Would you agree on the most basic set of definitions for a Sports Car?
Sufficient Horsepower and Handling
imo the 3-series satisfy this two criteria.
Would you agree on the most basic set of definitions for a Sports Car?
Sufficient Horsepower and Handling
imo the 3-series satisfy this two criteria.
hehe... i believe my school also participated in it too. but our's is not for race or MPH, it's for MPG. I was told it got up to 100mpg in the Michigan race (not sure did it actually complete the whole course though).
http://www.calstatela.edu/orgs/autoengineers/
the one on the far left is the one I am talking about, but that's the old design, I am not sure what they are up to now.
Our 2006 Sales Video: (if you're only going to watch one, watch this one)
2006 Sales Video (54MB .mpg)
Older Sales Video from the year before last: (this car is ugly IMHO)
Hi Rez (30MB .wmv)
Medium Rez (11MB .wmv)
Low Rez (4.6MB .wmv)
Time Lapse of Older Car Assembly (the ugly one)
Low Rez (5.5MB .wmv)
Hi Rez (30MB .wmv)
Don't worry about bandwidth, we don't have a quota.
2006 Sales Video (54MB .mpg)
Older Sales Video from the year before last: (this car is ugly IMHO)
Hi Rez (30MB .wmv)
Medium Rez (11MB .wmv)
Low Rez (4.6MB .wmv)
Time Lapse of Older Car Assembly (the ugly one)
Low Rez (5.5MB .wmv)
Hi Rez (30MB .wmv)
Don't worry about bandwidth, we don't have a quota.
So...Integra Type R, Mini Cooper-S, Neon SRT-4...are sports cars?
Many cars fulfill these criteria and are further subdivided among sports cars, sport sedans, sporty coupes, GTs, pony cars, supercars, and so forth.
hehe, I watched the Older Sales one.... the video is nicely composed and formated.
but the car... looks very philiac
The Steering wheel looks cool though.and holy oversteer
Somehow I can't load the New Sales vid though....
edit: ah, problem solved, it doesn't streaming right, but right-click, download, and it played fine.
so what's your's?
ITR is very well a sports car in my book. and Mini S and Neon SRT-4 are "better" sporty car. (relative to "lesser" onle like celica, tiburon, scion tC)
Originally posted by: andylawcc
hehe, I watched the Older Sales one.... the video is nicely composed and formated.
but the car... looks very philiac
and holy oversteer
Somehow I can't load the New Sales vid though....
I know... like I said, it's ugly. The oversteer was a suspension tuning issue, that was a first iteration test drive. It doesn't do that on its own anymore, but it has enough power that you can always induce oversteer. WATCH THE TOP ONE.
What's my...what?
...recommendation?
Of sports cars, I've had the 924 and the S2000 and have driven some of the others. I would recommend the S2000.
However, the Miata is probably the most pure sports car out there, so if you're going for sports car feel, it's tough to beat it on value.
I just did. somehow I like how the second one (older one) is done.... despite the corniness ("Are you ready to race? ..... WE ARE").
anyways, so why does the old one has such a loong "hood." Looks like a concealed chainsaw.
It's not my definition. Sports cars existed decades before I did
Start with names like Austin-Healy, MG, and Triumph, focus on the 60's and 70's, and look at the cars (but for the love of God, don't buy any). The further away a car moves away from that thinking, the less likely it is to be a sports car.
That car was a carbon fiber monocoque. It did not have a metal frame in front of the roll hoop at all. As a result, the CG is substantially shifted to the rear of the car. Suspension points were shifted rearward to compensate for this, resulting in the ridiculously long looking nose. Also, we are required to have an impact attenuator in front of the pedal box, that adds to the length.
Its sad that only 2 people brought up the S2000.
Thats should easily be your choice for a RWD under $15K.
You can find plenty of them for around $15K if you look hard enough.
Thats should easily be your choice for a RWD under $15K.
You can find plenty of them for around $15K if you look hard enough.
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About 1963 in San Diego a guy in the meighborhood toolsed around in a Morgan
He always said the he was looking for a Morgan 3-Wheeler to buy as well.
His 'hobby' was to hand build 5-string Banjos . . from scratch.
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WHy would you take a corner at 60 in a vette on the open road? Do you like to put everyone else at risk?
In the 15K range, you'll be looking at 2001-2002 S2000s with about 65-75K miles. Powertrain wise you should be fine with regular maintenance as long as the car was well taken care of (oil changes, transmission and diff fluid changes every year).
The one big area can be the clutch as it's a PITA to change it. At that mileage you'll have to expect a clutch change in the next year or so if the car was well driven, or ready for a change if not very well driven. Stock clutch + labor will probably be $1000-1200.
Ideally you'll find one with the clutch just recently changed.
The other area of $$ is tires - the stock S02s get about 12-15K miles of life. The newer S2000s use RE-050s which last a bit longer. You can fine some good tires for cheaper than OEM (Falken RT-615, Kuhmo MX, etc) but you'll still only get about 12-15K miles on them.
Find one driven by an enthusiast who knows how to take care of his cars and you should be fine. Unfortunately used S2000 prices have gotten low enough that there are some young kids who just beat on the cars, trash the transmissions, and spin out into the gutter - so avoid those cars.
It's very responsive and as neutral as a street car gets so if you're coming from a FWD car, brush up on your driving technique to avoid spinning.
I agree, but I think andy was being a little sarcastic. Very few cars can take corners at 60. I've taken an off ramp at 60 and I feel that I was breaking the threshold of my car. I would never drive my car on the threshold of losing control on a public road. There's a time and place for that and it's a track.
If you can't afford to go to a track then maybe you shouldn't be playing the sports car game.
However, having a sports car to make driving to work a little more fun should be a good reason to buy a sports car.
As many have state an S2000 is wicked fun. But not a good general useage car IMO. Mainly for it's lack of storage. I don't care about passengers personally, but I like to be able to haul lots of stuff that normal people would carry around (luggage, computers, monitors, occaisonal home depot stuff).
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