YACT! My Clutch is about 99% gone. (RANT) UPDATED AGAIN! Make that 100% gone. Updates fixed and broken again!

[bigredguy]

I just replaced both the Master and slave cylinders on my car last week and had the mechanics check out the entire drive train while they were at it. I thought i noticed the clutch slipping a little but not too much. Then today while i was driving it went from slipping a little to slipping incredibly bad.

I managed to nurse it back to the house but that's as far as it's going to get. One thing that bothers me is that one of the cylinders was back ordered and would have taken another 5 days to get so they used one a combination of my old housing and new componets from another cylinder not compatable with mine. I didn't want to rush it but i was on vacation and needed to drive back to get to work.

So aggrivating...


Sorry about any typos, I've had a really bad day.

UPDATE

So i did a quick test today to hopefully gain a little more insight into what might be wrong. It seems that i now have a lot more grab in the clutch which makes me think (with what little car intelligence i have) it's not the clutch itself but hopefully the fudged slave cylinder. Any insight you guys might have will extremely helpful. Thanks in advance.


Update

So it's been about 2 weeks since i had the clutch redone and I AM HAVING THE SAME FVCKING PROBLEM. WTF is going one here, I have no farking clue what is wrong or why the mechanic didn't the problem. I expect that when i pay $1200 to fix something it gets fixed! I haven't contacted them yet (will right after this post), but right now i am about 100 miles from the repair show and i am so pissed off right now.
Do i need a new transmission or what. Any ideas lemme know.

 

[NutBucket]

How many miles did you put on that clutch and what kind of car is it?

 

[guapo337]

feel better? i hate slipping clutches.

 

[PCMarine]

Originally posted by: NutBucket
How many miles did you put on that clutch and what kind of car is it?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: PCMarine

Originally posted by: NutBucket
How many miles did you put on that clutch and what kind of car is it?

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: NutBucket
How many miles did you put on that clutch and what kind of car is it?

I just recently bought it actually, which only makes things worse (no warranty or lemon clause). 1995 Isuzu Rodeo V6 4wd, with almost 99,000 miles. I had a '93 before and really liked it and the '95 is almost identical.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Maybe, just a maybe, the repaired slave cylinder is hanging up, not permitting the
clutch to fully engage or was not adjusted properly.

I hold out a little hope.........:sun:

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Maybe, just a maybe, the repaired slave cylinder is hanging up, not permitting the
clutch to fully engage or was not adjusted properly.

I hold out a little hope.........:sun:

I really, really hope so. Any idea on how to test this?

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Maybe, just a maybe, the repaired slave cylinder is hanging up, not permitting the
clutch to fully engage or was not adjusted properly.

I hold out a little hope.........:sun:

I really, really hope so. Any idea on how to test this?

Replace it with another slave. First step would be to re-bleed the system just in case. I would say the previous owner rode that clutch if it gave up at 99k. My last clutch went 150k and probably could have gone another 50k. I know friends have gotten 200k out of their clutches. Granted, they owned these cars from the time they were new.

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Maybe, just a maybe, the repaired slave cylinder is hanging up, not permitting the
clutch to fully engage or was not adjusted properly.

I hold out a little hope.........:sun:

I really, really hope so. Any idea on how to test this?

Replace it with another slave. First step would be to re-bleed the system just in case. I would say the previous owner rode that clutch if it gave up at 99k. My last clutch went 150k and probably could have gone another 50k. I know friends have gotten 200k out of their clutches. Granted, they owned these cars from the time they were new.

Somewhat of a tangent but if it is the slave and the shop i took it to is 500 miles away, is it possible to hold them liable for any of this? I am guessing no and that i'll just have to take it up the tailpipe. Just really upset that i just spent $400 to fix my clutch problems and now i have even bigger problems.

 

[bigredguy]

double post

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: galvanizedyankee
Maybe, just a maybe, the repaired slave cylinder is hanging up, not permitting the
clutch to fully engage or was not adjusted properly.

I hold out a little hope.........:sun:

I really, really hope so. Any idea on how to test this?

Replace it with another slave. First step would be to re-bleed the system just in case. I would say the previous owner rode that clutch if it gave up at 99k. My last clutch went 150k and probably could have gone another 50k. I know friends have gotten 200k out of their clutches. Granted, they owned these cars from the time they were new.

heh, the 2nd clutch on a turbo awd talon used that i used to own didnt last more than 40k . After that i went with ACT 2600 and never had that problem again

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Somewhat of a tangent but if it is the slave and the shop i took it to is 500 miles away, is it possible to hold them liable for any of this? I am guessing no and that i'll just have to take it up the tailpipe. Just really upset that i just spent $400 to fix my clutch problems and now i have even bigger problems.

