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YACT: Car is in for service...

Gamingphreek

Gamingphreek

Lifer
So there was a recall on my truck; the steering relay rod could crack, and sometimes break.

I brought it in and was supposed to pick it up after school today (friend would drop me there). But my dad called and said they need it another day because apparently my tie-rods are frozen.

Can someone explain to me what a tie rod is and what is going on here. Also will i notice a difference in any way shape or form?

As for the relay rod, my friend said that i wont notice a difference other than it is safer because it is just a rod that connects the steering column to something else i cant remember.

Thanks,
-Kevin
 
Tie rods connect the tire to the steering rack.

They are what translates your steering input from the rack to the wheel. There is also where you adjust for proper toe.
 
Ok, i know just enough to talk some rudimentary car talk.

Will i notice a difference at all? Also can you put it in somewhat simpler, if not crude, terms.

-Kevin
 
Tie rods are what make the wheels move when you steer. If they're frozen, you will have a much more difficult time turning the wheel.

The relay rod connects the steering wheel to the tie rods, if it breaks, you have no steering.

*The above is vastly over-simplified, real car guys don't worry, I really do understand how it actually works.

ZV
 
NOw that is good. Ill read up on the rest.

So should i notice any difference at all?

Also, perhaps you can help tell me if this problem is related.

When i would turn the wheel all the way, or most of the way, i would get loud popping noises. When i was getting new tires put on they mechanic said that it was something with japanese cars. They have some sort of seal over a gasket which limits this noise, but over time it wears off. He said you cannot get a replacement anymore, but as a temporary replacement he put something over it to muffle it a little.

Now these tire people were the people who did something like this. Since you are car guys ill just say it. How does a tire balance of 4.5 on one side and 9.0 on the other sound. Half the tire on each side was filled with weights (until i noticed, and noticed the bumpy ride and took it back). Could they be wrong, and could this be the relay rod or something cracking?

-Kevin

Edit: Thanks for helping me understand this. Im really interested in cars (as any man is) and like to learn about them.
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Ok, i know just enough to talk some rudimentary car talk.

Will i notice a difference at all? Also can you put it in somewhat simpler, if not crude, terms.

-Kevin
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All the Oompa Loompas that work tirelessly to translate your steering input to the front wheels have sprained wrists.
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
NOw that is good. Ill read up on the rest.

So should i notice any difference at all?

Also, perhaps you can help tell me if this problem is related.

When i would turn the wheel all the way, or most of the way, i would get loud popping noises. When i was getting new tires put on they mechanic said that it was something with japanese cars. They have some sort of seal over a gasket which limits this noise, but over time it wears off. He said you cannot get a replacement anymore, but as a temporary replacement he put something over it to muffle it a little.

Now these tire people were the people who did something like this. Since you are car guys ill just say it. How does a tire balance of 4.5 on one side and 9.0 on the other sound. Half the tire on each side was filled with weights (until i noticed, and noticed the bumpy ride and took it back). Could they be wrong, and could this be the relay rod or something cracking?

-Kevin

Edit: Thanks for helping me understand this. Im really interested in cars (as any man is) and like to learn about them.
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No car made anywhere should make "loud popping noises" from the steering system under any circumstances. You should NEVER go back to that mechanic, he has ABSOLUTELY ZERO business working on a car.

The popping noises were probably the joints on the tie rods binding, which is an early sign that they could freeze later and need to be fixed.

ZV
 
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
When i would turn the wheel all the way, or most of the way, i would get loud popping noises. When i was getting new tires put on they mechanic said that it was something with japanese cars. They have some sort of seal over a gasket which limits this noise, but over time it wears off. He said you cannot get a replacement anymore, but as a temporary replacement he put something over it to muffle it a little.

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No car made anywhere should make "loud popping noises" from the steering system under any circumstances. You should NEVER go back to that mechanic, he has ABSOLUTELY ZERO business working on a car.

The popping noises were probably the joints on the tie rods binding, which is an early sign that they could freeze later and need to be fixed.

