weapon or if you still felt threatened by the person.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Youtube comment - "Thats so Raven."

 

[Nebbers]

From what I can tell, the 'STOP' was all coming from the girl outside the kitchen, not anyone on the ground. Even if that's not the case, what's faster, the police or a bullet?

 

[Nebbers]

I said what to do if the person had a weapon or if you still felt threatened by the person.

Yes, because we all know that anyone with a piece of kitchen equipment will definitely be faster than a gun.

 

[Newbian]

Yes, because we all know that anyone with a piece of kitchen equipment will definitely be faster than a gun.

The problem with that is there was no gun to begin with and was never threatened with one and if they are laying on the floors defenseless it's easy to see if they are going for one, especially when it sounds like one was unconscious early on, while you stand over them or see if they had one while the other people contact the police.

Not to mention there were enough people around to restrain them if needed.

 

[goog40]

Lol, that's what happens when you step across the counter.

 

[Newbian]

Lol, that's what happens when you step across the counter.

Maybe they were going for the secret recipe.

 

[alkemyst]

And thus why you get the police involved.

There were enough people at the place to call them for you but the guy didn't do that but went beyond what was legal.

And the fight was over when they went down and were saying stop, going past it like he did was the wrong move as he found out and could had easily been manslaughter with a few more hits.

Just because they were acting like they were is not a excuse to bash in a persons head when they are defenseless but then again with your history with women I suppose some anger issues need to be worked out with some professional help and not a metal pipe.

I think you have absolutely no clue WTF you are talking about here.

First, I would have loved to have been able to call a cop when some jarhead began poking and proding at me. Hell, maybe I should have insisted he give me 2 mins to make that call.

Second, the girls that got their asses handed to them were not the ones yelling stop. It was little Ms. iPhone. That's another issue. You are far more likely to have someone with a cell phone photograph or videotape your plight than use that device to call you some help. In this case, Ms. iPhone thought her friends (or someone she relates too) were 'winning'...she was ok with that..only when the tables were turned did she care and yet still did not break the video to make a 911 call.

I didn't have any anger issues with the women I have been assaulted by, in reality I try to talk things out because no matter how good the fight goes I am usually hurt a bit to a lot and the risk of permanent injury goes up the older I get.

In today's world, it's really hard to say when someone is defenseless. Many people have been shot by someone they thought was no longer a threat. Even in our higher end school districts they have 14-15 year olds getting busted at school packing pistols, knives and the like. These are just kids randomly caught. There was one story of a couple kids that got caught skipping school at a 7-Eleven. The cop asked them prior to putting them in the squad car if there was anything in their bookbags he should know about.

The 14 year old kid volunteered they had two .40's, 500 rounds of ammo, three knifes, brassknuckles and a few other fucked up things. They thought it was ok since they were off campus to volunteer that even. It turned out they had been carrying that load everyday to school just in case someone picked a fight with them. The other kid (15 years old) that was with them had a 9mm, 3-4 loaded mags, brassknuckles and a switchblade.

In the article they specifically were not gender specific about the 'children'. Since they were minors we have no clue who they were.

 

[Newbian]

First, I would have loved to have been able to call a cop when some jarhead began poking and proding at me. Hell, maybe I should have insisted he give me 2 mins to make that call.

Second, the girls that got their asses handed to them were not the ones yelling stop. It was little Ms. iPhone. That's another issue. You are far more likely to have someone with a cell phone photograph or videotape your plight than use that device to call you some help. In this case, Ms. iPhone thought her friends (or someone she relates too) were 'winning'...she was ok with that..only when the tables were turned did she care and yet still did not break the video to make a 911 call.

Again in this situation there were enough people to restrain the women or contact the police that the employees would had done happily.

Bringing up a totally different situation does not fit here as it does not apply.

There was no defense to keep going at it after they were down with one unconscious and the other one was asking him to stop as in the reports as well as were his employees that were trying to restrain him and not just the one woman by the counter.

 

[goog40]

Maybe they were going for the secret recipe.

In that case, execution would have been the appropriate response.

 

[DayLaPaul]

The problem with that is there was no gun to begin with and was never threatened with one and if they are laying on the floors defenseless it's easy to see if they are going for one, especially when it sounds like one was unconscious early on, while you stand over them or see if they had one while the other people contact the police.

Not to mention there were enough people around to restrain them if needed.

Sorry but none of us can see what's going on on the floor behind the counter.

I'm no Internet Tough Guy™, but I do know that you're supposed to keep fighting until your opponent(s) stay down. Trying to get back up means you're trying to get back into the fight.

Now I'm not saying that's what was happening here, because we obviously can't see through the counter. For all we know both bitches might have been trying to pull ankle locks on him. What we do know is that he stops his attacks, then starts them back up again for some reason. It could have been blind rage, but then again it could have been a reaction to something the girls were attempting to do.

Let's not forget this guy just did 10 years of hard time. It's pretty much impossible for him to do that many years without getting into his fair share of fights. Jailhouse fights aren't usually aren't over until someone breaks them up.

