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YACT: Diesel Powered Japanese Cars

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Quixfire

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Given the increase cost of gasoline and consumers driving their cars longer a diesel powered mid-size car just might do well in the states. Using electronic direct injection the noise level would be minimal and fuel savings could possibly sway more than a few buyers.

Do you think Honda, Toyota, Mazda, or any other Japanese car companies will ever put a Diesel engine in their American models?
 
They used to in the 80's some were pretty decent.

I've seen some diesel Nissan's that were well done, Isusu made some neat pickups, Mazda had a neat 4 cylinder for their trucks, Toyota had a 4 cylinder in their small trucks that would not die...

I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

Used Japanese diesels

I'm pretty sure Honda is the only manufacturer that doesn't source their own diesel engines, they sell well in their home market & developing countries.
 
The American market is performance obsessed. I doubt that they will try again in

the near future. A friend of mine has a Toyota dsl sedan rt hand drive in New Zealand.

He has a second home there. He loves the car. In typical diesel fashion, it performs

near the same empty or filled with passengers.

:sun:
 
Why is it typical for a Diesel to perform equal with a full car or not?

Diesel does not just = Torque by default.

Many N/A diesel engines suck actually. Once they get forced induction they do great, but then again my 5.3 pumps out as much torque as the new 6.0 Powerstroke.

The benefits of diesel are not the power, but the longevity and the efficiancy of milage. You put a Whipple on the GM 8.1 and you get 680lbs of torque with only 7lbs of boost, the Duramax from GM is 14lbs of boost and has 520lbs of torque.. the Dmax gets 19mpg though and will prolly run 300K miles no problem, the 8.1 gets 8mpg and will need a rebuild at 150K or so.
 
I think it was BMW that made a relatively high revving diesel engine (prototype of course) that made very nice power and got great mileage... I think it's redline was about 5000 RPM.
 
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Honda gets there truck Diesel motors from GM, so I doubt it
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Ironically enough, the fantastic GM Duramax is almost completely an Isuzu engine.

 
Diesels are coming back to the US - expect them in 06/07. Our fuel is a big part of the problem - I believe 2006 will mandate more refined diesel available, so the cars will follow.
 
Very true. Jeep will be offering a Benz V6 diesel in the Liberty this year. There are rumours of a Caravan diesel being sold in North America as well (already offered in Europe).

Diesels will be more and more common without a doubt. The fuel costs far less (with a few exceptions) and get better milage than their gasoline counterparts. Engines usually last much longer as well. Diesels now are a far cry from the Diesels we were used to in the 80s and earlier.
 
Also rumoured is a PT Cruiser diesel... also supposedly available in Europe right now (poor Europeans... get stuck with the PT Cruiser as well).

That Benz Diesel in the Liberty is supposed to be a great powerhouse and massaged for even more power and sound reduction when it comes to this side of the pond.
 
all this talk of Chrysler putting a diesel in their vehicles....why don't they spend a little more on transmission development and manufacturing
 
uhh...why diesel though if Gas-Electric is coming...
Electric motors=gobs of torque
Gas=what people are used to

Of course, what's to stop us from using Diesel-Electric hybrid tech?

At any rate you have to make diesels more refined before they're good for mass use...because right now they dump a really large amount of crap into the air and aren't really well suited for having all our cars go diesel.

But a clean diesel-electric hybrid isn't that bad of an idea, and heck, we could probably see 80MPG with that =p
 
Now there is a thought.


I wouldn't doubt that it happens. There would need to be some fundamental shift away from gasoline though.....

The Japanese are very good at building extremely efficient gasoline engines. Along with efficiency comes reliability and power, from a small package. They don't really have any reason to move to a totally new type of powerplant.

But I am sure they would embrace it, and embrace it very well if there were a demand.
 
Originally posted by: redly1
all this talk of Chrysler putting a diesel in their vehicles....why don't they spend a little more on transmission development and manufacturing
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hahahahahahahah how true...how true... =p

hahahahahahahahahahhaahha

Man, and you know something funny, someone who owns a Dodge Stratus heard me talking about how it took me 20 minutes to get my car going in the winter, and asked me if it was an import or not...then insinuated that imports were less reliable. Uhh yeah. What I was really saying though was that in the wintertime in Rochester, NY, it takes 20 minutes to scrape all the freakin' ice off of the windshield. My car, which was a UK built Honda at the time, never, EVER, hiccuped because of the weather =)

Man...that was funny. A Dodge Stratus owner insinuating that other cars are unreliable. Tehehe
 
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