YAEWBT - Yet another existing while black thread. Modified to all purpose harassment (includes other people of color)

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Vic

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Am I the only one who had to google pine straw to find out what it was? We never use that stuff out here in the Pacific NW. We use bark dust and cedar chips.
As for door-to-door solicitors, if they can't read the no soliciting sign, I just lie and tell them I'm a renter. Obviously there's no justification for shooting one though, regardless of how pushy.
 
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brycejones

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Don't you dare try to get your mother to the ER:


Gotta love this:

A local ABC affiliate spoke with state troopers about the PIT maneuver, which the department claimed was justified:

7OYS confirmed with state police that the trooper’s use of force was reviewed internally and justified.
We asked what a driver should do in this instance and ASP spokeswoman Cindy Murphy said: “Any medical emergency that would warrant high rates of speed necessitates calling an ambulance or dialing 911.”

The trooper performed the PIT maneuver on the exit ramp that literally leads to the hospital in front of the hospital sign.


However this is how well Little Rock's 911 system works:


Little Rock residents have reached out to the Working 4 You team, claiming they’ve waited 20 minutes or longer to get into Little Rock 911.
 

cytg111

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Does this fit here? On systemic racism, I think Jon provides a good explanation here

 
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Don't you dare try to get your mother to the ER:


Gotta love this:

A local ABC affiliate spoke with state troopers about the PIT maneuver, which the department claimed was justified:



The trooper performed the PIT maneuver on the exit ramp that literally leads to the hospital in front of the hospital sign.


However this is how well Little Rock's 911 system works:


Little Rock residents have reached out to the Working 4 You team, claiming they’ve waited 20 minutes or longer to get into Little Rock 911.

Well if the Troopers are willing to pay for that ambulance ride...

Seriously, this situation is such a perfect summary for how broken the US is. Life or death emergency? Well you should fucking wait (hmm, isn't wait times one of the claims for why America is superior in health care by brains for shit people eager to defend rampant unbounded greedy capitalism?), who cares if you or a loved one might die waiting.

There's been a few times I took family to the emergency room in the last 3 years. I drove them because it was always going to be faster than an ambulance, cost wasn't even a concern at the time (but it is a relief afterward seeing how much others are getting charged for rides). And that's not even with a barely functioning system like it sounds like Little Rock's 911 system is. (Maybe someone should ask their governor why their 911 system sucks so bad?)

Which, sure, emergencies shouldn't be carte blanche to risk further harm, but likewise speeding shouldn't give cops that either.
 
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QueBert

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That kid's gonna have nightmares for a long time I bet. That would be hard for an adult to go thru, a child? I couldn't imagine. And now every time he see's a police he's going to have flashbacks. How's he expected to ever trust the cops after this? Good for the father saying they won't accept an apology. Nothing worse than an apology that was clearly forced. The only thing the cop who did this would feel any sorrow about is how he might lose his job. *hopefully*

As a Caucasian person who's always had a good amount of friends of color, stories like this make me think how lucky I am to never have to worry about being profiled. I feel bad knowing my friends will never have that luxury though.
 

HomerJS

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Arrested for something cop should have just told the boy not to do and escorted him into lawyers office to inform mother. I have no direct evidence of this but if that were a 10 year old white girl she woud not have been treated that way. My evidence is anecdotal based on how black people tend to be treated by the CJS.
 

APU_Fusion

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Arrested for something cop should have just told the boy not to do and escorted him into lawyers office to inform mother. I have no direct evidence of this but if that were a 10 year old white girl she woud not have been treated that way. My evidence is anecdotal based on how black people tend to be treated by the CJS.
shakes head in wonder at the cruelty of parts of this country.
 

FirNaTine

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Well if the Troopers are willing to pay for that ambulance ride...

Seriously, this situation is such a perfect summary for how broken the US is. Life or death emergency? Well you should fucking wait (hmm, isn't wait times one of the claims for why America is superior in health care by brains for shit people eager to defend rampant unbounded greedy capitalism?), who cares if you or a loved one might die waiting.

There's been a few times I took family to the emergency room in the last 3 years. I drove them because it was always going to be faster than an ambulance, cost wasn't even a concern at the time (but it is a relief afterward seeing how much others are getting charged for rides). And that's not even with a barely functioning system like it sounds like Little Rock's 911 system is. (Maybe someone should ask their governor why their 911 system sucks so bad?)

Which, sure, emergencies shouldn't be carte blanche to risk further harm, but likewise speeding shouldn't give cops that either.
Something to keep in mind, the closest hospital may not be the best hospital for some emergencies. If I have someone experiencing symptom of a stroke I do two part assessment. One is basically a presumptive stroke diagnosis, the second is a severity scale. If there is a high level of severity, I will bypass the closest ED and get them to a specialty stroke center that can offer additional treatments for large vessel occlusions. Most decent sized hospitals can give medications to dissolve a clot for strokes, but typically only large specialty hospitals can go actually remove the clot with a catheter. Patient outcomes are significantly better if they can quickly be delivered to a specialty center with their teams being activated prior to arrival. Even on a smaller level stroke being seen in a local ED we can have them clear a CT room to expedite treatment of them on arrival, and have their stroke team standing by for us.

