YACAT : Midrange/Midbass, or 2/3way?

[Drakkon]

Picked up some front component speakers (CDT CL 61's) and am trying to figure out what could be the best solution for the rear speakers (and im NOT going to be putting a sub in as theres no room already and i dont want to be rattled to death). The rear speakers are only 6 1/2" and i want to keep it looking stock.

I'm thinking midbass (CDT CL6 or similar) would be better as the front components would provide all the highs/mids that i need. although the typical 2/3 ways would be much cheaper although im not sure if id want to skimp out going that route.

Ideas? suggestions? Thanks

 

[shortspanishguy]

why not just ditch rear fill all together? I did years ago and I prefer it now.

My mids play down to 63 hz. When midbass is coming from behind it does not sound right to me.

edit: BTW, I used to have the CDT HD series and I loved them

 

[Drakkon]

Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
why not just ditch rear fill all together? I did years ago and I prefer it now.

My mids play down to 63 hz. When midbass is coming from behind it does not sound right to me.

edit: BTW, I used to have the CDT HD series and I loved them

I've heard that (removing the rears completely to sound better) and wasnt sure. I hear of people doing that and then having to buy a sub or something to replace because they find themselves dissapointed with the ammount of bass that components only give. I'm deifnately going to give this idea a shot first though (as i boguht the ampy/compoents already and havent bought the rears yet)

 

[RagingBITCH]

If you take out the rear fill you do need a sub to compensate for the lack of any true low end. In your case it's probably not an option, so you should have some rear fill, otherwise you'd just be wasting your time. Have you thought of using a space saver woofer, like a Basslink? I currently have one in my car - it's not "annoy the car next to you window shattering bass", but it more than hits on every level that I need it to.

 

[Muadib]

What car do you have, Drakkon? I agree with RB. You won't be happy without some rear fill. Some sort of sub will be a must with the speakers you've chosen.

 

[Aquila76]

I have JL XR525CSi components in my car. I had only the fronts installed for quite a while, and it sounded fine (good reproduction of high & lows). It all depends on speaker position (the lower the woofer, the lower it 'sounds') and personal preference. I would say to try it out and see what you think. Adding rear speakers is usually far easier than door speakers anyway, so it could be a quick project later if you decide it's not enough.


Myself, I got bored one day and picked up a second pair of JL's and added my old dual JL 12w6 sub box and it's crazy in there now. I have soundproofing all around my car/trunk, so not much noise leaks out/in. I like being all stealthy/sleeper.

 

[Drakkon]

Originally posted by: Muadib
What car do you have, Drakkon? I agree with RB. You won't be happy without some rear fill. Some sort of sub will be a must with the speakers you've chosen.

I have a club cab truck (2005 dodge dakota)...thus really its only the front cabin and pretty small at that so im thinking more and more the front might be enough. The mids on the front are down really low (almsot to the kickbox) and the tweeters are going to be placed really near the a-pillar

 

[Aquila76]

Originally posted by: Drakkon

Originally posted by: Muadib
What car do you have, Drakkon? I agree with RB. You won't be happy without some rear fill. Some sort of sub will be a must with the speakers you've chosen.

I have a club cab truck (2005 dodge dakota)...thus really its only the front cabin and pretty small at that so im thinking more and more the front might be enough. The mids on the front are down really low (almsot to the kickbox) and the tweeters are going to be placed really near the a-pillar

I wouldn't even bother with rears then. My cousin has a set of (I think) Infinity components in the doors of his Tacoma truck and they're plenty. There's just not enough space in the cab to perceptibly lose any sound quality, volume or frequency wise.

 

[Saint Nick]

calling YOyoYO... i'd get midbass for the rear deck, three ways, then midrange up front, three ways.

 

[jtvang125]

Originally posted by: Drakkon

Originally posted by: Muadib
What car do you have, Drakkon? I agree with RB. You won't be happy without some rear fill. Some sort of sub will be a must with the speakers you've chosen.

I have a club cab truck (2005 dodge dakota)...thus really its only the front cabin and pretty small at that so im thinking more and more the front might be enough. The mids on the front are down really low (almsot to the kickbox) and the tweeters are going to be placed really near the a-pillar

No rear fill needed then but a small sub for the low end would definitely help out the sound.

