YACT: Why must you push in the clutch on a MT car to turn it on...

[Goosemaster]

Is it just meant for consistency?

I can see it being a mechanically bypasssable option. Is that the case?

 

[CraigRT]

It's most likely a safety thing... it makes perfect sense to me...

 

[state 08]

Quit whining.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
It's most likely a safety thing... it makes perfect sense to me...

ah. That and keeping the process of pushing it in to make any changes are the reasons I could come up with.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: state 08
Quit whining.

Dude....I can push the clutch in at a 10th grade level

 

[Ramma2]

Since you will have to push it in right after you start anyways, its not like an extra step or anything.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Heh, the clutch interlock thing is relatively new, I remember some 70's era vehicles I drove that didn't have them, made life exciting if you forgot to take it out of gear or push down on the pedal, expecially if the engine actually started.

 

[laurenlex]

So if some dumbshlt turns the key and the car is in gear in does not lurch forward (or backward) and smash into a car or the front of your garage.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Don't have to do it on my car.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: laurenlex
So if some dumbshlt turns the key and the car is in gear in does not lurch forward (or backward) and smash into a car or the front of your garage.

I am sure they could set it to only turn on without the push if it was in neutral, but yeah, seeing as how my car is setup, you are correct.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Don't have to do it on my car.

what kind of car?

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Is it just meant for consistency?

I can see it being a mechanically bypasssable option. Is that the case?

no its a safety thing.. just incase some moron forgets its in gear and the car jumps ahead.

you can remove the safety

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: CraigRT
It's most likely a safety thing... it makes perfect sense to me...

ah. That and keeping the process of pushing it in to make any changes are the reasons I could come up with.

because theres a interlock switch in the clutch pedal .... putting another layer of logic to check for shifter position wouldbe pointless and costly .

Look for a switch near the pedal if you wanna take it off .... my 96 Audi a4 doesn't have it and I'm glad. Annoying ass thing

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
It's most likely a safety thing... it makes perfect sense to me...

Yup, my truck is like that as well.

 

[luckysnafu]

On my newer car there is a switch that requires the clutch to be pressed in for the car to start. On my older car that is not there and I can start the car without pushing the clutch in, its pretty sweet in the winter when you start you car without having to get in it.

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Is it just meant for consistency?

I can see it being a mechanically bypasssable option. Is that the case?

no its a safety thing.. just incase some moron forgets its in gear and the car jumps ahead.

you can remove the safety

Exactly. Although its illegal to do so in most states. Most of the remote start/alarm kits that are out will give you the information you need to bypass it so you can install the remote start on a MT. Although none of the professional install places will do it for you (BB, CC, Car Toys, etc.) so you have to do it yourself.

 

[OrganizedChaos]

1) its like that for ease of wiring. they can just stick the clutch safety switch in series with the hot lead to the starter relay.

2)on many vehicles its easily turned off. this is especially popular with rockcrawlers, then can put there truck in double or triple low and start it there without clutching or using the gas. useful for starting and stopping on hills. however they have final gear ratios of 150:1 and lower.

http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/minutemods/clutchbypass/

 

[dxkj]

Hrm, I thought my parents 1994 tempo didnt have that because i would go out and start it in the morning and if i forgot it was in gear, turning it over would send it lurching

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Is it just meant for consistency?

I can see it being a mechanically bypasssable option. Is that the case?

no its a safety thing.. just incase some moron forgets its in gear and the car jumps ahead.

you can remove the safety

Exactly. Although its illegal to do so in most states. Most of the remote start/alarm kits that are out will give you the information you need to bypass it so you can install the remote start on a MT. Although none of the professional install places will do it for you (BB, CC, Car Toys, etc.) so you have to do it yourself.

How do you know the car is not in gear with a remote starter on a manual tranny? Manual transmission shifters are purely mechanical, there's only a sensor for reverse lights

 

[AMDZen]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Is it just meant for consistency?

I can see it being a mechanically bypasssable option. Is that the case?

no its a safety thing.. just incase some moron forgets its in gear and the car jumps ahead.

you can remove the safety

Exactly. Although its illegal to do so in most states. Most of the remote start/alarm kits that are out will give you the information you need to bypass it so you can install the remote start on a MT. Although none of the professional install places will do it for you (BB, CC, Car Toys, etc.) so you have to do it yourself.

How do you know the car is not in gear with a remote starter on a manual tranny? Manual transmission shifters are purely mechanical, there's only a sensor for reverse lights

Exactly. Thats why its illegal, and no place will install it for you. But I know a few people that have done it, and some of them even rigged a switch for it if its in gear, the remote start won't activate. The others are simply conscious of it at all times. Never leave it in gear, use the e-brake instead, and if you ever vallet or let a friend drive, take it to Discount Tire, the dealership for maintenance, etc. Be conscious of that as well.

I NEVER leave my car in gear, i just use the e-brake. It really pisses me off because everytime I go to discount tire or something, the i love you that drove it leaves it in gear and I kill my car because I always do things in order unconsciously. Clutch in, start car, clutch out so I can put my seatbelt on - LURCHH, the car springs forward and dies. What the hell is the point of leaving it in gear any way?? Unless your on a hill, at which time unless you have sh!tty brakes, its pretty much pointless even then. I really can't stand people that do that with my car.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Don't have to do it on my car.

what kind of car?

2000 Impreza Turbo

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
1) its like that for ease of wiring. they can just stick the clutch safety switch in series with the hot lead to the starter relay.

2)on many vehicles its easily turned off. this is especially popular with rockcrawlers, then can put there truck in double or triple low and start it there without clutching or using the gas. useful for starting and stopping on hills. however they have final gear ratios of 150:1 and lower.

http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/minutemods/clutchbypass/

THANK YOU

 

[psteng19]

I guess push button start cars with MT aren't going to be as convenient as the AT counterparts.

 

[JulesMaximus]

To prevent you from starting the car in gear.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Is it just meant for consistency?

I can see it being a mechanically bypasssable option. Is that the case?

no its a safety thing.. just incase some moron forgets its in gear and the car jumps ahead.

you can remove the safety

Exactly. Although its illegal to do so in most states. Most of the remote start/alarm kits that are out will give you the information you need to bypass it so you can install the remote start on a MT. Although none of the professional install places will do it for you (BB, CC, Car Toys, etc.) so you have to do it yourself.

How do you know the car is not in gear with a remote starter on a manual tranny? Manual transmission shifters are purely mechanical, there's only a sensor for reverse lights

Exactly. Thats why its illegal, and no place will install it for you. But I know a few people that have done it, and some of them even rigged a switch for it if its in gear, the remote start won't activate. The others are simply conscious of it at all times. Never leave it in gear, use the e-brake instead, and if you ever vallet or let a friend drive, take it to Discount Tire, the dealership for maintenance, etc. Be conscious of that as well.

I NEVER leave my car in gear, i just use the e-brake. It really pisses me off because everytime I go to discount tire or something, the i love you that drove it leaves it in gear and I kill my car because I always do things in order unconsciously. Clutch in, start car, clutch out so I can put my seatbelt on - LURCHH, the car springs forward and dies. What the hell is the point of leaving it in gear any way?? Unless your on a hill, at which time unless you have sh!tty brakes, its pretty much pointless even then. I really can't stand people that do that with my car.

You're an idiot. You should always leave your car in gear, preferably reverse, to keep it from rolling. Parking brakes are not always reliable and you should never rely on it exclusively. The guy at Discount tire knows what he's doing and clearly you don't.