For someone having chest pain, I can do an initial 12 lead EKG, and if they are showing signs of active heart attack (STEMI) on the EKG I transmit it electronically to the ED and have their cardiac catheterization lab either opened up if it is off hours, or a bed made available in it for an emergency case even if they are already open. Cardiac cath teams can often be off site, but on call at night, and based on my EKG they can be started in before the patient even gets to the ED.

There's also specialty referral centers for eye injuries, severe hand/foot injuries, burn injuries, major trauma, high risk maternity, etc that might be better seen elsewhere.

We also track the number of ambulances waiting to offload patients, and their overall ability to accept patients. Sometimes going to a hospital further away can actually get someone seen by a doctor sooner, if we go to a hospital with lower patient wait times.

Unfortunately, not all EMS systems are adequately funded and staffed and a number of systems are seeing units being held up in the hospital waiting for beds, preventing them from being available for additional calls. So there may be cases where the quickest way to get them to appropriate care is a private vehicle.

I do think it was a bit risky having a teenage driver try to get their parent to a hospital though. Relatively inexperienced driver in a high stress situation, driving at higher than other traffic speeds is a recipe for an accident, but the Trooper seemed very quick to PIT them as he approached. Not sure if there is more video from Little Rock PD prior showing more of an actual pursuit. Performing a PIT on an exit ramp is safer than on the highway itself due to the lack of other traffic and lower speed, but doing it right near a hospital seems more of a case of can they do it, vs should they do it.

And I am not sure of their guidelines, but if they truly cared about the mother, one of the other officers on scene could have very quickly given her a ride to the ED entrance, while the rest remained to sort out the driving situation. Uncuffing an 18 year old that just went through that and having them drive the mother seems like a less than ideal choice.
 

amenx

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Black Truckers Denied Service At Denny's, Kicked Out For Being Black.


Who the hell owns the chain? A Klansman?

From LA Times, 1994 - Denny’s Restaurants Settle Bias Suits for $54 Million...

WASHINGTON — U.S. government officials and civil rights advocates, hailing a “new partnership” dedicated to weeding out racism in commercial establishments, announced a record $54.4-million discrimination settlement with the Denny’s restaurant chain Tuesday...

The firm was accused in the lawsuits of fostering a discriminatory corporate culture and refusing to serve blacks at some of its 1,400 Denny’s restaurants across the country...

 

HomerJS

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Black Truckers Denied Service At Denny's, Kicked Out For Being Black.


Who the hell owns the chain? A Klansman?

From LA Times, 1994 - Denny’s Restaurants Settle Bias Suits for $54 Million...

WASHINGTON — U.S. government officials and civil rights advocates, hailing a “new partnership” dedicated to weeding out racism in commercial establishments, announced a record $54.4-million discrimination settlement with the Denny’s restaurant chain Tuesday...

The firm was accused in the lawsuits of fostering a discriminatory corporate culture and refusing to serve blacks at some of its 1,400 Denny’s restaurants across the country...

This country sickens me. The people who continue to make excuses to its over racism sicken me (referring to the people in this forum). We continue to move backwards on the issue of civil rights. Republicans continue to everything they can to disenfranchise black people. While that isn't related to this case anyone on the right would just make excuses for Dennys and tell us black people to stop being victims.

I posted in another thread have you ever boycotted anything I mentioned Dennys and reminded people why. Despite Alito claiming racism is over things haven't changed much and are getting worse.

If you listen to some people here, it's at least equally the fault of those black truck drivers. Companies who do this kind of thing will only stop if sued into poverty.

MLK's granddaughter summed it up, "I now have fewer rights then the day I was born"
 

Lanyap

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Black Truckers Denied Service At Denny's, Kicked Out For Being Black.


Who the hell owns the chain? A Klansman?

From LA Times, 1994 - Denny’s Restaurants Settle Bias Suits for $54 Million...

WASHINGTON — U.S. government officials and civil rights advocates, hailing a “new partnership” dedicated to weeding out racism in commercial establishments, announced a record $54.4-million discrimination settlement with the Denny’s restaurant chain Tuesday...

The firm was accused in the lawsuits of fostering a discriminatory corporate culture and refusing to serve blacks at some of its 1,400 Denny’s restaurants across the country...




Somebody needs to pick up a phone and call:

Denny’s long-standing commitment to diversity, equity and inclusion has earned us a number of national, regional and local awards and recognition. However, no initiative or program can truly be successful without individual commitment from each of us.
APRIL KELLY-DRUMMOND
VICE PRESIDENT, DIVERSITY, EQUITY & INCLUSION

 

Lanyap

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Another racially upset MAGA_Karen. I hope she has a good job because I want her to get fired.


“I’m sending it to Trump,” she claimed. “Maybe he can do something, and then Obama can sue him.”

The woman storms off again before turning around to make another dig at the employee: “Equal my a*s,” she yelled. “You’re not equal.”

 
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HomerJS

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Trump getting elected and Republicans courting white nationalists have given license to people like her to be openly racist and it’s getting worse.
 
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HomerJS

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How do you know they were members of the Republican Party?
You are just guessing and assuming.

In the article they didn't know who exactly hung the signs.
Because white nationalists are not Democrats and Democrats don't support and associate with white nationalists.
 
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