YACT: anyone here with remote start on a 5-speed?

[spanky]

just wondering... i was looking at some remote start kits and some of them say that it's "dangerous" to be used with manual transmission cars... and others don't mention anything. for those kits that do not mention anything... would it be safe to assume that it will work with manual transmissions?

 

[Viper GTS]

Many/most cars won't turn on unless the clutch is fully disengaged (ie your foot is on it).

Viper GTS

 

Most newer cars won't start without the clutch depressed. It'd be pretty hard to rig up a remote start system with that requirement.

 

[blackdogdeek]

Originally posted by: jumpr
Most newer cars won't start without the clutch depressed. It'd be pretty hard to rig up a remote start system with that requirement.

unless you're married j/k i couldn't resist.

 

[Miramonti]

even if you didn't have a newer car that would be real stupid imo unless you had some kind of override for when it was parked in gear.

 

[Viper GTS]

Assuming you didn't have a vehicle that required clutch dis-engagement, using such a device would require that you leave your vehicle out of gear when you park it - Not advisable.

It's a bad idea all around.

Viper GTS

 

[Confused]

I never put my car in gear when I park it....

Unless i'm on a REAL steep (I mean like this steep \ ) hill


That's what a handbrake is for.


Confused

 

[Monel Funkawitz]

I had one on my Cavalier.

Bad idea? Yup. Try chasing your car in first. Remote starts don't have remote kill. You'd be supprised how fast it goes in first.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Monel Funkawitz
I had one on my Cavalier. Bad idea? Yup. Try chasing your car in first. Remote starts don't have remote kill. You'd be supprised how fast it goes in first.

visualization = hilarious

 

[Mrfrog840]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: Monel Funkawitz
I had one on my Cavalier. Bad idea? Yup. Try chasing your car in first. Remote starts don't have remote kill. You'd be supprised how fast it goes in first.

visualization = hilarious

 

[TheCorm]

Originally posted by: jumpr
Most newer cars won't start without the clutch depressed. It'd be pretty hard to rig up a remote start system with that requirement.

Weird...we don't have that here in the UK....thankfully....but then we have a higher % of manual cards compared to automatic than you guys.

I have seen those remote starters....with a manual in gear....the car stalls.....with an automatic in gear...it can be much worse....I witnessed it.

The guy accidentally set it off and his 4x4 proceeded to drive off down the road, overpowering the handbrake....it got a bit faster as it went before parking itself in a hedge.

So which is more dangerous again?

 

[IamElectro]

Originally posted by: jumpr
Most newer cars won't start without the clutch depressed. It'd be pretty hard to rig up a remote start system with that requirement.

This can be fixed easily with a $5 relay, but I wouldn't trust only my emergency brake to hold the weight of the vehicle.

 

[DrPizza]

It'd be pretty easy to electrically bypass the requirement that the clutch be pushed in for the car to start... but then, the car would need to be parked in neutral (out of gear): definitely not a smart thing to do unless it's on a very level surface. There would be too much product liability, as someone would eventually get injured (and it wouldn't take long), when some moron remote starts the car while it's in gear. Anyone with half a brain could adapt a remote starter to a standard.... however, anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that it would be stupid to do so.

The best situation for a standard would be to have a remote that would recognize when the car is in gear and not start it in that situation...

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Assuming you didn't have a vehicle that required clutch dis-engagement, using such a device would require that you leave your vehicle out of gear when you park it - Not advisable.

It's a bad idea all around.

Viper GTS

My sentiments exactly.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Confused
I never put my car in gear when I park it....

Unless i'm on a REAL steep (I mean like this steep \ ) hill


That's what a handbrake is for.


Confused

Someday that will catch up with you, that's not what handbrakes are for.

Viper GTS

 

[Ns1]

it's just a sensor to make sure that the clutch is depressed, if the remote start can be done for the 5spd it's not that hard to override it or watever

BUT, most places won't install it for you anyway because of liability reasons (you parking the car in 1st gear for example)

supposedly Clifford's remote start has a safety feature, but the shop I get my stuff done at wouldn't install it for me anyway

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Confused
I never put my car in gear when I park it....

Unless i'm on a REAL steep (I mean like this steep \ ) hill


That's what a handbrake is for.


Confused

Someday that will catch up with you, that's not what handbrakes are for.

Viper GTS

No, that is exactly what the handbrake if for - emergency situations and parking. Either put the weight of the vehicle on the drivetrain or the brakes. Doesn't sound like a difficult decision to me.

Although, the ideal situation would be put the car in gear and pull the handbrake.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
It'd be pretty easy to electrically bypass the requirement that the clutch be pushed in for the car to start... but then, the car would need to be parked in neutral (out of gear): definitely not a smart thing to do unless it's on a very level surface. There would be too much product liability, as someone would eventually get injured (and it wouldn't take long), when some moron remote starts the car while it's in gear. Anyone with half a brain could adapt a remote starter to a standard.... however, anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that it would be stupid to do so.

The best situation for a standard would be to have a remote that would recognize when the car is in gear and not start it in that situation...

