YACT: difference between the Pontiac Firebird, Firebird Formula, Firebird Trans Am

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MikeMike

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What is the difference in these vehicles?

i see that just a plain Firebird seems to have just the v6.
Formula seems to have the V8 and a few options
Trans Am seems to have the V8, and different hood, and maybe inside differences?

can anyone tell me?

of course the WS6 package is just like the SS on the camaro, but yea.

you GM flamers stay out too, i just want actual answers.

MIKE
 
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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
What is the difference in these vehicles?

i see that just a plain Firebird seems to have just the v6.
Formula seems to have the V8 and a few options
Trans Am seems to have the V8, and different hood, and maybe inside differences?

can anyone tell me?

of course the WS6 package is just like the SS on the camaro, but yea.

MIKE
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the plastic interiors.



oh.. wait...



EDIT:

although I like the look of the outside... and you know I'm just playing with ya.... :p
 
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Sex Smurf

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KITT was a Firebird (I had the same car in HS) :thumbsup:

My apologies for not answering your question.
 
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se7en

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firebird = v6 205 horsies maybe
formula = v8 285 horsies i think
trans am = corvette speed 330 horsies @ the rear wheels + hood and some minor upgrades

 
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MikeMike

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Originally posted by: se7en
firebird = v6 205 horsies maybe
formula = v8 285 horsies i think
trans am = corvette speed 330 horsies @ the rear wheels + hood and some minor upgrades
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i think thats LT1's, LS1's are 305/335 for the formula, that i kow.

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Originally posted by: se7en
firebird = v6 205 horsies maybe
formula = v8 285 horsies i think
trans am = corvette speed 330 horsies @ the rear wheels + hood and some minor upgrades
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That's pretty close. My 1998 Firebird had a V-6 which gave me 200 HP.

Actually I loved that car, it kept breaking down all the fvcking time though. I finally got sick of shelling out $600/month just to maintain it and traded it in on a 2003 Toyota 4Runner.
 
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Firebird is the base model. Formulas are the exact same car as the Trans Am. The only difference being that the Trans Am has the raised wing on the hatch, ground effects, and the front end clip. Leather also comes standard in the Trans Am. Engine/power/mechanical wise the Formula is the same as Trans Am. (I heard slightly faster becaues of the reduced weight of not having the extra weight of the appearance package) The hood you see on the Trans Am's is the WS6 package which includes the ram air option, stiffer suspension, and a less restrictive exhaust setup.
 
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MikeMike

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thats what ive started to see, although i do like the ram air hood, i cant seem to find ANY formula's in my area on autotrader, although carsoup has one, but its an auto.

MIKE
 
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The Trans Am is an appearance package only. You could get all the same powertrain/suspension options in the Formula you could in the TA. The WS6 package was originally a performance handling package that then included ram air and other upgrades for horsepower in the 4th gen cars.
 
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MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
The Trans Am is an appearance package only. You could get all the same powertrain/suspension options in the Formula you could in the TA. The WS6 package was orignally a performance handling package that then included ram air and other upgrades for horsepower in the 4th gen cars.
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so basically it is similar to the Camaro as in...

Camaro = Firebird
Camaro Z28 = Firebird Formula
Camaro SS = Firebird Trans Am WS6

right?

MIKE
 
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SnipeMasterJ13

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With a car with that much power I would definately wait it out for a manual. Also with with the WS6 option you get 320 HP instead of the 305 w/o it.
 
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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: se7en
firebird = v6 205 horsies maybe
formula = v8 285 horsies i think
trans am = corvette speed 330 horsies @ the rear wheels + hood and some minor upgrades
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i think thats LT1's, LS1's are 305/335 for the formula, that i kow.

MIKE
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yeah depends on the year the LT1's were rated HP from the flywheel where as the newer LS1's rate it from the rear wheel. But the numbers are very close and what you said may be right on the money. Hey Im a ford guy so I only know a pontiac when I see them in my rear view falling behind :beer:

 
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Heisenberg

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
The Trans Am is an appearance package only. You could get all the same powertrain/suspension options in the Formula you could in the TA. The WS6 package was orignally a performance handling package that then included ram air and other upgrades for horsepower in the 4th gen cars.
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so basically it is similar to the Camaro as in...