 

[Nebbers]

The problem with that is there was no gun to begin with and was never threatened with one and if they are laying on the floors defenseless it's easy to see if they are going for one, especially when it sounds like one was unconscious early on, while you stand over them or see if they had one while the other people contact the police.

Not to mention there were enough people around to restrain them if needed.

Yeah, enough with you.

There is no way that could have been known. When someone jumps over the counter to attack a person, especially over *nothing*, you should be assuming that the possibility of them pulling a weapon on you is a very real one.

Maybe someone would have stepped in to restrain them. Maybe the cops would have arrived quickly. Maybe she didn't have a gun or a knife.

Problem is that's all just a bunch of maybes. Nobody stopped them before they got halfway into the kitchen, and they could have easily been concealing a weapon. I wouldn't doubt for one second that someone stupid enough to physically assault me in this manner would be stupid enough to shoot me.

 

[Balt]

Again in this situation there were enough people to restrain the women or contact the police that the employees would had done happily.

Eh, no one really had any interest in trying to restrain those two. They just stood there and watched them climb over the counter and didn't even say a word. It was clear they were going to reach him, and if he hadn't defended himself he'd probably have his eyes scratched out right now.

Now should have have kept beating them when they were down? Probably not. One of them was trying to get back up though, and at that point I don't believe he was thinking clearly. He probably went back into prison mode where you don't ever let someone get back up (I assume, since I've never actually been in prison).

 

[Wordplay]

So how long before the 'victims' sue McDonalds?

I'm sure they got a few calls from a lot of lawyers already.

cashier killed a kid back in 2001. fkkk him.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/mcdonalds/mcdonalds-beating-video-075836

And? That has nothing to do with this situation.

He was struck first, he retreated. They jumped over the counter and chased him, attempting to corner him. He defended himself with an improvised weapon. And he's in jail? Those morons got what they had coming.

And they will get a big fat check from the upcoming lawsuit.

I never said they didn't.

But it's one thing to stop them from coming at you and another thing to beat them when they pose no threat to the point of breaking a arm and fracturing the skull while the person is down.

Come after a cop like that and expect to be put down.

I say bravo to this man.

 

[SandEagle]

QFT...I had an ex that I should have made an ex instantly when one night she almost tore my ear off. I felt it rip, saw blood down my shirt and so I delivered a chop to her throat lifting her off her feet (and my ear).

She later blamed it on drinking to much and being overly tired and frustrated (we were lost and on foot in 30 degree weather and dressed for more like 60-70's so I let it slide).

I also had some kid's crazy ass mom swing a 2x4 she hammered some nails through at me. I caught it and two nails went through my hand. I just laughed at her...she partially fainted. I told her she better run now.

She did.

Most guys that try to play Prince Charming haven't ever been really attacked by a chick. A women just smacking you is usually her just being pissy and not trying to hurt you.

. you really are the green hulk. karate chops and nails through your ass? where do i sign up for your tough guy fan club?

 

[JackBurton]

Eh, no one really had any interest in trying to restrain those two. They just stood there and watched them climb over the counter and didn't even say a word. It was clear they were going to reach him, and if he hadn't defended himself he'd probably have his eyes scratched out right now.

Now should have have kept beating them when they were down? Probably not. One of them was trying to get back up though, and at that point I don't believe he was thinking clearly. He probably went back into prison mode where you don't ever let someone get back up (I assume, since I've never actually been in prison).

I bet the first thing that went through the woman's mind when she rounded that corner was, "OH FUCK!." The second thing was the metal pipe.

 

[Newbian]

Yeah, enough with you.

There is no way that could have been known. When someone jumps over the counter to attack a person, especially over *nothing*, you should be assuming that the possibility of them pulling a weapon on you is a very real one.

Maybe someone would have stepped in to restrain them. Maybe the cops would have arrived quickly. Maybe she didn't have a gun or a knife.

Problem is that's all just a bunch of maybes. Nobody stopped them before they got halfway into the kitchen, and they could have easily been concealing a weapon. I wouldn't doubt for one second that someone stupid enough to physically assault me in this manner would be stupid enough to shoot me.

No one said the first ones to defend himself were not necessary but when one is unconscious and the other was saying to stop as was reported it's clear the later hits to both after that were beyond the protection stage and went over the line.

He could easily determine if the one still conscious was a threat at that point while the other people called the police like was done.

I am fine with defending yourself but striking a unconscious person, a fractured skull will do that, multiple times after that is not valid defense and while the "flashbacks" to prison is something to point out that means this person needs a lot more help as you could never know what would trigger it next time.

 

[Newbian]

I bet the first thing that went through the woman's mind when she rounded that corner was, "OH FUCK!." The second thing was the metal pipe.

You are going to hell for making people laugh at that. :biggrin:

 

[ShawnD1]

You don't know when someone has a gun until it's too late. Even if a knife WTF do I do once I let her up.

This. He can't just let them up. How does he know they don't have a gun? All he knows is that they didn't pull out a gun. They could still reach into their pocket, pull it out, and shoot him. Nobody else is jumping to his rescue to hold them down either.

As usual, the racist courts will label him as a menace to society and lock him away for life.