I just replaced the front and rear speakers in my car too. I went with Focal 6.5" components up front and Boston Acoutics 6.5" 2ways in the rear. The BAs gave good highs but was really weak in the mid and midbass. The Focals on the other hand are excellent, nice highs, good mids and great midbass (rattles my doors). I'm still looking into a sub solution to bring in the lows.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Aquila76

Originally posted by: Drakkon

Originally posted by: Muadib
What car do you have, Drakkon? I agree with RB. You won't be happy without some rear fill. Some sort of sub will be a must with the speakers you've chosen.

I have a club cab truck (2005 dodge dakota)...thus really its only the front cabin and pretty small at that so im thinking more and more the front might be enough. The mids on the front are down really low (almsot to the kickbox) and the tweeters are going to be placed really near the a-pillar

I wouldn't even bother with rears then. My cousin has a set of (I think) Infinity components in the doors of his Tacoma truck and they're plenty. There's just not enough space in the cab to perceptibly lose any sound quality, volume or frequency wise.

I agree, no rear is needed, but without a sub I still don't think you will be happy. It should sound lighyears better than stock though. Be sure to let us know what you decided on.

 

[Aquila76]

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Aquila76

Originally posted by: Drakkon

Originally posted by: Muadib
What car do you have, Drakkon? I agree with RB. You won't be happy without some rear fill. Some sort of sub will be a must with the speakers you've chosen.

I have a club cab truck (2005 dodge dakota)...thus really its only the front cabin and pretty small at that so im thinking more and more the front might be enough. The mids on the front are down really low (almsot to the kickbox) and the tweeters are going to be placed really near the a-pillar

I wouldn't even bother with rears then. My cousin has a set of (I think) Infinity components in the doors of his Tacoma truck and they're plenty. There's just not enough space in the cab to perceptibly lose any sound quality, volume or frequency wise.

I agree, no rear is needed, but without a sub I still don't think you will be happy. It should sound lighyears better than stock though. Be sure to let us know what you decided on.

Defeinitely a low powered sub can handle the lows better than any speaker. I wouldn't go crazy with one though, because you're likely gonna be sitting on top of the sub in that cab. You don't want your balls slapping into your guts as you drive. While that makes for a good excuse to make the cop laugh out of giving you a ticket, you will have a full understanding of the term 'numbnuts'.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Aquila76

Originally posted by: Muadib

Originally posted by: Aquila76

Originally posted by: Drakkon

Originally posted by: Muadib
What car do you have, Drakkon? I agree with RB. You won't be happy without some rear fill. Some sort of sub will be a must with the speakers you've chosen.

I have a club cab truck (2005 dodge dakota)...thus really its only the front cabin and pretty small at that so im thinking more and more the front might be enough. The mids on the front are down really low (almsot to the kickbox) and the tweeters are going to be placed really near the a-pillar

I wouldn't even bother with rears then. My cousin has a set of (I think) Infinity components in the doors of his Tacoma truck and they're plenty. There's just not enough space in the cab to perceptibly lose any sound quality, volume or frequency wise.

I agree, no rear is needed, but without a sub I still don't think you will be happy. It should sound lighyears better than stock though. Be sure to let us know what you decided on.

Defeinitely a low powered sub can handle the lows better than any speaker. I wouldn't go crazy with one though, because you're likely gonna be sitting on top of the sub in that cab. You don't want your balls slapping into your guts as you drive. While that makes for a good excuse to make the cop laugh out of giving you a ticket, you will have a full understanding of the term 'numbnuts'.

Only if you go nuts with the sub. His problem will be fitting a sub, and keeping it stealth. There is not much room to work with in a club cab.

 

[JustinGoodie]

it kinda depends on the layout of what's behind the seats and how much room you really have... I would suggest a bazooka tube if you have the room, otherwise, a small amp and an 8 or 10 inch sub. you won't need a lot of power, but i wouldn't skimp on the quality of the sub; now you don't need anything high-end, but don't get entry level either. then you'll want a fairly small class D sub amp; i say class D because they're more efficient and run cooler which will be important because you're likely gonna have to mount it somewhere with little clearance and airflow around it. furthermore, if there are already spots for 6.5's you might be able to enlarge the holes and put some 8's in there...

ideally, since you don't need to move a lot of air, i would go with a pair of good 8's. a 6.5" speaker can't quite produce low enough bass to make up for a sub, but if you must go with 6.5's you'll definitely need them in some type of enclosure to get decent sound out of them.