Camaro = Firebird
Camaro Z28 = Firebird Formula
Camaro SS = Firebird Trans Am WS6

right?

MIKE
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Sort of, although I believe you could get the WS6 package on the Formula in 4th gen cars too (I assume you're talking about 4th gen). But again, the TA is an appearance package, so either the Formula or TA is equal to a Z28.
 
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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
The Trans Am is an appearance package only. You could get all the same powertrain/suspension options in the Formula you could in the TA. The WS6 package was orignally a performance handling package that then included ram air and other upgrades for horsepower in the 4th gen cars.
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so basically it is similar to the Camaro as in...

Camaro = Firebird
Camaro Z28 = Firebird Formula
Camaro SS = Firebird Trans Am WS6

right?

MIKE
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For the most part. There are however Firebird Formula WS6s. Those are pretty rare though and you would pay the price for having one. And if I remember correctly SLP doesn't do the WS6. SLP does the Firehawk.

Edit: Too quick for me Heisenberg. :cool:
 
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MikeMike

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Originally posted by: SnipeMasterJ13
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
The Trans Am is an appearance package only. You could get all the same powertrain/suspension options in the Formula you could in the TA. The WS6 package was orignally a performance handling package that then included ram air and other upgrades for horsepower in the 4th gen cars.
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so basically it is similar to the Camaro as in...

Camaro = Firebird
Camaro Z28 = Firebird Formula
Camaro SS = Firebird Trans Am WS6

right?

MIKE
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For the most part. There are however Firebird Formula WS6s. Those are pretty rare though and you would pay the price for having one. And if I remember correctly SLP doesn't do the WS6. SLP does the Firehawk.
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SLP does the WS6 from everything ive read.

MIKE
 
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MikeMike

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
SLP does the WS6 from everything ive read.

MIKE
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SLP may have done it in the 4th gens. but it was still a factory option IIRC.
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yes, it was a factory option, but SLP applied it on the 4th gens.

MIKE
 
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Actaeon

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All of these cars were based on the same body, and I'm basing this from the 93-02 F-Bodies.

93-97 Trans Am/Formula had the LT1.
98-02 Trans Am/Formula had LS1.
WS6 became an option in 1996 for the T/A/Formula

93-95 V6 had 3.4L V6 making 160hp
96-02 V6 had 3.8L V6 making 200hp

Comparison between the 93-97 T/As and the 98-02s

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There were some more slight differences throughout the years, a slight HP bump in 2000, wheels changed to a differen style, but overall but nothing really significant.

Firebird = V6, RWD, 5 speed
Trans Am = V8, RWD, 6 Speed, some cosmetic differences, larger spoiler, ground effects, dual exhaust, revised front end
Formula = V8 RWD, 6 Speed, same performance to the T/A, but looks like the Firebird aside from the Dual Exhaust.
WS6 = V8, RWD, 6 Speed, Upgraded Wheels and Ram Air hood, only slightly more power (not much at all really) only available on the Formula and Trans Am. Package option

All of the Firebirds had a option for the Automatic as a transmission. Unfortunately, most are.
 
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SnipeMasterJ13

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"SLP does the Firehawk and some company by ASC or ACS does the WS6." That is what I'm told at LS1tech.com. It is a good site, those guys know basically everything you want to know about these cars.
 
Gillbot

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Originally posted by: se7en
firebird = v6 205 horsies maybe
formula = v8 285 horsies i think
trans am = corvette speed 330 horsies @ the rear wheels + hood and some minor upgrades
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The Firebird is a V6, the Formula is the same as the V6 but with the V8 engine. The Trans am is the "loaded" car with all the options and a different nose. The WS6 option adds the new "ram air" hood and some other small items. You can get the WS6 package with "ram air" on the Formula or the Trans Am.

The WS6 conversions are made by ASC. http://www.ascglobal.com/
 
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