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YACT: Argghh, damn Olds...

OREOSpeedwagon

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Was driving home after school today and noticed the "Charge" light was on, I didn't really think much about it because I had to be at work in 10 mins so I made it to work and everything alright, but on the way home the radio started clicking and my lights started dimming. When I stopped at the stop sign about a block from my house when I hit the gas the engine just revved and it kind of jerked when it took off. I'm hoping its not the alternator, I don't get paid until Saturday =/ Anyone have any idea from this if it would just be a bad battery? My dad said one time he had to replace some kind of belt one time when the charge light came on but it didn't do any of this... Maybe I just drove it around too long =/
 
I looked under the hood but didn't see any broken belts, I really didn't look that close though and it was starting to get dark. Had to replace the battery around 4 years ago I think.
 
Its the alt, alt belt, or something in the charging curcuit. That battery doesn't do much if anything while the car is running.
 
take your alternator to a auto part store they can test it for you to see if its good or bad. If you have a multi meter you can test the voltage while the car is running and see if its getting the proper charger (High 13s - Low 14s)
 
While the car is running remove the positive cable,if it still runs the alt is fine

DO NOT DO THIS, you will not only destroy the alternator, you will also fry the ECM, to test the alternator, start the vehicle and attach a volt/ohm meter to the battery terminals, if the alternator is charging you will see a voltage between 13.4 and 14.8.

Make sure that all the connections at the battery and alternator are clean and free of corrosion.

Your alternator is a "CS Version" which tend to fail from overheating, the aftermarket has a "ice berg" cooling conversion for it which will allow it to live a much longer life.

Iceberg cooling kit

Low amp iceberg alternator

These can be found at many local auto part storfes throughout the country.
 
it could be just the battery, but rather than replace the battery and had it ruined in a few days because of bad alternator, you'd better check the alternator first.
 
Originally posted by: SubZero
While the car is running remove the positive cable,if it still runs the alt is fine ..

The alternator without a big consumer (like the battery) can reach several hundred volts. You will fry mostly everything electric in your car
By the way, the car batteries suffer mostly from complete (or near complete) charge/discharge cycles. The life of a car battery that is not overcharged/drained can reach some 10 years.

Calin
 
The alternator without a big consumer (like the battery) can reach several hundred volts. You will fry mostly everything electric in your car

Where the hell do you guys come up with this crap, do you just make this stuff up ?

There is no way in hell that an alternator can make several hundred volts, the voltage produced by an alternator depends on several factors ;

The number of windings in the field coil <------ the main factor

The voltage applied the the rotor

The voltage regulator

The number of windings in the rotor
 
Originally posted by: saxguy
it could be just the battery, but rather than replace the battery and had it ruined in a few days because of bad alternator, you'd better check the alternator first.
For all practical purposes, no, it could not just be the battery. There are precisely zero symptoms that indicate a bad battery here. Even if the battery were completely drained, once the engine has started, it will run perfectly and the alternator will charge the battery (albeit slowly).

What happened here is that the alternator died and because he continued to drive the car in that state (running everything off of the battery) he has drained the battery to a very low level, which is why he was experiencing electrical problems. I will be very surprised if the car starts after this. There are two practical possibilities. Either the alternator belt snapped (if the car even has an alternator belt, if his car uses a serpentine belt, we can rule out the alternator belt snapping because serpentine belts also run the water pump and PS pump so he would have noticed other malfunctions if the serpentine belt snapped) or, as is more likely, the alternator has failed. His battery probably is dead by now though since he's drianed it severely and lead-acid automotive batteries tend to self-destruct if fully discharged, but that's not the cause of the problem, its just another symptom of it.

To the OP: What the heck were you thinking that you kept the radio on when the "charge" light came on? The first thing that should be done in that situation is that you turn off every un-necessary electrical accessory. Turn off the radio, turn off the heat or A/C, dim the interior lights if the headlights need to be on. What on earth do they teach people in driver's ed anymore?

ZV
 
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