YACAT - Single 10" sub or two 8" subs?

[RaiderJ]

Alright, looking for some mostly subjective advice here. I have a 2005 GMC Canyon crew cab, so my options for subs are limited since I'd like to keep my backseat.

My first option would be an MTX Thunderform with a single 10" sub that can hand 225/450 watts (RMS/Peak). I don't have any experience with MTX stuff, but my guess is that it is of decent quality.

My other option would be a custom box that holds two 8" subs. I'd have to wire a couple 2 ohm subs in series in order for this to work with my amp.

Couple questions:

* Would putting two subs in series be acceptable if they shared the same space? How about if they were in separate spaces?

* Are MTX enclosures worth the money?

* Other options I'm overlooking?

 

[Saga]

I have a 2005 GMC Canyon extended cab. I built a custom box for the rear and enclosed it with two 12.1 Kappas and a 611a Infinity mono block.

The reality is that you should design your box around the subs, not your subs around the box.. and if you buy that prefab box you will be extremely limited on your options.

All in all, I would go with one 10. The Canyon design is very solid and it blocks outside noise very well.

 

[jtvang125]

What is the lowest ohm your amp can handle?

 

[RaiderJ]

It can do 500W RMS @ 4 ohm.

 

[Saga]

Went and snapped two pictures for you - excuse the blizzard in the background, we have some nasty weather at the moment.

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[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: Izusaga
Went and snapped two pictures for you - excuse the blizzard in the background, we have some nasty weather at the moment.

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That's a pretty loud setup I imagine! I can't really go with anything that custom, as I still want to keep my back seats.

 

[Saga]

Before I installed this I had a single prefab 1.5cubic box and a 12" pioneer 400w, running off a 350w Rockford mono. It was, in my opinion, plenty loud - and left me with one back seat.

The only problem is when we went grocery shopping the girl still used the excuse "you still have room" to make us take the truck. She just dislikes driving in general, I guess, and I don't like driving a 2006 Altima very much, no get up and go on them.

What you see is the result of my solution to the grocery shopping problem. Now we take the car.

 

[jtvang125]

Originally posted by: RaiderJ
It can do 500W RMS @ 4 ohm.

I recommend two of these Diamond Audio D308D. Not sure of the dimensions of your box but you can check out the parameters of the sub here.

Excellent subs for the price. MTXs and pioneer subs can't touch these in terms of SQ and output.

 

[RaiderJ]

I don't have a box yet... but I've seen a couple that take two 8" subs with about 0.33 ft^3 of space for each. I'm leaning towards a 2x8" setup since the box will fit completely underneath the seat.

Running 2 8" subs in series to match the 4 ohm impedance will work just fine I assume?

 

[Preyhunter]

What about building a custom fiberglass box? You could build it around any sub(s) you want in a shape that will allow you to keep the seats.

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: Preyhunter
What about building a custom fiberglass box? You could build it around any sub(s) you want in a shape that will allow you to keep the seats.

I don't really have the resources to do something like that, but I could get one made for a decent price locally I think (or just as cheap as getting one shipped to Alaska).

 

[glen]

To compare subs, you basically need to know which moves more air, or has the potential to move the most air.
This is surface area x stroke.

 

[bignateyk]

I always go for two 8" subs at lunch over the 10" because the difference in price is only like a dollar.

 

[Preyhunter]

Meh, I'd go with the Thunderform off ebay for $225. You could always swap out the sub for a different 10" if you wanted. If you wanted to do more than one 10", then I'd consider going fiberglass. You're TYPICALLY (for subwoofer spec nazis) gonna get closer to 20Hz with a 10" than you will with 8".

 

[Howard]

2 8"s can go louder for the same amount of power, depending on enclosure size driver.

 

[ryan256]

What are you going for?? Loud boom or lower frequencies that are a bit more musical??
If boom is what you're after go for two 8" subs. Two 8"s can move much more air than one 10". If however you want something a bit more musical sounding I'd recommend a single 10" or if you can fit it 12". They can go lower than 8" subs.
Me? I have a single Infinity 10" in a custom enclosure powered by a 200 watt Rockford Fosgate. It sounds great. Custom boxes are NOT hard to build. If you'd like some help PM me the dimensions you have to work with.

 

[RaiderJ]

Probably musical quality. I have some good 6.5" components for the front door, and coax 6.5" for the rear doors. So something to fill in the sub 80Hz range to keep things balanced. I can't do a 12" without lifting the seats or something crazy like that.

 

[ryan256]

Originally posted by: Preyhunter
What about building a custom fiberglass box? You could build it around any sub(s) you want in a shape that will allow you to keep the seats.

True you can make it any shape you want. But keeping it the correct amount of cubic feet would be difficult. Also some shapes just don't work well for good sound.

 

[Nutdotnet]

I'd go with 1 10" DVC sub, with either 4ohm or 2ohm voice coils.

See what your amp can truly can handle. Any monoblock amp worth it's salt can at least go down to 2ohms. If it can, wire a 4ohm DVC in parallel and be amazed.

 

[50cent1228]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
I'd go with 1 10" DVC sub, with either 4ohm or 2ohm voice coils.

See what your amp can truly can handle. Any monoblock amp worth it's salt can at least go down to 2ohms. If it can, wire a 4ohm DVC in parallel and be amazed.

i totally agree, this one is great:linky
awesome sub and awesome quality for the price