Umm... How do you start a car that is in gear? Do you guys have some uberpowerful starter motors that will power the car as well as the engine?

Edit: I guess the car would roll if you have it parked on a hill.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: DrPizza
It'd be pretty easy to electrically bypass the requirement that the clutch be pushed in for the car to start... but then, the car would need to be parked in neutral (out of gear): definitely not a smart thing to do unless it's on a very level surface. There would be too much product liability, as someone would eventually get injured (and it wouldn't take long), when some moron remote starts the car while it's in gear. Anyone with half a brain could adapt a remote starter to a standard.... however, anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that it would be stupid to do so.

The best situation for a standard would be to have a remote that would recognize when the car is in gear and not start it in that situation...

Umm... How do you start a car that is in gear? Do you guys have some uberpowerful starter motors that will power the car as well as the engine?

Edit: I guess the car would roll if you have it parked on a hill.

how do you start a car that's in gear? put your foot down on the clutch poot your foot down on the brake and start it =P

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: DrPizza
It'd be pretty easy to electrically bypass the requirement that the clutch be pushed in for the car to start... but then, the car would need to be parked in neutral (out of gear): definitely not a smart thing to do unless it's on a very level surface. There would be too much product liability, as someone would eventually get injured (and it wouldn't take long), when some moron remote starts the car while it's in gear. Anyone with half a brain could adapt a remote starter to a standard.... however, anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that it would be stupid to do so.

The best situation for a standard would be to have a remote that would recognize when the car is in gear and not start it in that situation...

Umm... How do you start a car that is in gear? Do you guys have some uberpowerful starter motors that will power the car as well as the engine?

Edit: I guess the car would roll if you have it parked on a hill.

how do you start a car that's in gear? put your foot down on the clutch poot your foot down on the brake and start it =P

Does the remote starter depress the clutch pedal?

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: DrPizza
It'd be pretty easy to electrically bypass the requirement that the clutch be pushed in for the car to start... but then, the car would need to be parked in neutral (out of gear): definitely not a smart thing to do unless it's on a very level surface. There would be too much product liability, as someone would eventually get injured (and it wouldn't take long), when some moron remote starts the car while it's in gear. Anyone with half a brain could adapt a remote starter to a standard.... however, anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that it would be stupid to do so.

The best situation for a standard would be to have a remote that would recognize when the car is in gear and not start it in that situation...

Umm... How do you start a car that is in gear? Do you guys have some uberpowerful starter motors that will power the car as well as the engine?

Edit: I guess the car would roll if you have it parked on a hill.

The starter will move the car well enough. WHen I crashed my car into a pole, it wouldn't start. The tow truck driver backed it up by cranking the starter in reverse.

I thought about getting remote start but it involves disabling like 3 safety features. It's too much trouble.

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: DrPizza
It'd be pretty easy to electrically bypass the requirement that the clutch be pushed in for the car to start... but then, the car would need to be parked in neutral (out of gear): definitely not a smart thing to do unless it's on a very level surface. There would be too much product liability, as someone would eventually get injured (and it wouldn't take long), when some moron remote starts the car while it's in gear. Anyone with half a brain could adapt a remote starter to a standard.... however, anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that it would be stupid to do so.

The best situation for a standard would be to have a remote that would recognize when the car is in gear and not start it in that situation...

Umm... How do you start a car that is in gear? Do you guys have some uberpowerful starter motors that will power the car as well as the engine?

Edit: I guess the car would roll if you have it parked on a hill.

how do you start a car that's in gear? put your foot down on the clutch poot your foot down on the brake and start it =P

Does the remote starter depress the clutch pedal?

it's just a switch, any competent alarm shop can bypass it

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: DrPizza
It'd be pretty easy to electrically bypass the requirement that the clutch be pushed in for the car to start... but then, the car would need to be parked in neutral (out of gear): definitely not a smart thing to do unless it's on a very level surface. There would be too much product liability, as someone would eventually get injured (and it wouldn't take long), when some moron remote starts the car while it's in gear. Anyone with half a brain could adapt a remote starter to a standard.... however, anyone with a quarter of a brain knows that it would be stupid to do so.

The best situation for a standard would be to have a remote that would recognize when the car is in gear and not start it in that situation...

Umm... How do you start a car that is in gear? Do you guys have some uberpowerful starter motors that will power the car as well as the engine?

Edit: I guess the car would roll if you have it parked on a hill.

how do you start a car that's in gear? put your foot down on the clutch poot your foot down on the brake and start it =P

Does the remote starter depress the clutch pedal?

it's just a switch, any competent alarm shop can bypass it

What I'm saying is that a car won't remote start in gear unless it's on a hill, and even then, I don't know. Shouldn't it stall? For Christ sake, read before you reply.

 

[Ns1]

....

 

[slikmunks]

my friend has a remote starter on his 5 speed, but he parks it in neutral and makes full use of his parking brake. It has a system of solenoids and switches that trip the neutral switch (neutral switch is the same as having the clutch down when you start the car) and start the car, as long as it's in neutral.