YACT: I changed my rear drum brakes

djheater

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Total cost: $110.00 - New drums, new shoes, new hardware.

I priced it at a Retail service shop at over $300

I DID manage to clip off a meaningful section of skin from my thumb... it hurts when I move it.

Cheers...
 

Philippine Mango

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Question, why didn't you just change your brakes to disc? My idea is when I finally work on my toyota land cruiser that I change the front brakes to much bigger roters and put the old disc roater in the back, replacing the old drum brakes.
 

Insane3D

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Congrats...they can be a major PITA if you don't have the right tools, and are unfamliar with doing them. One thing I used to do when I was new at it was take pictures of how everything was as I took it apart, so I had something to check when putting the new stuff in.

I recently did the ones on my '92 Mustang...new shoes, adjusting hardware, brake hardware (springs, pins, and clips) and two cans of brake clean ran me about $20. :)
 

Heisenberg

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Question, why didn't you just change your brakes to disc? My idea is when I finally work on my toyota land cruiser that I change the front brakes to much bigger roters and put the old disc roater in the back, replacing the old drum brakes.
You have to replace the proportioning valve when going from drum->disc. It can be kind of a PITA.
 

Colt45

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Question, why didn't you just change your brakes to disc? My idea is when I finally work on my toyota land cruiser that I change the front brakes to much bigger roters and put the old disc roater in the back, replacing the old drum brakes.

and then your brake bias becomes horribly offset, and you rear wheels lock up before the front ones do :thumbsup:
 

Black88GTA

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Originally posted by: djheater
Total cost: $110.00 - New drums, new shoes, new hardware.

I priced it at a Retail service shop at over $300

I DID manage to clip off a meaningful section of skin from my thumb... it hurts when I move it.

Cheers...

Nice. Drums are kind of a pain in the ass.

That reminds me, I have to do front rotors, pads, and wheel bearings on my Mustang. Alas, I have no place to work on it anymore - unless I want to start rolling around under my car in 40 degree weather parked on a narrow street w/people speeding by at all hours :(. Probably have to take it in this time.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Question, why didn't you just change your brakes to disc? My idea is when I finally work on my toyota land cruiser that I change the front brakes to much bigger roters and put the old disc roater in the back, replacing the old drum brakes.

because it's an unnecessary expense?
 

Black88GTA

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Originally posted by: Insane3D
Congrats...they can be a major PITA if you don't have the right tools, and are unfamliar with doing them. One thing I used to do when I was new at it was take pictures of how everything was as I took it apart, so I had something to check when putting the new stuff in.

I recently did the ones on my '92 Mustang...new shoes, adjusting hardware, brake hardware (springs, pins, and clips) and two cans of brake clean ran me about $20. :)

Heh, mine's also a '92

:beer:
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Question, why didn't you just change your brakes to disc? My idea is when I finally work on my toyota land cruiser that I change the front brakes to much bigger roters and put the old disc roater in the back, replacing the old drum brakes.

What the hell are you talking about? Do you have any idea? There are like a bazillion things that need to be changed to swap to disks instead of drums. you can't just pull off a drum, slap on a disk and have it magicly work. You have to change all the proprotioning stuff, change brake line size (well, you should anyway) weld up a bunch of custom bracketry, and about a dozen other things.

To the OP, congrats! The only thing I don't like doing is drum brakes. They are a major PITA, and there are some springs with some serious force behind them. I had one richet off my safety glasses in highchool auto shop, and ever since, I hate working on drum brakes.
 

Insane3D

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Originally posted by: Black88GTA
Originally posted by: djheater
Total cost: $110.00 - New drums, new shoes, new hardware.

I priced it at a Retail service shop at over $300

I DID manage to clip off a meaningful section of skin from my thumb... it hurts when I move it.

Cheers...

Nice. Drums are kind of a pain in the ass.

That reminds me, I have to do front rotors, pads, and wheel bearings on my Mustang. Alas, I have no place to work on it anymore - unless I want to start rolling around under my car in 40 degree weather parked on a narrow street w/people speeding by at all hours :(. Probably have to take it in this time.

I've got to do that soon myself...

I've got a set of Timken wheel bearings and seals, a pair of EBC slotted and dimpled rotors, and a set of EBC "Green Stuff" pads ready to be put on, but the weather has been harsh around here.

