YACarAudioT: Car audio heads, what do you think of this new system?

[Ns1]

So after getting jacked, amps gettin blown, and speakers dying, I've decided to update my car sound system. Car is a '97 Prelude


Currently running off a Alpine CDA-9855.Only my current driver side speaker works lol

Fronts:
JL Audio XR650-CSi
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=11421

Rears
JL Audio TR690-TXI
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=11402
*note - rears will be turned off when I'm driving by myself/with the gf, I drive around alot of people though so I'd like to have rear speakers

Amp:
JL Audio 500-5
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=11727

Sub:
Old JL 12w3

What do you guys think? Will have somebody else install it, and probably get another yellowtop while I'm at it (fvcking theives jacked my last one!)


Cost will be about 1k for parts + labor

 

[EightySix Four]

Not to bad of a system. JL makes some good speakers.


I personally have an all infinity kappa perfect system, but I'm an audio quality over sheer volume person.

 

[nboy22]

It kind of depends on what you're into, SQ or SPL.... It will be a pretty nice system but it probably won't be insanely loud either, I would think it'd have more sound quality than anything. but then again it depends on a lot of things like what you're boxing the sub with and what your cabin gain is on your truck or car.

 

[Aharami]

care to give a review of the 9855? thinking of getting that or the 9853 for gf's tC along with my infinity sub and RF amp

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Aharami
care to give a review of the 9855? thinking of getting that or the 9853 for gf's tC along with my infinity sub and RF amp

I love Alpine. But I gotta say, that fvcking glide stick button sht is weak. I would SO rather have the old top of the line Alpine HU over the new stuff. Other than that though, Alpine is great Time correction > *


Re: the other comments
It's just a small system to get me by. I don't need to get extra loud, hence the choice in the combo amp.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

ah god don't remind me about car audio, i've gone so far deep into that hobby and I"m tempted to go back again. as for your setup, looks pretty good and would make for an excellent budget/starter system.

the most important thing, now that you have decent components, is to get them installed correctly. what does this mean? i mean mount your midbasses to solid mdf baffles that are attached securely to the doors. soundproof your doors with sound deadener and at least make sure to put some directly behind the speakers. run your own wires, preferably 12-16 guage. Use 4 guage or lower wire and choose good grounding locations for your grounds. Also make sure all of your connections are crimped or soldered carefully. do it right the first time, and you won't have to rip your car apart again and again like I did.

 

[EightySix Four]

what do you guys think of mine

2 6.5inch Inifinity Kappa Perfect component sets (4 doors (4 mid's and 4 tweets))
2 12inch Infinity Kappa Perfect 12DVQ subs
Infinity Reference REF1211A
Infinity Reference REF7541A

In a 2001 Ford F-150 Lariat Crew Cab, the subs are going to be a blowthrough from the bed to the cab.

1 guage power from the batter, 1 guage grounding, 2 farad cap, Kenwood head unit, 12 guage speaker wire.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
ah god don't remind me about car audio, i've gone so far deep into that hobby and I"m tempted to go back again. as for your setup, looks pretty good and would make for an excellent budget/starter system.

the most important thing, now that you have decent components, is to get them installed correctly. what does this mean? i mean mount your midbasses to solid mdf baffles that are attached securely to the doors. soundproof your doors with sound deadener and at least make sure to put some directly behind the speakers. run your own wires, preferably 12-16 guage. Use 4 guage or lower wire and choose good grounding locations for your grounds. Also make sure all of your connections are crimped or soldered carefully. do it right the first time, and you won't have to rip your car apart again and again like I did.

Your talkin about "correct" install and saying to put the components in the door??

Otherwise, thats a very nice system, those XR's sound very, very good.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: Aharami
care to give a review of the 9855? thinking of getting that or the 9853 for gf's tC along with my infinity sub and RF amp

I love Alpine. But I gotta say, that fvcking glide stick button sht is weak. I would SO rather have the old top of the line Alpine HU over the new stuff. Other than that though, Alpine is great Time correction > *


Re: the other comments
It's just a small system to get me by. I don't need to get extra loud, hence the choice in the combo amp.

yea ive been hearing bad reviews about the glidetouch. but the thing is, its either alpine or pioneer (the only 2 i have experience with and think are good) and the current pioneer DEH-80MP is fugly as hell. I dunno what Pioneer was thinking when they designed that HU

 

[Dulanic]

Originally posted by: crazySOB297
Not to bad of a system. JL makes some good speakers.


I personally have an all infinity kappa perfect system, but I'm an audio quality over sheer volume person.

Hell I wouldnt say that cant put out volume, I have Infinity Kappa Perfect 6 1/2" Components in the front, and 5 1/4" in the rear with a 12" kappa DVQ sub, and it is insanely loud if I want it to be....

