YABfCT: top 10 omitted 'truths'

May 10, 2001
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The top 10 truths omitted from Bowling for Columbine

1.) Willie Hortons use in Bush advertisement is faked to spread fear of racism.
a. The advertisement for the bush presidency is spliced with images from another election add, not involved with the bush camp.
b. The subtitle in the add is added by the movie editors.
2.) NRAs reaction to columbine was not shown, distorting their true response.
a. from my cold dead hands not said at either speech
b. Speech 10 days after columbine shooting was an annual members voting meting, required by law for NF Profit groups, date not changeable by law.
c. Hesstons speech is cut to change original meaning and sentence structure.
d. ALL other events where canceled by the NRA, out of respect.
3.) Timing and intent of Hesstons speech in Flint is distorted.
a. Flint speech was 8months, not 48 hours, after the school shooting.
b. Flint speech was not a gun-rally, but a political speech for Bush.
c. The highlighted website line is about Bill Clinton speaking on Today
4.) NRA is falsely connected to the KKK, fear of KKK is associated with the NRA.
a. NRA was founded 1871, by the NY legislature under union pressure.
b. U.S. Grant signed Klan & enforcement acts to send troupes to arrest KKK
c. After grant left the presidency he was elected president of the NRA.
d. NRA was essential in getting blacks guns in the 60s to protect from KKK
5.) Buell Michigans School shooting was actually foreseeable, and explainable
a. Child who committed shooting had earlier stabbed other students
b. The murderer was in a fight with the girl he killed the day before
c. His home was a hub of narcotics sales.
6.) American government connection to supporting terrorist Taliban is false.
a. The 245million received in Afghanistan was famine relief & land min removal from when the USSR was trying to take the country.
b. The aid was delivered as part of a UN humanitarian aid program.
7.) US homicide rates as compared to other countries are distorted.
a. All rates listed include self-defense and police shootings.
b. The US is 32 nd in per-capita homicides.
i. Rape is significantly higher in Canada and Australia.
ii. Burglary is significantly hither in the UK, Canada and Australia.
8.) The Purchases and Plaque are distortions to cause fear.
a. The foreigner purchase of ammo in Canada is illegal by Canadian law.
b. The plaque about a B-52 actually says it shot-down an enemy MIG.
9.) Bowling deceptively infers that Hesston is a racist.
a. Hesston marched with Marten Luther King
b. Hesstons response is edited, he actually said that racism causes violence.
10.)Bowlings point about media created fears leaves school shootings off the list.
a. Bowling makes a point about Distortions and Fear being used by media.
b. Bowling uses distortions about guns and fear of racism to sell itself.

Sources sighted: Google: Truth About Bowling
http://www.hardylaw.net/
http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20021119.html
http://www.andrewsullivan.com/main_article.php?artnum=20021208 http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/shooting/0422nra3.shtml http://www.freep.com/news/politics/zero18_20001018.htm http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBPrintItem.asp?ID=2960
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_cap
 

Wingznut

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Are you aware that Michael Moore is not anti-gun? From what I understand, he actually is a member of the NRA and owns guns.

The movie isn't even anti-gun. It just raises questions, and leaves it up to the viewer to think about them. At least that's the impression I got from it.


Why so many people get so charged up about this movie, is beyond me. It really wasn't that significant.
 

hjo3

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Are you aware that Michael Moore is not anti-gun? From what I understand, he actually is a member of the NRA and owns guns.
Proof?

Also, for the OP, welcome to last year.
 
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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Are you aware that Michael Moore is not anti-gun? From what I understand, he actually is a member of the NRA and owns guns.

The movie isn't even anti-gun. It just raises questions, and leaves it up to the viewer to think about them. At least that's the impression I got from it.


Why so many people get so charged up about this movie, is beyond me. It really wasn't that significant.

My point in #10 is that he uses the same distortion and fear tactics that he speaks out against to sell his movie.
 
May 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
Not what would qualify as a "proof" perhaps, but Wingznut's not alone on the NRA tidbit according to this page.
Being a member of the NRA doesn't mean he didn't distort it to look like it's a racist heartless organization.

 

poopaskoopa

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: poopaskoopa
Not what would qualify as a "proof" perhaps, but Wingznut's not alone on the NRA tidbit according to this page.
Being a member of the NRA doesn't mean he didn't distort it to look like it's a racist heartless organization.

Ok. I was responding to hjo3. I guess I could've quoted hjo3.
 

Ah yes, rehash the bowling for columbine flames.

Sounds great, bring the wife and kids.
 

hawkeye81x

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Ah yes, rehash the bowling for columbine flames.

Sounds great, bring the wife and kids.

Don't forget the fold-down chairs and lemonade.
 

Amorphus

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Originally posted by: hawkeye81x
Originally posted by: SampSon
Ah yes, rehash the bowling for columbine flames.

Sounds great, bring the wife and kids.

Don't forget the fold-down chairs and lemonade.

Proper decorum for ATOT is lawn chairs and popcorn, with :beer: optional. Duh.
 

XZeroII

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Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: hawkeye81x
Originally posted by: SampSon
Ah yes, rehash the bowling for columbine flames.

Sounds great, bring the wife and kids.

Don't forget the fold-down chairs and lemonade.

Proper decorum for ATOT is lawn chairs and popcorn, with :beer: optional. Duh.

It's popping right now. The laptop is setup outside next to the lawn chair and the :beer: is an arms-length away.
 
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Originally posted by: stnicralisk
It was all interesting but I wish there was more solid proof for each point.

I did sight sources; i guess that keeps anyone from defying the truth that Moore did nothing more than lie to everyone that watched his farcical comedy.
 
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Originally posted by: Amorphus
Originally posted by: hawkeye81x
Originally posted by: SampSon
Ah yes, rehash the bowling for columbine flames.

Sounds great, bring the wife and kids.

Don't forget the fold-down chairs and lemonade.

Proper decorum for ATOT is lawn chairs and popcorn, with :beer: optional. Duh.

Optional? Optional? Sh!t, I leave for a day and you wankers are doing everything half-assed.

*rolls out the keg*

- M4H