YACT: Should you be able to get 200K+ out of your average new car?

tnitsuj

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Assuming proper maintenance of course.


My 5 year old honda has 123k miles on it with zero problems other than an oxygen sensor. Runs the same as when I bought it. I can easily see it surpassing 200K in pretty much the same condition it is now. Kind of sad as it doesn't give me a reason to buy a new car.
 

TheAudit

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Originally posted by: agnitrate
It depends on the manufacturer and the engine.

-silver

I would agree with you.
200k seems reasonable if you maintain the car but I would bet on some catastrophic repairs needed to reach the 200k plateau with some brands of cars.
 

Red

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Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.
 

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Yes, and definitely out of good imports. My 93 sentra has 175k on it now and like you its reliability gives me no good reason to buy a new car, though I badly want one.
 

beer

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My 98 Ford Contour isn't going to make it to 100K I don't think.

List of sh!t that broke:

I've already had the engine replaced, twice, before 36K miles (Zetec/head gasket recalls)

Had O2 sensor go

Had alternator go

Electrical system is already intermittent, sometimes I can't roll down the back windows from the drver's seat, although the people sitting in the back can. And sometimes I can, and they can't.

And that's only with 55K miles.
 

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Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.
I think mercs, smoking and all, can reach pretty high miles. I'd definitely put my money on a japanese car though than a dodge neon :) You can bet your ass an SRT4 motor won't hit 200k without some work on it.
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.

I don't know about magic, but I would probably rate most domestics as less likely to reach 200k without major repairs. Is that just my import bias showing through?
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: Elemental007
My 98 Ford Contour isn't going to make it to 100K I don't think.

List of sh!t that broke:

I've already had the engine replaced, twice, before 36K miles (Zetec/head gasket recalls)

Had O2 sensor go

Had alternator go

Electrical system is already intermittent, sometimes I can't roll down the back windows from the drver's seat, although the people sitting in the back can. And sometimes I can, and they can't.

And that's only with 55K miles.


That sucks. 55k miles should just be breaking in a 98.
 

Rent

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Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.

Yeah, sure it does
rolleye.gif


Before I wrecked my '89 Beretta GT, it had 117k on it and the motor tranny were in top shape. Some of the interior was starting to show its plasticness, but otherwise, the car would have been easily able to make it to 200k.

Right now, my '90 Ranger has 114k on it. Still running strong.

My parents '90 GMC Safari has 140k on it and its showing no signs of stopping now.

The key is proper maintenence. It doesn't matter what brand of car you buy as long as you don't thrash the living crap out of the car and fix what you do end up breaking. The only real thing thats had to be replaced on any of the above would be a water pump, alternator, or maybe changing the timing belt.
 

beer

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Elemental007
My 98 Ford Contour isn't going to make it to 100K I don't think.

List of sh!t that broke:

I've already had the engine replaced, twice, before 36K miles (Zetec/head gasket recalls)

Had O2 sensor go

Had alternator go

Electrical system is already intermittent, sometimes I can't roll down the back windows from the drver's seat, although the people sitting in the back can. And sometimes I can, and they can't.

And that's only with 55K miles.


That sucks. 55k miles should just be breaking in a 98.

I's a very light-duty car. I really don't put more than 800 miles a month on it when I am at college, so I have no intention of getting rid of it until I graduate, barring another major problem.

Oh yea, and anyone that thinks I don't maintain my car, I've done everything right with it. The engines failed because of known head gasket conditions. There is nothing that I could have done, as a driver, to damage the alternator or O2 sensor. Ford just sucks balls and that's a fact. "If you haven't looked at ford lately, look again" my ass. I'm never buying another Ford for the rest of my life and as far as I'm concerned, the company can tank and I wouldn't give a flying fsck.
 

Blieb

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I have a 98 S10 with 88,000 miles on it ...

Nothing too bad ... but plenty of little odds and ends have been repaired ... most recently my catalitic converter and muffler (only $225 total from a small local shop!) ...

I've basically decided to stop getting my service done at the dealership to save money on any future repairs.

The few repairs I had sub 50,000 miles were mostly due to my irresponsible offroad driving when I first got it ...
 

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.

I don't know about magic, but I would probably rate most domestics as less likely to reach 200k without major repairs. Is that just my import bias showing through?
Although billy hick bob will probably come in and say how his ford ranger just clicked over to 400k and all he does is change the oil every 100k miles, yeah no doubt the import engines will reach higher miles with less maintenance.
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.
I think mercs, smoking and all, can reach pretty high miles. I'd definitely put my money on a japanese car though than a dodge neon :) You can bet your ass an SRT4 motor won't hit 200k without some work on it.

hey fook off buddy, :p my 2k1 R/T has 87,000 kms and no signs of showing it's first mechanical problem yet! :)
 

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Originally posted by: CraigRT
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.
I think mercs, smoking and all, can reach pretty high miles. I'd definitely put my money on a japanese car though than a dodge neon :) You can bet your ass an SRT4 motor won't hit 200k without some work on it.

hey fook off buddy, :p my 2k1 R/T has 87,000 kms and no signs of showing it's first mechanical problem yet! :)
You'll blow a gasket next year ;)

 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.
I think mercs, smoking and all, can reach pretty high miles. I'd definitely put my money on a japanese car though than a dodge neon :) You can bet your ass an SRT4 motor won't hit 200k without some work on it.

hey fook off buddy, :p my 2k1 R/T has 87,000 kms and no signs of showing it's first mechanical problem yet! :)
You'll blow a gasket next year ;)

20 bucks says i won't. they've improved the HG's ten fold.. i bet i won't ever have to change it as long as i own this car.
 

tnitsuj

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.
I think mercs, smoking and all, can reach pretty high miles. I'd definitely put my money on a japanese car though than a dodge neon :) You can bet your ass an SRT4 motor won't hit 200k without some work on it.