You've got problems already if they charged you $400 to replace a slave cylinder. That's a $80 part (assuming you bought it new from a dealer) and MAYBE 2 hours labor.

 

[mandala]

So you paid some mechanic $400 to fix the slave cylinder, but he didn't bother to look at the clutch to see if it was worn? Sounds kind of fishy to me....

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: halik
heh, the 2nd clutch on a turbo awd talon used that i used to own didnt last more than 40k . After that i went with ACT 2600 and never had that problem again

Was it one of those Autozone clutches or OEM? After experience with "parts store" clutches I'll never use one of those again. I like my Clutch Masters

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Somewhat of a tangent but if it is the slave and the shop i took it to is 500 miles away, is it possible to hold them liable for any of this? I am guessing no and that i'll just have to take it up the tailpipe. Just really upset that i just spent $400 to fix my clutch problems and now i have even bigger problems.

You've got problems already if they charged you $400 to replace a slave cylinder. That's a $80 part (assuming you bought it new from a dealer) and MAYBE 2 hours labor.

Was master and slave cylinder actually so $220 parts and $180 labor and tax.

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: mandala
So you paid some mechanic $400 to fix the slave cylinder, but he didn't bother to look at the clutch to see if it was worn? Sounds kind of fishy to me....

I know I am hoping they did and its something to do with the old housing they kept on there.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Somewhat of a tangent but if it is the slave and the shop i took it to is 500 miles away, is it possible to hold them liable for any of this? I am guessing no and that i'll just have to take it up the tailpipe. Just really upset that i just spent $400 to fix my clutch problems and now i have even bigger problems.

You've got problems already if they charged you $400 to replace a slave cylinder. That's a $80 part (assuming you bought it new from a dealer) and MAYBE 2 hours labor.

Was master and slave cylinder actually so $220 parts and $180 labor and tax.

Ok, that's not so bad I suppose. I guess you should check the slave since the mechanic did rebuild it. Always room for error there.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

I have no pic to post.

There is a lever that comes out of the bell housing. Internally it works the clutch throw-out bearing. Externally it is worked by the slave cyl. There must be free movement or free play
at the slave when the clutch pedal is released. Slide under your Rodeo on some cardboard
and check with your hand. Generally there is a spring that holds the lever on the slave push rod. There should be a 1/4" of travel, at the least..

Hope that made sense......:sun:

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: mandala
So you paid some mechanic $400 to fix the slave cylinder, but he didn't bother to look at the clutch to see if it was worn? Sounds kind of fishy to me....

If you pull apart a housing to look at the clutch you replace it. Period. A clutch is $100. Looking at the clutch to see if it is worn costs just as much to install a new one minus the price of the clutch. In other words, if you look at it, you may as well replace it.

You paid the mechanics to fudge the job, you admitted to it. You don't really get to complain any more. To me, it sounds like the slave is hanging up, not allowing full release of the pressure plate. Get it fixed NOW before you glaze the clutch and really do need a new one.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: halik
heh, the 2nd clutch on a turbo awd talon used that i used to own didnt last more than 40k . After that i went with ACT 2600 and never had that problem again

Was it one of those Autozone clutches or OEM? After experience with "parts store" clutches I'll never use one of those again. I like my Clutch Masters

yeah it was no name, every time i drove the car i could smell it burning. ACT was the bomb thought, good for 400hp with the heavy sportscar feel

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Only out of ignorance, I lied. Isuzu says that clutch can not be adjusted.

Go here, look up your Rodeo v6, go to drive line, clutch..Text..Bookmark this site. Best I can do.....:sun:

 

[Quixfire]

You may have a problem with the Damper Cylinder if you vehicle is equipped with one.

Damper Cylinder
Some newer models equipped with V6 engines utilize a damper cylinder to prevent the shift fork from snapping back into place if the clutch pedal is released suddenly. It acts as a sort of brake fluid filled shock absorber for the clutch system.

I would get the clutch inspected again at a qualified repair facility. It sounds like the garage you had it at before didn?t know what they were doing. If this second shop can prove that the first shop didn't repair the vehicle correctly you may have legal grounds to get a refund from the first shop.

Good Luck,
Quixfire

 

[bigredguy]

So i did a quick test today to hopefully gain a little more insight into what might be wrong. It seems that i now have a lot more grab in the clutch which makes me think (with what little car intelligence i have) it's not the clutch itself but hopefully the fudged slave cylinder. Any insight you guys might have will extremely helpful. Thanks in advance.

 

[T2T III]

You paid the mechanics to fudge the job, you admitted to it. You don't really get to complain any more. To me, it sounds like the slave is hanging up, not allowing full release of the pressure plate. Get it fixed NOW before you glaze the clutch and really do need a new one

And, the mechanic who did the work has a shop that is 500 miles away.