Oh ya Kicker 700.5 Amp

 

[EightySix Four]

Originally posted by: Dulanic

Originally posted by: crazySOB297
Not to bad of a system. JL makes some good speakers.


I personally have an all infinity kappa perfect system, but I'm an audio quality over sheer volume person.

Hell I wouldnt say that cant put out volume, I have Infinity Kappa Perfect 6 1/2" Components in the front, and 5 1/4" in the rear with a 12" kappa DVQ sub, and it is insanely loud if I want it to be....

Oh ya Kicker 700.5 Amp

What kinda vehicle?

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: Aharami
care to give a review of the 9855? thinking of getting that or the 9853 for gf's tC along with my infinity sub and RF amp

I love Alpine. But I gotta say, that fvcking glide stick button sht is weak. I would SO rather have the old top of the line Alpine HU over the new stuff. Other than that though, Alpine is great Time correction > *


Re: the other comments
It's just a small system to get me by. I don't need to get extra loud, hence the choice in the combo amp.

yea ive been hearing bad reviews about the glidetouch. but the thing is, its either alpine or pioneer (the only 2 i have experience with and think are good) and the current pioneer DEH-80MP is fugly as hell. I dunno what Pioneer was thinking when they designed that HU

Eclipse > all

/end discussion

 

[EightySix Four]

I actually don't much care for the eclipse head units... I don't care for the looks all that much... but then again I don't care for any headunits looks that much... they're all ugly in my head...

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: Aharami
care to give a review of the 9855? thinking of getting that or the 9853 for gf's tC along with my infinity sub and RF amp

I love Alpine. But I gotta say, that fvcking glide stick button sht is weak. I would SO rather have the old top of the line Alpine HU over the new stuff. Other than that though, Alpine is great Time correction > *


Re: the other comments
It's just a small system to get me by. I don't need to get extra loud, hence the choice in the combo amp.

yea ive been hearing bad reviews about the glidetouch. but the thing is, its either alpine or pioneer (the only 2 i have experience with and think are good) and the current pioneer DEH-80MP is fugly as hell. I dunno what Pioneer was thinking when they designed that HU

pioneer is all show imho. poor build quality as well. alpine > pioneer

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
ah god don't remind me about car audio, i've gone so far deep into that hobby and I"m tempted to go back again. as for your setup, looks pretty good and would make for an excellent budget/starter system.

the most important thing, now that you have decent components, is to get them installed correctly. what does this mean? i mean mount your midbasses to solid mdf baffles that are attached securely to the doors. soundproof your doors with sound deadener and at least make sure to put some directly behind the speakers. run your own wires, preferably 12-16 guage. Use 4 guage or lower wire and choose good grounding locations for your grounds. Also make sure all of your connections are crimped or soldered carefully. do it right the first time, and you won't have to rip your car apart again and again like I did.

Your talkin about "correct" install and saying to put the components in the door??

Otherwise, thats a very nice system, those XR's sound very, very good.

well I'm assuming this guy is a car audio noob so recommending kickpanels ain't the brightest idea now is it? You can still get decent driver-side imaging with time correction if you have good off-axis speakers (which I assume the JL's are). Mount the mids in the doors properly and put the tweets in the a-pillars crossfiring off-axis. Adjust time correction properly and you have good imaging for the driver, and i'd bet this guy would be more than happy with that since he's not competing.

i've had kickpanels and they introduce a host of other issues like stage height, which I'm sure this guy wouldn't want to get into. so before you run your mouth again i'd suggest you really analyze what this guy actually needs.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis

Originally posted by: Aharami
care to give a review of the 9855? thinking of getting that or the 9853 for gf's tC along with my infinity sub and RF amp

I love Alpine. But I gotta say, that fvcking glide stick button sht is weak. I would SO rather have the old top of the line Alpine HU over the new stuff. Other than that though, Alpine is great Time correction > *


Re: the other comments
It's just a small system to get me by. I don't need to get extra loud, hence the choice in the combo amp.

yea ive been hearing bad reviews about the glidetouch. but the thing is, its either alpine or pioneer (the only 2 i have experience with and think are good) and the current pioneer DEH-80MP is fugly as hell. I dunno what Pioneer was thinking when they designed that HU

Eclipse > all

/end discussion

another useless point. yes Eclipse HU's are damn good, but your not likely to notice the difference between a higher end Alpine (say 9835) and a good eclipse other than the higher preout voltage. the most important thing is to get a clean signal from the deck out to your amps. in car audio, more than 80% of the SQ is going to come from how well you install the equipment you have.

people have won SQ tournaments with stock VW speakers, so believe me it's all about the tuning and the install moreso than the equipment because the car is such a non-ideal environment for sound.

 

[EightySix Four]

Any tips for installing my infinity's?