I'll probably do them when I switch out my Blizzaks and stock rims for the summer rims/tires in the spring unless my pads wear out before then.


Quick tip. The fox body Mustangs all have 60mm pistons in the calipers. You can do a budget upgrade and put in Lincoln LSC calipers instead, which have 73mm pistons. They are only like $15 each for rebuilts. The Lincoln LSC's from the 90's had the same front brakes as the Mustang, just a larger caliper piston to compensate for the extra weight.

:)
 

Colt45

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Yeah, I despise drum brakes too. luckily most of my family's cars are disc, except my sisters junker.

$110 for drums/shoes/springs? seems a touch steep - what car is this?
 

Insane3D

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Originally posted by: Colt45
Yeah, I despise drum brakes too. luckily most of my family's cars are disc, except my sisters junker.

$110 for drums/shoes/springs? seems a touch steep - what car is this?

It's really not when you consider he needed drums....new ones can be fairly expensive...
 

grrl

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Good job.

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i wish i knew how to do my brakes :(

They are pretty easy. If you are fairly mechanical, you can save a lot of cash working on your car yourself. You have to invest in some tools to do it, but money is never wasted when spent on (good) tools.

 

NutBucket

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Drums are a pain. The best way to not mess up is only disassemble one side at a time. Then you can reference the other side;)
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Drums are a pain. The best way to not mess up is only disassemble one side at a time. Then you can reference the other side;)

how are you gonna do that if only one is disassembled at a time?
 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Drums are a pain. The best way to not mess up is only disassemble one side at a time. Then you can reference the other side;)

how are you gonna do that if only one is disassembled at a time?

Pull of the other drum;)
 

Baked

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Your local shop scams. Hope your DIY job doesn't cause "Aaah crap, I got no breaks."
 

Insane3D

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Drums are a pain. The best way to not mess up is only disassemble one side at a time. Then you can reference the other side;)

Originally posted by: Insane3D
One thing I used to do when I was new at it was take pictures of how everything was as I took it apart, so I had something to check when putting the new stuff in.

:p

A digital camera is perfect for such tasks....take a picture before you take things apart.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: grrl
Good job.

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i wish i knew how to do my brakes :(

They are pretty easy. If you are fairly mechanical, you can save a lot of cash working on your car yourself. You have to invest in some tools to do it, but money is never wasted when spent on (good) tools.

my father says he had the tools, i dunno if they're still around.

fscking brake place changed my brakes the other day and now they sound horrible. like they're grinding. cheap ass parts :|
 

OS

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: grrl
Good job.

Originally posted by: ElFenix
i wish i knew how to do my brakes :(

They are pretty easy. If you are fairly mechanical, you can save a lot of cash working on your car yourself. You have to invest in some tools to do it, but money is never wasted when spent on (good) tools.

my father says he had the tools, i dunno if they're still around.

fscking brake place changed my brakes the other day and now they sound horrible. like they're grinding. cheap ass parts :|

if you're talking discs, it's pretty easy, you should learn. Just get a ghetto hayes manual for $10.

Shops are ripoffs for brake jobs. When my car needed new pads, the stealership wanted f*cken $180 for pads and resurfacing the rotors. I can buy brembo blanks, hawk pads and still have money left over for that much.
 

Calin

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Originally posted by: Colt45
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Question, why didn't you just change your brakes to disc? My idea is when I finally work on my toyota land cruiser that I change the front brakes to much bigger roters and put the old disc roater in the back, replacing the old drum brakes.

and then your brake bias becomes horribly offset, and you rear wheels lock up before the front ones do :thumbsup:

If you don't have antilock brakes, then your front wheels will lock up before the rear wheels if you have a heavy load, or after them if you have no load

Calin
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Colt45
Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Question, why didn't you just change your brakes to disc? My idea is when I finally work on my toyota land cruiser that I change the front brakes to much bigger roters and put the old disc roater in the back, replacing the old drum brakes.

and then your brake bias becomes horribly offset, and you rear wheels lock up before the front ones do :thumbsup:

yup. the designers balance out the brakes for maximum stoppage without lock. its why sometimes stop distance actually increases for those ricers with giant disc brakes..locked up wheels do u no good.