Originally posted by: KnightBreed
"In what regard? The S-type is the only Jag that is currently based off an American platform (Ford's DEW platform that's also being used in the Lincoln LS, Ford Thunderbird and new Mustang). The X-type is based off the European Mondeo chassis with domestic engines. The XK and XJ share their platforms with no other vehicles, as far as I know. The aluminum chassis for the XJ is state of the art."
I think the poster meant that Jag is no longer "Jaguar" from Britian but instead Jag is now just another piece of the Ford MoCo. Pie thus their ownership by a "Dmoestic" conglomerate has negated their "import" status, something which I would agree with seeing as many of their high volume selling componenets are shared with their lower end brands and assembled in domestic plants...
"No, only the S-type is based off the Lincoln LS, not the X-type. The X-type has had plenty of quality control issues from what I understand, but I'm curious where you got the information about the poor transmissions. Is it anecdotal evidence or from actual research?"
Correct, the S-Type uses a LS chassis and the X is based of a Mondeo ver2 chassis, with re. the transmissions I personally have read more than a few complaints with re. X type transmissions but never bothered looking into them, I just figured they were using the same ATX as the Mondeo/Contour and those have had more than a few reported problems, also I personally think it is a shame they didn't go with their 2.4 mazda engine for the X type as IMHO it is much nicer than the current 2.5 or 3 litre options at only a slight loss in HP over the 3 (if they can pull 200hp from it as in my SVT then they should be able to do the same for the Jag)
"There are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike the X-type - hell, I wouldn't buy one - but unlike some of the dumbasses in this thread, we don't pull opinions from our ass."
I also would go as far as saying there are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike all of Jag's output simply for the fact that it is nothing more than a lower end brand (Ford) trying to cash in on an upscale market by stealing someone else's history, sure their upper eschelon of products are nice, but for that money they should be...what I find interesting is now we are seeing Ford components being used in lower end Jags, and Jag components being shared with elite brands such as Aston Marten....gotta love consolidation.l
In response to the initial poster, if you are doing this and don't plan on disclosing the info to a potential buyer then that IMHO is wrong, sorry I call it like I see it.
Edit:
Yup, just as I thought, the X-type share the same tranny as the Mondeo/Contour...
Here is a quote:
X-Type's parts come from the Mondeo. Apart from the platform, some suspension bits, the engine block and the gearbox, the X-Type's engineering is pure Jaguar.
Also, I love the way they put that...so basically the body kit and the interior are all Jag wheras everything else isn't
Here is a link to a 2002 review:
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadtests/firstdrive/46031/article.html
Also this is pretty funny....
For instance, while the engine block is derived from the same Duratec V6 engine that powers Ford's Taurus, the power-producing bits ? cylinder head, intake and exhaust systems ? are all of British origin. The result is that the X-Type's top-of-the-line 3.0-liter V6 pumps out a stellar 231 horsepower, compared with the 200 that Ford squeezes from the same displacement. Even the smaller 2.5-liter version boasts 194 hp, just a sneeze short of the larger-displacement Taurus.
What I really find interesting is the last line, that their 2.5 L is only pushing out 194 HP whereas one could have purchased a Contour SVT for about $11-12 less, have the same platform, better suspension, fully loaded and a better engine putting out 200HP...so why buy the X type when you get a *better* car for much less if not for branding....also interesting to note that since the X-type uses the same motor as a Taurus some might argue the two cars are distantly related....
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