YACT: Midas sucks, claimed both rotors needed to be replaced

Jul 12, 2001
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So I brought my car in to have them check the brakes, new car with 50k, should have had the front brakes changed already, but most of that has been cross country driving with little brake use

so anyways i have them check the front brakes and they say the front right one is fine, but the front left needs to be changed (i just went in wanting both changed)...but he said both rotors are too thin and need to be changed and the bill will be $380

I just said, uhm, yeah ok, can I have my keys back now.
 

amdhunter

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Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
So I brought my car in to have them check the brakes, new car with 50k, should have had the front brakes changed already, but most of that has been cross country driving with little brake use

so anyways i have them check the front brakes and they say the front right one is fine, but the front left needs to be changed (i just went in wanting both changed)...but he said both rotors are too thin and need to be changed and the bill will be $380

I just said, uhm, yeah ok, can I have my keys back now.

LOL, I had a local mechanic do everything for $100 and people told me I got robbed. I didn't change the rotors though, but I got them shaved and all new pads all around. Pads have lifetime warranty from autozone too, so i can trade them in anytime...
 

BigJ

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Did you even bother bringing it to another place to see if the rotors are actually in bad shape?
 
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Did you even bother bringing it to another place to see if the rotors are actually in bad shape?

i will tom, but i would be very very suprised if the rotors needed to be replaced...
 
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Originally posted by: dartworth
do it yourself...<$100... 1 hour of work

i was going to, but I live in an apartment and i could do it in the garage, but it is very poorly light and i dont have a good light source right now
 

shopbruin

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which midas?! i need brake work done and i'm hesitant to take it to the dealer cuz of the cost.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: BigJ
Did you even bother bringing it to another place to see if the rotors are actually in bad shape?

i will tom, but i would be very very suprised if the rotors needed to be replaced...

Depending on the car and how you drive it, there may be a very real possibility that the rotors need to be replaced. Especially after 50k miles.
 
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
Originally posted by: BigJ
Did you even bother bringing it to another place to see if the rotors are actually in bad shape?

i will tom, but i would be very very suprised if the rotors needed to be replaced...

Depending on the car and how you drive it, there may be a very real possibility that the rotors need to be replaced. Especially after 50k miles.

2001 nissan sentra, its been cross country 4 times which makes up most of the milage and not much hard breaking
 

JulesMaximus

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What kind of car? Have them show you what the measurement on your rotors is. It's pretty easy to tell, just measure them with a caliper gauge and then look up the manufacturers minimum thickness (assuming it isn't stamped on the rotor itself) or call the dealership and ask them what the minimum is.

If they are out of spec, they are out of spec. It's not like this can be faked. I'm always poking around when a place is looking at or servicing my car, I need proof dammit!
 

dartworth

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: dartworth
do it yourself...<$100... 1 hour of work

hahahahahhahahaha



?:confused:

You honestly think it's going to cost less than $100, and take only an hour of work to replace your brake pads and rotors?



:Q

I just replced the rotors and pads on my Jeep and my Ram...both under $100, and less than an hour.

I suppose if you have no mechanical inclination it may take longer...
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: dartworth
do it yourself...<$100... 1 hour of work

hahahahahhahahaha



?:confused:

You honestly think it's going to cost less than $100, and take only an hour of work to replace your brake pads and rotors?



:Q

I just replced the rotors and pads on my Jeep and my Ram...both under $100, and less than an hour.

I suppose if you have no mechanical inclination it may take longer...

For a 2001 Nissan Sentra (his car), he's looking at at least $100 for a set of the rotors, and around $50 for a set of brake pads. On top of that, he's going to have to spend some time researching things, and then finally attempt to change everything. I'm guessing that's going to take a bit more than "less than an hour" for him.
 

NeoPTLD

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I had the brake master cylinder replaced by Midas on my previous car. It set me back close to $500. Big mistake. I think they charged me $200+ for a non OEM master cylinder and rest is labor.

I see that NAPA Brand mstr cyl is $114 nd Safety Stop brand is $66.
 

dartworth

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: dartworth
do it yourself...<$100... 1 hour of work

hahahahahhahahaha



?:confused:

You honestly think it's going to cost less than $100, and take only an hour of work to replace your brake pads and rotors?



:Q

I just replced the rotors and pads on my Jeep and my Ram...both under $100, and less than an hour.

I suppose if you have no mechanical inclination it may take longer...

For a 2001 Nissan Sentra (his car), he's looking at at least $100 for a set of the rotors, and around $50 for a set of brake pads.



rotors @ autozone part # 31057 $32 each...
brake pads @ autozone part # MKD430 $19

throw in some brake cleaner, lube, hand cleaner, and some shop towels...you are right around $100...
 

NeoPTLD

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: dartworth
do it yourself...<$100... 1 hour of work

hahahahahhahahaha



?:confused:

You honestly think it's going to cost less than $100, and take only an hour of work to replace your brake pads and rotors?

Less if you have a lift and air impact wrench.
 

vegetation

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It probably needs to be replaced; rotors have a finite life. They can be "turned" but often the labor cost for that will exceed the cost of just getting new rotors. In fact, the major scam at brake shops is having you pay obnoxiously for the rotors to be shaved down - you end up spending more and literally get less back in return.
 

BigJ

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Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: dartworth
do it yourself...<$100... 1 hour of work

hahahahahhahahaha



?:confused:

You honestly think it's going to cost less than $100, and take only an hour of work to replace your brake pads and rotors?



:Q

I just replced the rotors and pads on my Jeep and my Ram...both under $100, and less than an hour.

I suppose if you have no mechanical inclination it may take longer...

For a 2001 Nissan Sentra (his car), he's looking at at least $100 for a set of the rotors, and around $50 for a set of brake pads.



rotors @ autozone part # 31057 $32 each...
brake pads @ autozone part # MKD430 $19

throw in some brake cleaner, lube, hand cleaner, and some shop towels...you are right around $100...

Looks like you're right. I was under the impression that they cost a bit more than this. Thanks for the info!
 

wischeez

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Being as I've worked on cars for over 30 years now, and have been playing with computers for only about 10 years now, I need to ask this question.

Why is it people will spend thousands of dollars buying computers and parts for them, or even other electronic toys, but when they need parts for a 2 ton rolling deathtrap they always buy the cheapest stuff they can find?

I pretty much know the difference in parts quality as I still work as a mechanic and wouldn't even consider putting some of them on the cars I work on.

For what it's worth,everyone pretty much knows that Midas will try to rip you a new one unless you're pretty aware of what's going on.
 

NeoPTLD

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Originally posted by: vegetation
It probably needs to be replaced; rotors have a finite life. They can be "turned" but often the labor cost for that will exceed the cost of just getting new rotors. In fact, the major scam at brake shops is having you pay obnoxiously for the rotors to be shaved down - you end up spending more and literally get less back in return.

If you're doing your own repair, you can take the rotors to a machine shop and get them turned for $8-12 each, but they're very strict about the minimum thickness. They will measure it and look it up in the spec book. If the thickness is below the minimum anywhere along the radius, they will not do it because of liability risk. Typically, you can only turn them once legally.

I'd go for new ones on $30 rotors, but turning is the cost effective way if you have $100 rotors.

I once had to replace the pads on my van. Since it always shuddered, I took them to NAPA machine shop when I went to buy pads. In my case, they were too worn to be turned legally and to buy them new, they were $70 each. I refused to spend $140 on a 12 year old van with 130,000 miles so I just lived with the shudder. If I go into Midas for a pad change, they will no doubt tell me I need new rotors and I'm sure they'll quote half the vehicle value to fix it.