YACT - Honda Civic timing belt?

[Cyberian]

What's a good price for a Honda dealer to replace the timing belt on a '97 Civic EX?
My long time trusted local guy moved to CA and I don't know any other local shops.

TIA

 

[Marshallj]

Do it yourself.

 

[amdskip]

I'd like to know too. My 96' will have 70,000 miles on it before I know it. Whens a good time to get them changed?

 

[Wduaqnug]

spent 20min or little longer depending where you are in Long Island
come to Brooklyn

mathiew auto shop on macdonald ave and ave y, timing belt will be cheaper than dealership or autozone or strauss or pep boys


across the street there is auto repair shop who have very good prices

 

[Wduaqnug]

(718) 336-6200, 325 Avenue Y, Brooklyn, NY 11223

 

[thomsbrain]

They may have changed it, but early 90's Hondas recommended the belt be changed at the 90,000 mile service. On my Accord, the timing belt is very expensive because you have to take a bunch of stuff apart to get to it. The Civic may not have that problem, though.

 

[Wduaqnug]

call the shop in advance to get price and make deposit over the phone that way if they dont have it in stock they can order before you get there. as soon you get the part go to shop across the street

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
They may have changed it, but early 90's Hondas recommended the belt be changed at the 90,000 mile service. On my Accord, the timing belt is very expensive because you have to take a bunch of stuff apart to get to it. The Civic may not have that problem, though.

For some reason I thought it was 75,000 miles. my wife has the car now, but I'll check the owner's manual later.
That would be nice if I could put it off for another year and a half.
Thanks!

 

[Wduaqnug]

Don't put it away, if you get stuck in middle of know where and towed to unknown place you will pay more than double price than now.

 

[Evadman]

Just change it now. If a timing belt goes, your engine is toast. It is not worth it IMHO.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Evadman
Just change it now. If a timing belt goes, your engine is toast. It is not worth it IMHO.

Agreed! Bent valves are not your friend.

 

[Pepsi90919]

well my mechanic had to remove some engine mounts, etc.

seems like a lengthy process.

 

[WhiteKnight77]

Originally posted by: Evadman
Just change it now. If a timing belt goes, your engine is toast. It is not worth it IMHO.

That is not always so, Hondas, Nissan, Hyundais are all know for bending a couple of valves (more if a V6,) but that does not mean that the engine is history. The valves can be replaced or a completely reworked head can be installed. Toyotas don't have an interference motor like the previously mentioned vehicles do.

IIRC the Hondas have a water pump that is timing belt driven and should be replaced when the timing belt is replaced (keeps ya from having to pay all that labor again should the pump go out sooner rather than later and conversely, if ya have a water pump go out, you should have the timing belt replaced at the same time fo rthe very same reason.) The total should be around $400 give or take $50 and thats parts and labor (this is a guestimate and not an actual quote from any shop I have worked in, this is just off the top of my head at a labor rate of $50/hr at a guess of 2.5 hours of labor and parts plus mark up) and Hondas don't leave much room to get to the belt.

 

[toph99]

oh how i love my timing chain

 

[Pepsi90919]

That is not always so, Hondas, Nissan, Hyundais are all know for bending a couple of valves (more if a V6,) but that does not mean that the engine is history. The valves can be replaced or a completely reworked head can be installed. Toyotas don't have an interference motor like the previously mentioned vehicles do.

um, since when was new valves and new belt cheaper than just the belt?

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: Evadman
Just change it now. If a timing belt goes, your engine is toast. It is not worth it IMHO.

OK, so the Honda is an "interference" engine?
I wasn't sure.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: Evadman
Just change it now. If a timing belt goes, your engine is toast. It is not worth it IMHO.

OK, so the Honda is an "interference" engine?
I wasn't sure.

yepperz.

 

[KingNothing]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: Evadman
Just change it now. If a timing belt goes, your engine is toast. It is not worth it IMHO.

OK, so the Honda is an "interference" engine?
I wasn't sure.

yepperz.

Has Honda changed its design? My friend's 89 Honda Accord does *not* use an interference design. I know this because his timing belt broke and his engine simply stopped, nothing worse than that.

My 1995 Geo Prizm (Toyota Corolla) on the other hand, *does* use an interference design.

 

[WhiteKnight77]

Nowhere did I say that replacing valves were cheaper than a belt. I just said that the whole motor wasn't toast. To clairfy. Most Hondas have an interference motor while most Toyotas don't. Same with Chrylser, those with the Mitubishi 3.0 are most likely to bend a few valves, but not ones with 2.2/2.5 engines.

BTW, timing chains stretch and/or the nylon teeth break off after years of use and heat cycles (and drop into the oil pan) and can cause misfires or no start conditions (depending on what kind of engine) tho usually do give some warning.

 

[kag]

Kill me for this, but I haven't been active for quite a long time now... what the f_ck does YACT mean?

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: KingNothing

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: Cyberian

Originally posted by: Evadman
Just change it now. If a timing belt goes, your engine is toast. It is not worth it IMHO.

OK, so the Honda is an "interference" engine?
I wasn't sure.

yepperz.

Has Honda changed its design? My friend's 89 Honda Accord does *not* use an interference design. I know this because his timing belt broke and his engine simply stopped, nothing worse than that.

My 1995 Geo Prizm (Toyota Corolla) on the other hand, *does* use an interference design.

AFAIK all Honda Motors in the last 14 years or so are intereference designs.

 

[Aquaman]

My 90' Civic si says that the timing belt should be changed every 90000 miles.

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: Aquaman
My 90' Civic si says that the timing belt should be changed every 90000 miles.

Cheers,
Aquaman

Nice set of wheels there Aquaman

 

[amdskip]

YACT=Yet another car thread

 

[Aquaman]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: Aquaman
My 90' Civic si says that the timing belt should be changed every 90000 miles.

Cheers,
Aquaman

Nice set of wheels there Aquaman

I have an oil leak prolem I have to take care of though

I may have to just replacec the engine if it's the head gasket

Lucky there are tons of Civic engines so it will be relatively cheap

Cheers,
Aquaman