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
ah god don't remind me about car audio, i've gone so far deep into that hobby and I"m tempted to go back again. as for your setup, looks pretty good and would make for an excellent budget/starter system.

the most important thing, now that you have decent components, is to get them installed correctly. what does this mean? i mean mount your midbasses to solid mdf baffles that are attached securely to the doors. soundproof your doors with sound deadener and at least make sure to put some directly behind the speakers. run your own wires, preferably 12-16 guage. Use 4 guage or lower wire and choose good grounding locations for your grounds. Also make sure all of your connections are crimped or soldered carefully. do it right the first time, and you won't have to rip your car apart again and again like I did.

Your talkin about "correct" install and saying to put the components in the door??

Otherwise, thats a very nice system, those XR's sound very, very good.

well I'm assuming this guy is a car audio noob so recommending kickpanels ain't the brightest idea now is it? You can still get decent driver-side imaging with time correction if you have good off-axis speakers (which I assume the JL's are). Mount the mids in the doors properly and put the tweets in the a-pillars crossfiring off-axis. Adjust time correction properly and you have good imaging for the driver, and i'd bet this guy would be more than happy with that since he's not competing.

i've had kickpanels and they introduce a host of other issues like stage height, which I'm sure this guy wouldn't want to get into. so before you run your mouth again i'd suggest you really analyze what this guy actually needs.

hehe so true, my friend has kick pannels in his car and the stage height is low, we worked that with some horns and now its better, her running 2 8in + horns in the kick pannels and hes running a 12in xtant sub, fronts are mbquarts, it sounds good, an alpine HU, an apline amp for the sub and something else for the 8s, he won SQ in his class at the last thing he went to

my car will soon have this installed, 4x memphis Mclass 4in in the doors and a 12in Memphis sub (forgot model) in the back, speakers running of a 4x50 xtant amp and the sub off a 300w nakamichi sub amp, Pioneer primer HU, and a 1 farad cap

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
ah god don't remind me about car audio, i've gone so far deep into that hobby and I"m tempted to go back again. as for your setup, looks pretty good and would make for an excellent budget/starter system.

the most important thing, now that you have decent components, is to get them installed correctly. what does this mean? i mean mount your midbasses to solid mdf baffles that are attached securely to the doors. soundproof your doors with sound deadener and at least make sure to put some directly behind the speakers. run your own wires, preferably 12-16 guage. Use 4 guage or lower wire and choose good grounding locations for your grounds. Also make sure all of your connections are crimped or soldered carefully. do it right the first time, and you won't have to rip your car apart again and again like I did.

Your talkin about "correct" install and saying to put the components in the door??

Otherwise, thats a very nice system, those XR's sound very, very good.

well I'm assuming this guy is a car audio noob so recommending kickpanels ain't the brightest idea now is it? You can still get decent driver-side imaging with time correction if you have good off-axis speakers (which I assume the JL's are). Mount the mids in the doors properly and put the tweets in the a-pillars crossfiring off-axis. Adjust time correction properly and you have good imaging for the driver, and i'd bet this guy would be more than happy with that since he's not competing.

i've had kickpanels and they introduce a host of other issues like stage height, which I'm sure this guy wouldn't want to get into. so before you run your mouth again i'd suggest you really analyze what this guy actually needs.

HAHAH!
What happened, did I touch a soft spot?

Yeah, kicks are SOOO difficult, but tweets in the A pillars are a walk in the park arent they.
And time correction sucks for everyone but 1 person.

Ok dude, whatever. Keep sharing your..."advice"...its comical to me.

 

[shortspanishguy]

If I were you I would ditch putting in rear speakers to begin with and put more $$ into your front stage. I stopped using rear fill 2 years ago and I am happy that i did. I prefer to have the sound coming from the front. As a side note, my comps pick up @ 63 hz.

Here is my setup.

Eclipse 8053 - 8 volt preouts unbalanced/ 16 volt balanced
Alpine comps for front stage
Memphis Belle 1300D
Resonant Engineering XXX 15" - One of the flatest BL curdes on the market


One day I will pick up a Zapco amp and run balanced lines.

 

[Dulanic]

Originally posted by: crazySOB297

Originally posted by: Dulanic

Originally posted by: crazySOB297
Not to bad of a system. JL makes some good speakers.


I personally have an all infinity kappa perfect system, but I'm an audio quality over sheer volume person.

Hell I wouldnt say that cant put out volume, I have Infinity Kappa Perfect 6 1/2" Components in the front, and 5 1/4" in the rear with a 12" kappa DVQ sub, and it is insanely loud if I want it to be....

Oh ya Kicker 700.5 Amp

What kinda vehicle?

Scion tC.

Here are some pics of the sub/amp installed.... tho it's pics of my previous amp install... which was replaced because the Infinity Amp wasn't strong enough.

http://img33.exs.cx/img33/1231/DSCF207.jpg
http://img33.exs.cx/img33/4390/DSCF208.jpg