Its not really fair to say the SRT4 will need major work. Those cars are almost guaranteed to be hammered on, unlike say your average Buick or Toyota.
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: tnitsuj
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.
I think mercs, smoking and all, can reach pretty high miles. I'd definitely put my money on a japanese car though than a dodge neon :) You can bet your ass an SRT4 motor won't hit 200k without some work on it.

Its not really fair to say the SRT4 will need major work. Those cars are almost guaranteed to be hammered on, unlike say your average Buick or Toyota.

even though i agreethe SRT-4 won't be a high miles car. i was reading about that engine... it's built like a tank...... i was quite impressed.

 

slag

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.
I think mercs, smoking and all, can reach pretty high miles. I'd definitely put my money on a japanese car though than a dodge neon :) You can bet your ass an SRT4 motor won't hit 200k without some work on it.

hey fook off buddy, :p my 2k1 R/T has 87,000 kms and no signs of showing it's first mechanical problem yet! :)
You'll blow a gasket next year ;)

And then the tranny will die...

They all do.


 

geno

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.
I think mercs, smoking and all, can reach pretty high miles. I'd definitely put my money on a japanese car though than a dodge neon :) You can bet your ass an SRT4 motor won't hit 200k without some work on it.

hey fook off buddy, :p my 2k1 R/T has 87,000 kms and no signs of showing it's first mechanical problem yet! :)
You'll blow a gasket next year ;)

Funny thing, but Dodge 4 cyls got bad raps for head gasket issues from back in the early 90s. For some reason the TBI motors (non turbo) were more prone to head gasket failure than the turbo ones! Kinda odd... But my guess is the SRT Motors will be fine up to 150k with your average driver who beats on it from time to time.
 

DaWhim

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my sister told me she and her bf test drove a WV with about 500K miless on it! the guy was selling it for $500 :D
 

Red

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Originally posted by: Rent
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.

Yeah, sure it does
rolleye.gif


Before I wrecked my '89 Beretta GT, it had 117k on it and the motor tranny were in top shape. Some of the interior was starting to show its plasticness, but otherwise, the car would have been easily able to make it to 200k.

Right now, my '90 Ranger has 114k on it. Still running strong.

My parents '90 GMC Safari has 140k on it and its showing no signs of stopping now.

The key is proper maintenence. It doesn't matter what brand of car you buy as long as you don't thrash the living crap out of the car and fix what you do end up breaking. The only real thing thats had to be replaced on any of the above would be a water pump, alternator, or maybe changing the timing belt.

Uhg, I should have put <sarcasm> quotes around the failure @ 100k miles thing I posted, noone is seeing it =)

My personal opinion is that with all factors equal (maintenance mainly) certain brands of cars will be much more reliable than others. Their track records show this. I'm sure there is every single type of car out there that has over 200k miles on... I'm sure there are even newer VW's with 150k+ miles and not even have an electrical problem (well, that is pushing it I guess, but you get my point). All makes and models of cars have exceptions with extremely high miles, but each car has a typical record for how many breakdowns per 100 cars they have.
 

Rent

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Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Originally posted by: Rent
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Maitenance is the key.

Oh, and it has to be a Toyota, Nissan, Honda or Subaru.

If you buy anything else, it magically fails @ 100k miles.

Yeah, sure it does
rolleye.gif


Before I wrecked my '89 Beretta GT, it had 117k on it and the motor tranny were in top shape. Some of the interior was starting to show its plasticness, but otherwise, the car would have been easily able to make it to 200k.

Right now, my '90 Ranger has 114k on it. Still running strong.

My parents '90 GMC Safari has 140k on it and its showing no signs of stopping now.

The key is proper maintenence. It doesn't matter what brand of car you buy as long as you don't thrash the living crap out of the car and fix what you do end up breaking. The only real thing thats had to be replaced on any of the above would be a water pump, alternator, or maybe changing the timing belt.

Uhg, I should have put <sarcasm> quotes around the failure @ 100k miles thing I posted, noone is seeing it =)

My personal opinion is that with all factors equal (maintenance mainly) certain brands of cars will be much more reliable than others. Their track records show this. I'm sure there is every single type of car out there that has over 200k miles on... I'm sure there are even newer VW's with 150k+ miles and not even have an electrical problem (well, that is pushing it I guess, but you get my point). All makes and models of cars have exceptions with extremely high miles, but each car has a typical record for how many breakdowns per 100 cars they have.

Its all proportional. When you have a larger amount of people buying a certain vehicle, there are always going to be retarded people who break their car and call it a POS.

Some brands do have horrible problems. I just don't think its fair to lump all domestics into the sh!t pile. Every GM car I've seen that people have taken half assed care of has lasted long after most people think they should.