ZV
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Gotta aree with Z on this one. Steering and brakes are 2 main things you don't mess around with.

To your original question, no, you should not notice a difference unless somethign was messed up pretty bad. If something was broken or worn, you could notice an increase in gas millege and/or a 'firmer' wheel.
 
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Tie rods are what make the wheels move when you steer. If they're frozen, you will have a much more difficult time turning the wheel.

The relay rod connects the steering wheel to the tie rods, if it breaks, you have no steering.

*The above is vastly over-simplified, real car guys don't worry, I really do understand how it actually works.

ZV
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When the shop says that the "tie-rods are frozen", that makes me think that it's the threads (where the rod goes into the rack) is frozen, and they can't unscrew them.

You might be right that it's the end joints they are talking about, but I think it's the inner tie rods.

 
You really won't notice any "difference". They will work the way they are intended when done. The steering may be a bit tighter and the alignment should be done so the car should drive like it was "new".
 
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
NOw that is good. Ill read up on the rest.

So should i notice any difference at all?

Also, perhaps you can help tell me if this problem is related.

When i would turn the wheel all the way, or most of the way, i would get loud popping noises. When i was getting new tires put on they mechanic said that it was something with japanese cars. They have some sort of seal over a gasket which limits this noise, but over time it wears off. He said you cannot get a replacement anymore, but as a temporary replacement he put something over it to muffle it a little.

Now these tire people were the people who did something like this. Since you are car guys ill just say it. How does a tire balance of 4.5 on one side and 9.0 on the other sound. Half the tire on each side was filled with weights (until i noticed, and noticed the bumpy ride and took it back). Could they be wrong, and could this be the relay rod or something cracking?

-Kevin

Edit: Thanks for helping me understand this. Im really interested in cars (as any man is) and like to learn about them.
Click to expand...
No car made anywhere should make "loud popping noises" from the steering system under any circumstances. You should NEVER go back to that mechanic, he has ABSOLUTELY ZERO business working on a car.

The popping noises were probably the joints on the tie rods binding, which is an early sign that they could freeze later and need to be fixed.

ZV
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OH
DEAR
GOD!

Well, what did opening did he cover with grease!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
NOw that is good. Ill read up on the rest.

So should i notice any difference at all?

Also, perhaps you can help tell me if this problem is related.

When i would turn the wheel all the way, or most of the way, i would get loud popping noises. When i was getting new tires put on they mechanic said that it was something with japanese cars. They have some sort of seal over a gasket which limits this noise, but over time it wears off. He said you cannot get a replacement anymore, but as a temporary replacement he put something over it to muffle it a little.

Now these tire people were the people who did something like this. Since you are car guys ill just say it. How does a tire balance of 4.5 on one side and 9.0 on the other sound. Half the tire on each side was filled with weights (until i noticed, and noticed the bumpy ride and took it back). Could they be wrong, and could this be the relay rod or something cracking?

-Kevin

Edit: Thanks for helping me understand this. Im really interested in cars (as any man is) and like to learn about them.
Click to expand...
No car made anywhere should make "loud popping noises" from the steering system under any circumstances. You should NEVER go back to that mechanic, he has ABSOLUTELY ZERO business working on a car.

The popping noises were probably the joints on the tie rods binding, which is an early sign that they could freeze later and need to be fixed.

ZV
Click to expand...

OH
DEAR
GOD!

Well, what did opening did he cover with grease!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

-Kevin
Click to expand...

Can someone tell me what i should do here? What holes/pipes, could he have effectively clogged up?

-Kevin
 
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Tie rods are what make the wheels move when you steer. If they're frozen, you will have a much more difficult time turning the wheel.

The relay rod connects the steering wheel to the tie rods, if it breaks, you have no steering.

*The above is vastly over-simplified, real car guys don't worry, I really do understand how it actually works.

ZV
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When the shop says that the "tie-rods are frozen", that makes me think that it's the threads (where the rod goes into the rack) is frozen, and they can't unscrew them.
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This is how I took it, as well.
 
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